God's economy vs Deputy authority

[Ohio]

ZNP, thank you for posting this.

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

5. At the time of construction it was always presented that LSM was now going to have two centers in the US. But in hindsight I wonder how much financial sense such an investment made? However, if you factor in the idea that WL and PL had invested in Irving as a “worst case” plan then it does make more sense. Surely they couldn’t have anticipated how it ultimately turned out.

I definitely heard that Irving was chosen because the leadership there was much more favorable to WL, especially during the turbulent times of the late 70's. (TC and Cleveland would have loved to have received the same opportunity.) The property was sold to the church for tax advantages, knowing that DFW was planning a runway directly over the property.

Taipei went sour. Elden hall went sour. Anaheim went sour. Needed a "new start" for the ministry.

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

6. KR is a Phd and has a very good education, I spent several years with him at Rice. I don’t believe it is realistic to assume that his scholarship is really as sloppy as it would have to be for the whitewash he worked on to have been innocent. Either he is a fool or was involved in a coverup. Based on my experience I would be much more inclined to believe that KR felt the saints were foolish enough that he could pull off the whitewash than to believe that this book accurately depicts his scholarship. Why would he do that, well, his major was perfectly aligned with working on a translation of the Bible. There are not many jobs in that area and if this is what it would take to get this job, as someone who spent several years with him in Houston, I am sorry to say that I would not put it past him.

I heard that KR was living in Greece to learn the language, and then was recalled by Texas leaders to help with the translation of the recovery version. KR later explained to us that during the Life Study era, JI's translation work lacked continuity from book to book of the New Test. I always felt that KR's work added nothing to the translation, and in fact was much less readable. It's just sickening to think that his motivation for smearing JI's name was simply to take his job and move up the ladder, but these kinds of things happen every day, just not in the kingdom of God.

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

7. I see absolutely no basis for EM to be sent to Anaheim at a time of serious upheaval other than that he was a classic yes man, and would rubber stamp anything he was told to. The only reason for EM to be chosen for this role is that BP and RG chose him, there is no other explanation I can see. His apology to PL is absolutely repugnant.

If ever there was a pom-pom cheerleader of the ministry, it was he. Someone once counted 33x in one training meeting in which EM shamelessly invoked the glorious name of WL after he passed away.

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

8. RG and BP engineered a written consecration to the ministry by the elders.

To say this was done only to brown nose WL would be short-sighted. Based on others' accounts, signatures were coerced in order to bring all leaders under submission to LSM. It was a strategic power move.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

ZNP, thank you for posting this.



I definitely heard that Irving was chosen because the leadership there was much more favorable to WL, especially during the turbulent times of the late 70's. (TC and Cleveland would have loved to have received the same opportunity.) The property was sold to the church for tax advantages, knowing that DFW was planning a runway directly over the property.

Taipei went sour. Elden hall went sour. Anaheim went sour. Needed a "new start" for the ministry.



I heard that KR was living in Greece to learn the language, and then was recalled by Texas leaders to help with the translation of the recovery version. KR later explained to us that during the Life Study era, JI's translation work lacked continuity from book to book of the New Test. I always felt that KR's work added nothing to the translation, and in fact was much less readable. It's just sickening to think that his motivation for smearing JI's name was simply to take his job and move up the ladder, but these kinds of things happen every day, just not in the kingdom of God.



If ever there was a pom-pom cheerleader of the ministry, it was he. Someone once counted 33x in one training meeting in which EM shamelessly invoked the glorious name of WL after he passed away.



To say this was done only to brown nose WL would be short-sighted. Based on others' accounts, signatures were coerced in order to bring all leaders under submission to LSM. It was a strategic power move.

It seems very Machiavellian. There isn't a "simple misunderstanding" between JI and RG / BP / KR / EM. On the contrary this is the proverbial "selling your soul". Imagine what it must be like to be one of them: you wear a robe of being a "deputy authority" of the Lord yet in your conscience you know it a lie, the Lord knows it is a lie, the Spirit knows it is a lie, Saints whisper it is a lie, and even on the internet it is clearly proclaimed to be a lie. You can only pretend to be a Bible scholar within the small confines of the LRC, if you step outside of that bubble you get no respect at all. So if your lies have put you into a prison why would you want to be alone. You have to prepare a message or a conference, but when you pray to the Lord all you get is convicted to confess and repent. So what choice do you have but to open up an old WL message and parrot it to keep your sins hidden. Of course your wife knows, how could a wife or kids respect someone like this? Of course anyone with the slightest amount of self respect would realize this is not the person or life they want, they'd confess, repent, and go get a real job. The problem is that after 10 or 20 years in the LRC what job can you do? You aren't qualified to do anything. Anyone who thinks there isn't a hell try building your world around a lie to the church of the Living God.

[OBW]

Ohio,

At the time of the sale and the building in Irving, flights were going directly overhead already without the new runway. Southeast take-offs were quickly turned to the right to a due South direction to avoid going over more expensive houses to the Southeast. And they put extra insulation in the exterior walls, roof and upper ceilings because of it.

They eventually stopped the takeoffs from that runway, but when they built the new East-most runway years later, the planes were essentially landing to the North (obviously not the main air-traffic direction in Dallas) less than a block to the West of the building. But they seldom use it for take-offs.

At some level, I believe that the airport is being used as an excuse to try to get the airport or the city to pay for the building. A building that was put where it was to take advantage of the proximity of the airport.

And the plans for that new runway existed long before the idea of a church/print shop/training facility was hatched.