Faith and Politics

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I don't think most subscribe to that policy. Most enter the political arena because they fear for their children and others'. Most believers are scared about the way things are going, and they are afraid to do nothing about it.

Afraid that their own teaching to them will not protect them against the evil society.

Do we think that the Greek society was really any better? Jesus saves and changes lives. Trust him. Don't beat-up the heathen to make your Christian life easier.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by OBW

Afraid that their own teaching to them will not protect them against the evil society.

Do we think that the Greek society was really any better? Jesus saves and changes lives. Trust him. Don't beat-up the heathen to make your Christian life easier.

You missed the whole point.

Aren't you the one with the banner To our Children's Children's Children?

That's what I'm talking about.

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Ohio

You missed the whole point.

Aren't you the one with the banner To our Children's Children's Children?

That's what I'm talking about.

You are correct about the banner. But even the training of our children is our responsibility, not society's (the need for a village not withstanding). If my part is to love God and love my neighbor, how am I relieved of that obligation because I want to be sure that it is easy to keep my children from getting bad information from other sources?

That is sort of how I read that kind of argument.

It is a little like an argument against home schooling I heard many years ago — — Keep your children from even hearing about all the disagreeable stuff out there for as long as possible and they won't have any idea about how to combat it when if finally appears on their radar in college.

There are clearly holes in that argument. But it is also valid. What I'm saying is that I do not take my position for the goal of making it harder on our children's children's children. But making that easier cannot be an excuse to shortcut our righteous and God-given commands. Just like some intuition cannot override God's righteousness, no matter what Nee, Lee, or anyone else says about it (in the other thread).

How to "protect" our children will always be an issue. It is a valid and important discussion. But going "on to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before" as we set out to force the laws of society to make our job easier is not the "Christian" solution. I don't say to not try to make society more just and moral. But when we join with the foam-at-the-mouth "conservative Christians" (like my aunt) who think that we should fill the jails with homosexuals, we deny that God is loving. At least as far as the world will be concerned (and not just the homosexuals in the world). Just an example.

If you don't see it, then I hope that one day you do.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by OBW

How to "protect" our children will always be an issue. It is a valid and important discussion. But going "on to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before" as we set out to force the laws of society to make our job easier is not the "Christian" solution. I don't say to not try to make society more just and moral. But when we join with the foam-at-the-mouth "conservative Christians" (like my aunt) who think that we should fill the jails with homosexuals, we deny that God is loving. At least as far as the world will be concerned (and not just the homosexuals in the world). Just an example.

If you don't see it, then I hope that one day you do.

Now I "see" where you are coming from.

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Now I "see" where you are coming from.

I actually thought you might. Despite times that we seem so far apart, it probably is never what it seems.