The Wild, Wild MidWest - All things Great Lakes Area and Canada

Originally Posted by Ohio

The latest bizzarro in the whole Nittany Nightmare is that the county prosecutor for the area disappeared after the early incidents became known, and he has never been found. His computer was found in some big river sans hard drive.

Hopefully they will get to the bottom of this because it appears that it goes much deeper than Sandusky.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hopefully they will get to the bottom of this because it appears that it goes much deeper than Sandusky.

Perhaps the hardest thing in life to reconcile is the betrayal of trust, especially those who are so well respected, and have won your own trust over time, and have become close personally. Sandusky was, by all counts, a father figure to many kids who lacked one. In like manner, LSM had the total respect from a whole generation of young people. Many of us viewed WL and LSM as the closest thing to God and godliness on this whole earth.

The Bible records that when the Lord reclined at table for the last supper (forget the artist renderings we often see) it was John to His front and Judas to His rear. I believe He was closest to these two, with Judas acting as His personal valet, of sorts. That is why that betrayal was so painful to the Lord and fulfilled Psalms 41.9, "My own close friend, whom I trusted, who shared my bread, has lifted up his heel against me."

It's hard for the human psychology to understand how ones who have done so much good for us can also be guilty of doing evil. It's better when bad people look the devil, than when they look and act like angels.

Originally Posted by Ohio

Perhaps the hardest thing in life to reconcile is the betrayal of trust, especially those who are so well respected, and have won your own trust over time, and have become close personally. Sandusky was, by all counts, a father figure to many kids who lacked one. In like manner, LSM had the total respect from a whole generation of young people. Many of us viewed WL and LSM as the closest thing to God and godliness on this whole earth.

The Bible records that when the Lord reclined at table for the last supper (forget the artist renderings we often see) it was John to His front and Judas to His rear. I believe He was closest to these two, with Judas acting as His personal valet, of sorts. That is why that betrayal was so painful to the Lord and fulfilled Psalms 41.9, "My own close friend, whom I trusted, who shared my bread, has lifted up his heel against me."

It's hard for the human psychology to understand how ones who have done so much good for us can also be guilty of doing evil. It's better when bad people look the devil, than when they look and act like angels.

I just listened to an interview Sandusky gave in '99 explaining that he was retiring in order to devote his time to helping young kids with his charity. Since it is pretty well established that he was forced to retire as a result of being caught in '98 I am not buying the idea that the people who allowed Sandusky to continue working with children in the guise of doing charity work were "good" people or those doing "good" work. Forcing him to retire was all about self protection, allowing him to continue as he did, unimpeded, is truly a horrific and cowardly act by all who knew what he had done and had the power to put a stop to it.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I just listened to an interview Sandusky gave in '99 explaining that he was retiring in order to devote his time to helping young kids with his charity. Since it is pretty well established that he was forced to retire as a result of being caught in '98 I am not buying the idea that the people who allowed Sandusky to continue working with children in the guise of doing charity work were "good" people or those doing "good" work. Forcing him to retire was all about self protection, allowing him to continue as he did, unimpeded, is truly a horrific and cowardly act by all who knew what he had done and had the power to put a stop to it.

Can't agree more, that's why it is so egregious when people in power coverup the crimes of others.

Right now even the new PA governor, a former prosecutor and attorney general, who replaced that casino-friendly, liberal "what-what" former governor, is involved. Why would Joe Pa place his home in his wife's name just weeks before the grand jury report came out? Why would the former district attorney disappear, never to be found, while investigating the Penn State scandal? There's lots of nasty critters and snakes hiding out under those rocks in Happy Valley! The time has finally come to turn these rocks over!

When I first apprehended the incredible fall from grace occurring at Penn State, nearby the home of many an in-law of mine, I had to consider if somehow God was involved. Did the lid blow off the coverup because our God truly is righteous and just, caring for orphans and widows? Did the mighty fall from grace because our God truly is holy and jealous, not allowing human idols to steal His Son's glory in the hearts of His many lost sheep?

Is the same happening to LSM? I have witnessed brothers (like Ed Marks) glorying and extolling all the wonders of the man WL well beyond the praises due to His Firstborn Son. For decades LSM leadership has been hiding and spinning their unrighteousness in order to maintain some pristine image of godliness. They love the form, yet deny the reality. They have placed their own slimy mud on the faces of godly men (like John Ingalls) in order to preserve a false image of ministry cleanliness. They called it "quarantining the leprous rebels" then they told us not to check it out or we might "touch death."

Today the Nittany Lion Nation faces the same heart-wrenching quandary as many of us former LC members. For decades we held WL in such high regard. We were convinced he was more than a minister, he was more than special to both God and man. We believed his standards of excellence were impeccable. WL was the recovery, and the recovery was WL! We were convinced that his ministry had only brought glory to His holy name and had served the children of God richly.

Then we learned the truth. Lots of what we were told was simply hype. What was hiding under all those "rocks" at LSM. Could they be overturned and face the shining light of the sun? Like Nittany Lion Nation, the Recovery "Nation" has to decide who and what to believe. Because leaders and "responsible" people will never admit to the actual truth, the rest of us are forced to take sides. No wonder things get a little contentious. Occasionally even this forum needs a little "pepper spray."

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I based my comment on this article ...

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish...cious-eyebrows

In which, the writer quoted this source ...

I had heard the same. There are many to share the forthcoming burdens. The impression I have is the former d.a. knew as a result of the investigation and nothing happened? Much like respected LSM co-workers knew of PL's reputation and did apparently nothing to shield the sisters from PL.

[Ohio]

I should add that my intention here in posting is not to focus on secular events in central PA, neither to gloat over the demise of a football rival, but to show how the business operations at LSM are no different than those in the world, and in some cases are even worse. If we can't excuse the Penn State coaching staff for being such "great guys," doing so many great things for "the university," then neither can we look past the significant "misdeeds" at LSM with off the cuff remarks like, "we all make mistakes," or "let him who is without sin, cast the first stone."

Christian leaders are held by God to a higher standard. LSM has not only failed the Biblical standards, but cannot even measure up to the standards of the world. Here I am not discussing teachings, but actions by officials at LSM, including WL and the present officers, also called "Blended Brothers." By blinding themselves with arrogant pride, as if they are somehow so exceedingly special to God, they convince themselves that they are above the law. Rules that apply to the rest of the Christian public, and even the world in general, just don't apply to them.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Ohio

By blinding themselves with arrogant pride, as if they are somehow so exceedingly special to God, they convince themselves that they are above the law. Rules that apply to the rest of the Christian public, and even the world in general, just don't apply to them.

If we as Christians don't learn from our history, we will repeat it.
When I say, our history, I'm referring to Church history. In particular and in addition to the LRC, you have the Exclusive Brethren and the International Church of Christ just to illustrate a few.