Another Look at the Trinity

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Igzy

Not convinced? Just think of yourself. You have you in yourself, and you have the you which you can objectively observe and have a relationship with, even talk to--your self-image. Are these two or one? On the one hand they are definitely one. But on the other hand, how can you have a relationship with yourself if there is not, in some sense, two? Further, the relationship you have with yourself is in some sense a third entity, and yet it is also you.

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Again, we experience a faint shadow of this reality in ourselves. Do you ever talk to yourself? We all do, at least in thoughts. Who are you talking to and why do you do you need to talk to yourself? Who is talking and who is listening?

The fact that I think about myself or become engaged in thoughts requiring more than "I already know the answer to that" thinking does not establish more than one person living in this sack of skin. Even those special persons who have voices in their heads spurring them on are still just one person.

Arguing with yourself just proves that you are aware that you have not figured something out or have not made up your mind. Otherwise, no argument.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by OBW

The fact that I think about myself or become engaged in thoughts requiring more than "I already know the answer to that" thinking does not establish more than one person living in this sack of skin. Even those special persons who have voices in their heads spurring them on are still just one person.

Arguing with yourself just proves that you are aware that you have not figured something out or have not made up your mind. Otherwise, no argument.

In the first place I never said there was more than one person living in us. I said what we experience gives us a faint idea of what is going on in God.

Read Edward's piece and Piper before throwing this out. I think it might grow on you. It is at least helpful to me. Edwards never said it explained everything, but it explains more than most explanations.

As to arguing with yourself, I never mentioned it. Whether you argue or not, you have a relationship with yourself. You can't help it. Healthy people have a loving relationship with themselves. The healthier you are the less conflict you have. But you still have a relationship.