Lee and the book of Job

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

The Jews during the Holocaust put God on trial for being indifferent to their suffering, and found Him guilty. Then afterwards went back to their respective cells to pray.

As humans we just have to accept the indifference of God. And there's nothing we can do about it.

This is a non sequitor. As a direct result of the holocaust Israel petitioned for and received the right to set up the nation of Israel. The return to Israel by the Jews in 1948 was definitely something that Israel and others did about the holocaust. The reasoning was simple, we cannot trust the laws of other countries to keep us safe, the only thing we can do is form a country and fight to protect our own rights.

[rayliotta]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

This is a non sequitor. As a direct result of the holocaust Israel petitioned for and received the right to set up the nation of Israel. The return to Israel by the Jews in 1948 was definitely something that Israel and others did about the holocaust.

Kinda like a consolation prize?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by rayliotta

Kinda like a consolation prize?

If you disagree with ZNP's "Question of Balance," concerning the plight of Israel, then remember the prequel was salvation for their "Children's children's children."

Sorry about getting carried away with that Blues theme. I'm sure OBW and STG can relate.

[rayliotta]

Originally Posted by Ohio

If you disagree with ZNP's "Question of Balance," concerning the plight of Israel, then remember the prequel was salvation for their "Children's children's children."

Sorry about getting carried away with that Blues theme. I'm sure OBW and STG can relate.

Thanks Ohio, I'm enjoying the great grand-Moodies as I type. (wikipedia and youtube are my friend)

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by rayliotta

Thanks Ohio, I'm enjoying the great grand-Moodies as I type. (wikipedia and youtube are my friend)

ZNP and awareness discussed the "question of balance" which history has wrestled with, vis-a-vis whether the formation of Israel balanced the loss during the holocaust. awareness faulted God for allowing the holocaust, while ZNP pointed to the nation of Israel which resulted. I added to the mix noting that diasporic Jews at heart cared most for their children's children's children, and most ashkenazi Jews saw the self-determination afforded by the Palestinian homeland worth the price. It is a well-known fact, that as a people, the real Jews put their children first before themselves.

The Moody Blues analogy came to me when I remembered that the "Children's" album (OBW's avatar) preceded the "Question" album, (Sons to Glory's Avatar) and I pointed out that in the greater scheme of things, both God and the Jews placed their "children" first, thus outweighing the "question of balance" debate which has long existed.

On a personal note, about the only genre of music that I ever really loved was the british progressive rock of the late '60s early '70s, of which the Moody Blues excelled.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

ZNP and awareness discussed the "question of balance" which history has wrestled with, vis-a-vis whether the formation of Israel balanced the loss during the holocaust. awareness faulted God for allowing the holocaust, while ZNP pointed to the nation of Israel which resulted. I added to the mix noting that diasporic Jews at heart cared most for their children's children's children, and most ashkenazi Jews saw the self-determination afforded by the Palestinian homeland worth the price. It is a well-known fact, that as a people, the real Jews put their children first before themselves.

The Moody Blues analogy came to me when I remembered that the "Children's" album (OBW's avatar) preceded the "Question" album, (Sons to Glory's Avatar) and I pointed out that in the greater scheme of things, both God and the Jews placed their "children" first, thus outweighing the "question of balance" debate which has long existed.

On a personal note, about the only genre of music that I ever really loved was the british progressive rock of the late '60s early '70s, of which the Moody Blues excelled.

Just so everyone is clear, the guy writing this was thrown by references to Star Wars.

[awareness]

Okay, bro ZNP will like this one. In the 16th chapter of Lee's Life-Study of the book of Job, Lee brings in the Triune God and dispensing.

Lee just can't help his myopia of the Bible.

The problem is the book of Job speaks of "the sons of God." The trinity is the Father Son and Holy Spirit, so where does the sons of God fit into the trinity? Are the sons of God grouped into threes? If so, the Book of Job doesn't mention it.

But Lee still sees the dispensing of the triune God in the book of Job.

Basically, Lee sees things that aren't there in the book of Job in order to push is "God's Economy" theology. His Job reference, as shown at the beginning of this chapter is Job 10:13a : "Hold your peace, let me alone, that I may speak..." which is out in left field in his message.

I'll try to link the 16th chapter of the Life-Study of Job, but I've noticed that links on the online Life-Studies don't work well. So if the link doesn't work, find your way to the Life-Study of Job and go to the 16th chapter.

Click here -> http://www.ministrybooks.org/books.c...3%28%40K%27%0A

[rayliotta]

Originally Posted by Ohio

ZNP and awareness discussed the "question of balance" which history has wrestled with, vis-a-vis whether the formation of Israel balanced the loss during the holocaust. awareness faulted God for allowing the holocaust, while ZNP pointed to the nation of Israel which resulted. I added to the mix noting that diasporic Jews at heart cared most for their children's children's children, and most ashkenazi Jews saw the self-determination afforded by the Palestinian homeland worth the price. It is a well-known fact, that as a people, the real Jews put their children first before themselves.

I'm sure there are a few other groups of which this could be said, Catholics come to mind...

Originally Posted by Ohio

On a personal note, about the only genre of music that I ever really loved was the british progressive rock of the late '60s early '70s, of which the Moody Blues excelled.

Glad to see I've a fellow Pink Floyd fan on the board.