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Old 11-05-2012, 04:50 AM   #1
aron
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Default Re: heaven

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah View Post
She said they were the same place, the paradise where the thief went when he was crucified is the same as heaven where God our Father is. I asked "how is that possible? Jesus said to the thief "this day" you will be with me in paradise the day He was crucified, but then on the third day when he rose from the dead He told the disciples He hadn't ascended yet to the Father. How can they be the same place?"
ZNP,

You say that you don't want your kids confused. I understand. But my sense is that your certainty will ultimately lead to further confusion. At least it does for me. And since I am older than your kids, and have read the Bible, and am not stupid, at least intellectually, the certainty with which you & Lee operate is somewhat off-putting.

I prefer a conversation in which both you and I admit to being at least partly in the dark, here on this earthly coil, and we together explore the light in God's word. Then the Lord Himself comes alongside and helps us in our weakness. He declares the things concerning Himself. In His light we begin to see the light.

Your declarations of certitude push me away from this process of exploration. Like all of Lee's bullet points, they become barriers to the light.
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