The book of James and the LRC

[Cassidy]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

There is no doubt that the Lord can speak through people. But the idea that you cannot question or object to or refuse to follow or disagree with someone's speaking because "it is the feeling of the Body" is not scriptural. People could and did disagree with Paul even though the Lord spoke through him. People disagreed and questioned Peter before deciding that the Lord had spoken through him. This practice is clearly an ugly blemish.

WL rejects the book of James, many of the Psalms, belittles Proverbs and Job. What hypocrisy to talk about "keeping the oneness of the Body" when you treat the word of God disrespectfully. Clearly the "feeling of the Body" is that these books are part of the Holy Word of God.

Yes, but you were implying that the Lord would not use a select "few" and we have biblical examples of where He does just that. My point is that you have to allow for that and not reject God's arrangement of speaking through a "few".

I am not sure what the problem you are having about the book of James. You seem to suggest that just because something is in the Bible that it is God's word. Was Peter's objection to the Lord Jesus going to the cross God's word? Was Satan's "Hath God said?" God's words? Was the counsel of Job's friends God's words?

No, of course they were not.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Cassidy

Yes, but you were implying that the Lord would not use a select "few" and we have biblical examples of where He does just that. My point is that you have to allow for that and not reject God's arrangement of speaking through a "few".

I am not sure what the problem you are having about the book of James. You seem to suggest that just because something is in the Bible that it is God's word. Was Peter's objection to the Lord Jesus going to the cross God's word? Was Satan's "Hath God said?" God's words? Was the council of Job's friends God's words?

No, of course they were not.

There was no implication. There is a context here on this thread that when we say "the feeling of the Body" we are referring to how this is used in the LRC and by the Blendeds. I am one of the very few who has tried to draw a distinction between "the oneness of the Body" and other expressions like "the feeling of the Body" or "Keeping the oneness of the Body". But within the context of how this expression is used it bears no relation to how God actually speaks through people. On the contrary it is much closer akin to how the Catholics choose a Pope. The feeling of the Body is the consensus of the "cardinals", i.e. blendeds.

The problem I am having with the book of James is that this is one of the 66 books of the Bible. It is a divine revelation and a wonderful book at protecting saints from being deceived by the likes of WL, etal. The disrespect shown this book by WL is an expression of his pride and arrogance. The fact that so many in the LRC line up behind this farce even though they pretend to base their faith on the Bible is one of many hypocrisies in the LRC. They claim they are rich and know not that they are blind, and miserable and poor.

[Cassidy]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

The problem I am having with the book of James is that this is one of the 66 books of the Bible. It is a divine revelation and a wonderful book at protecting saints from being deceived by the likes of WL, etal. The disrespect shown this book by WL is an expression of his pride and arrogance. The fact that so many in the LRC line up behind this farce even though they pretend to base their faith on the Bible is one of many hypocrisies in the LRC. They claim they are rich and know not that they are blind, and miserable and poor.

Moses was inspired to write the book of Genesis. Was Satan's words to Eve God's words?

If not, then why are they there?

[UntoHim]

The part where he said "hath God not said" are God's word.

Next question.....

[Cassidy]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

The part where he said "hath God not said" are God's word.

Next question.....

Next two questions:

Job was inspired to write Job. Was the counsel Job's friends gave him God's words?

Matthew was inspired to write Matthew. Was Peter's words objecting to the Lord's going to the cross God's words?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Cassidy

Next two questions:

Job was inspired to write Job. Was the counsel Job's friends gave him God's words?

Matthew was inspired to write Matthew. Was Peter's words objecting to the Lord's going to the cross God's words?

I've been down this street before. It's a dead end.

[Cassidy]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I've been down this street before. It's a dead end.

You're dismissing again.

Ohio, I am sympathetic to folks who have concerns about dissing the book of James. However, those concerns are irrational and unfounded. Not all words in the Bible are God's, that is clear, so on what basis is the book of James held to a different standard as if everything in it were God's words?

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Cassidy

Next two questions:

Job was inspired to write Job. Was the counsel Job's friends gave him God's words?

Matthew was inspired to write Matthew. Was Peter's words objecting to the Lord's going to the cross God's words?

The answer to this should be obvious. It's one thing to say that the records of historical figures' speaking are in God's word but themselves do not necessarily reflect God's thought. That's entirely reasonable.

But it's another thing entirely to say that the very teaching the writer of a New Testament book is putting forth in the book is not God's thought.

How, pray tell, are we to know which teachings are actually God's thought and which are the ones God let the teacher teach to show us what people who are not really clear on God's thought would teach?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Cassidy

Next two questions:

Job was inspired to write Job. Was the counsel Job's friends gave him God's words?

Matthew was inspired to write Matthew. Was Peter's words objecting to the Lord's going to the cross God's words?

Once again, are you comparing Peter's word to Jesus saying this shall not happen to you to the Book of James, or to Job, or to some Psalms or to the Book of Proverbs? If not, what is the relevance? If so, say so plainly.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Cassidy

Moses was inspired to write the book of Genesis. Was Satan's words to Eve God's words?

If not, then why are they there?

Are you comparing the Book of James to Satan's words?

Are you saying that an explanation of why God's word includes quotes of what Satan has said is an explanation of how you and the LRC treat the book of James?

Answer my questions and I will answer your question.