Authority and Submission

[Paul Miletus]

Originally Posted by aron

You say that the Spirit alone can discern this kind of thing, i.e. whether the "one publication" edict is of God. I disagree. We have the Bible. The Bible clearly tells us that there is one Spirit, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all(Eph. 4:4-6). It does not say there is one publication. In fact, it gives us the prime example of "many publications". Did Paul try to shut down James and Jude? No, he never said only one person (Paul) can write to the saints. Mark wrote, John wrote, Peter wrote. Peter recommended Paul's ministry, even though he said it was hard for him to understand. There is clearly not "one publication" in the Bible. There are many publications, all testifying of Jesus.

Please correct me if I am wrong... It seems that your notion is that only Brother Witness Lee can write and only the writings of Brother Witness Lee must be published in the local church. However, I believe this is not the case. What I believe with one publication is that to satisfy the current vision or the up-to-date truth that makes up the ministry of the age. In other words, there must not be any diversion of the truth or the ministry of the New Testament as endeavored by God's economy.

Likewise, it must be noted that there were many writers of the Bible as you have cited. However, please consider that whatever they have written has to do only with God's economy, which is the New Testament Ministry. They altogether meet in one point and was not diverted to any other teachings except the Head and the Body of Christ.

[Suannehill]

Originally Posted by Paul Miletus

Please correct me if I am wrong... It seems that your notion is that only Brother Witness Lee can write and only the writings of Brother Witness Lee must be published in the local church. However, I believe this is not the case. What I believe with one publication is that to satisfy the current vision or the up-to-date truth that makes up the ministry of the age. In other words, there must not be any diversion of the truth or the ministry of the New Testament as endeavored by God's economy.

Likewise, it must be noted that there were many writers of the Bible as you have cited. However, please consider that whatever they have written has to do only with God's economy, which is the New Testament Ministry. They altogether meet in one point and was not diverted to any other teachings except the Head and the Body of Christ.

This is a parroting of the blendeds which AGAIN we all have heard. You do not need to repeat LSM slogans we know them as well as you do.
Tell us something that the Lord has spoken to YOU, not to Ron.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Paul Miletus

Please correct me if I am wrong... It seems that your notion is that only Brother Witness Lee can write and only the writings of Brother Witness Lee must be published in the local church. However, I believe this is not the case. What I believe with one publication is that to satisfy the current vision or the up-to-date truth that makes up the ministry of the age. In other words, there must not be any diversion of the truth or the ministry of the New Testament as endeavored by God's economy.

Please read this paragraph 3x and explain to me what it means. Then read it 3 more times. That's what I did. It still makes no sense.

No wonder why so many have rejected this policy.

Let me relay a bit of contemporary history here. For many years Jim Reetzke Sr. in Chicago (an original "founding father" of the Movement) stood against this policy of "One Publication." He made a famous comment which all GLA leaders have heard, "Christians have died for the right to publish." It was his own flip-flop on this matter in ~2003-04 which allowed this extreme policy to "become law." His long time partner Bill Barker, the administrator, also resisted LSM domination, that is until he got publicly chastised by TC and became deeply offended.

Until then, BP and his blendeds were unable to carry out their plans to "lynch" arch-rival TC. Finally, with the Chicago leaders JR and BB in hand, BP could proceed forward with his plans to become "global leader." The whole matter of "one publication," was just a means to reach the end, a smokescreen to hide real motives.

[YP0534]

Originally Posted by Paul Miletus

What I believe with one publication is that to satisfy the current vision or the up-to-date truth that makes up the ministry of the age. In other words, there must not be any diversion of the truth or the ministry of the New Testament as endeavored by God's economy.

Likewise, it must be noted that there were many writers of the Bible as you have cited. However, please consider that whatever they have written has to do only with God's economy, which is the New Testament Ministry. They altogether meet in one point and was not diverted to any other teachings except the Head and the Body of Christ.

Brother Paul, let me ask you this question:

Why do you believe the "current vision" or "up-to-date truth" is according to the revelation of God's economy?

Many of us here could testify that this is not the case.

Let me be clear: I am not asking for a doctrinal statement from you. I myself can say something like "According to God's desire for a counterpart, He has the necessity for some gifts to the Body to assist the saints in the work of building and those gifts will bear God's oracle in accordance with the unique ministry of the New Testament." We all know this and many of us even strongly believe this as a result of what we have received from brother Lee.

No, I am not asking for another answer like that from you, either quoted from or entirely based upon the publications of LSM.

Instead, I want you to consider that perhaps, for a number of reasons, there is a parallel work going on which you might be able to understand and justify in a certain way as being "the one speaking" but which is not in fact the actual one speaking of our Triune God.

And here is your clue: the next time you hear one of the frequent and common self-justifying teachings, ask the Lord if such words are truly directed to those out here who do not listen to such things anyway, or are they directed to those inside your denomination, to saints like yourself, who are kept in on account of such things being spoken.

Don't take my word for this. Ask the Lord. Why do these men spend so much effort to keep saying again and again that they are uniquely working the ministry? If it is true, then you should just do it. There is no need to spend so much time convincing others that they should be convinced by you. If God is in the speaking, He can surely do the convincing.

If you could only look at this sad situation and see it with annointed eyes:
http://www.lsm.org/outlines.html

[djohnson(XLCmember)]

Ohio what is the reason Reetzke did the flip flop? I've heard something about the LSM helping out with some mortgage for his church there in Chicago. I've heard that Chu and Barker had a falling out. I ask because it seems like a major flip flop for an author and bookstore owner to make and esp publicly. It turns his credibility to zero.

[Ohio]

Follow the money.

[djohnson(XLCmember)]

Thought so!