The Split off Thread - The Thread with no Name

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Igzy

I'm not the one to say whether it is okay here or not. But I am one to say if I feel you've got it coming and you continue to test the good graces of people here I'll probably be the first to let you have it. So consider yourself advised.

Right. So you decide who "has it coming" to them and what they have coming. So it seems, "judge not lest ye be judged" doesn't apply to you then. Like I said, good to know. And "consider yourself advised" is a kind of threat to me to watch out. I perceive that your attitude is devoid of the Christian spirit. And yet, it seems that, unlike Harold who gets censured regularly, you behave this way with impugnity here as well. If that's the way it is, better that it is known by all.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by zeek

Right. So you decide who "has it coming" to them and what they have coming. So it seems, "judge not lest ye be judged" doesn't apply to you then. Like I said, good to know. And "consider yourself advised" is a kind of threat to me to watch out. I perceive that your attitude is devoid of the Christian spirit. And yet, it seems that, unlike Harold who gets censured regularly, you behave this way with impugnity here as well. If that's the way it is, better that it is known by all.

The Bible authorizes us to rebuke, and it doesn't tell us to check with a committee before we do so.

And I didn't threaten you. I just meant to say I mean what I say and am not waffling on it.

By the way, now you are rebuking me. So you are doing just what you claim is judging when I do it, which means you are claiming to be an exception now, which invalidates your whole argument.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Igzy

The Bible authorizes us to rebuke, and it doesn't tell us to check with a committee before we do so.

And I didn't threaten you. I just meant to say I mean what I say and am not waffling on it.

By the way, now you are rebuking me. So you are doing just what you claim is judging when I do it, which means you are claiming to be an exception now, which invalidates your whole argument.

No I just confronted you with how I see it. I don't claim the postion of judge and executioner. I'm not telling you what to do. Just giving you my point of view. You may not want that either. I understand.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by zeek

No I just confronted you with how I see it. I don't claim the postion of judge and executioner. I'm not telling you what to do. Just giving you my point of view. You may not want that either. I understand.

Honestly I don't see any difference between what you are doing and what I did to Harold. Maybe I was stronger, but the essence of the thing is the same. You are saying I behaved wrongly and need to change. I did the same to Harold.

The difference is I'm talking to you straight up.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by zeek

No I just confronted you with how I see it. I don't claim the postion of judge and executioner. I'm not telling you what to do. Just giving you my point of view. You may not want that either. I understand.

So you are telling me I'm wrong but not encouraging me to change? What would be the point of that?

Seems to me you want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to be able to tell me I'm wrong but also to be able to say you are not doing what I did. Silliness.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Igzy

So you are telling me I'm wrong but not encouraging me to change? What would be the point of that?
Seems to me you want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to be able to tell me I'm wrong but also to be able to say you are not doing what I did. Silliness.

I'm telling you what I see. It's just my opinion, like your impressions of Harold and whatever else are yours. What you do with the information is your business. If you think that either your view or mine is more than that, then we disagree.

I suppose that you see yourself as a straight-shooter who tells it like it is and lets the chips fall where they may. So be it.

My perspective allows for multiple points of view. To rebuke you would be to try to control your behavior. I'm not interested in being responsible for your behavior or Harold's. But I will express my opinions.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by zeek

I'm telling you what I see. It's just my opinion, like your impressions of Harold and whatever else are yours. What you do with the information is your business. If you think that either your view or mine is more than that, then we disagree.

Everyone has opinions. But all are not created equal. The facts and the Lord witness with some more than others. All we can do is try to be tuned into them and Him. Still from a personal perspective we should not consider our own opinions privileged.

I suppose that you see yourself as a straight-shooter who tells it like it is and lets the chips fall where they may. So be it.

To me that's the only way to be on these forums. They don't lend themselves to subtlety and inflection, nor to thin skin.

If you observe the behavior of internet trolls, they always deal in shades of meaning that can be taken more than one way, to maintain plausible deniability. They suggest and imply and skirt the edges of taunting. They speak truth with the intent of lying. They pat you on the back while sticking a knife in your ribs.

In short they do everything but shoot straight. That's the last thing I want to be. I'm sure I have and will offend some people. But if I ever genuinely hurt someone I'll be first to apologize, and have.