Elvis has left the building

ZNPaaneah · 09-02-2011, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by awareness

So you've gotten out of Lee's movement, but haven't got Lee's movement out of you?

Typical. You said my response was weak, this is lame.

OBW · 09-02-2011, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Typical. You said my response was weak, this is lame.

Actually, I have the same thoughts. It is not weak. It is a short post with a rather profound observation. You can't just dismiss it because the one making it is so often found to make crazy statements.

You splice unrelated things together through the existence of a common word. Or the fact that it is about God. Or about man. I've hardly heard this kind of nonsense outside of Nee and Lee. You may not like them. Or want to be associated with them. But you practice their ways with gusto.

You don't answer my questions concerning the alleged links between Job and the One New Man or concerning claims that there is proof that Jesse taught David anything. You just say that because you can make generalities not recorded anywhere, it must be so. And carry on as if it qualifies as a preponderance of evidence.

I sort of want to misquote a John Houseman line and say "Mister ZNP, here is a dime. Take it, call your mother, and tell her there is serious doubt about you ever becoming a teacher of the Bible." Oh, there are still a few people who will be overwhelmed by the faux spirituality that is exuded by the kind of arguments you make here. They continue to ensnare a number of people to the teachings of Lee. But if there is any real meaning to the charge to "come, let us reason," then this kind of nonsense will be cast aside very quickly.

It is easier to deal with the nonsense of those "I write it so it is scripture" guys. Everyone sees through their ignorance. And despite the number of people who don't want to put up with the nonsense of 11of101, his can be seen through. But these kinds of nonsense arguments are entirely more insidious because they drip with a wet veneer of spirituality and more closely use the words of scripture to say things that simply are not true. Or are not true with respect to the passages being discussed.

As I have said over and over, it is one thing to openly take one passage and springboard to something else. But to declare that the first passage is about that something else is to obliterate the meaning of the first and make it subservient to the second. This is something that is undertaken way to often by Lee. And now it seems way too often by you. Job is not about the One New Man. Even if you can find a springboard for that unrelated discussion. You mock the very discussion of God and evil by saying it is so.

ZNPaaneah · 09-02-2011, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OBW

Actually, I have the same thoughts. It is not weak. It is a short post with a rather profound observation. You can't just dismiss it because the one making it is so often found to make crazy statements.

Not true. If you lose your credibility it is a waste of time and foolish to entertain foolish questions. He said that the book of Job portrays God as a buffoon. I do not need to be entangled in that malarkey unless he backs it up.

ZNPaaneah · 09-02-2011, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OBW

You splice unrelated things together through the existence of a common word. Or the fact that it is about God. Or about man. I've hardly heard this kind of nonsense outside of Nee and Lee. You may not like them. Or want to be associated with them. But you practice their ways with gusto.

You don't answer my questions concerning the alleged links between Job and the One New Man or concerning claims that there is proof that Jesse taught David anything. You just say that because you can make generalities not recorded anywhere, it must be so. And carry on as if it qualifies as a preponderance of evidence.

Nonsense refers to your interpretation that we cannot understand the universe that God has created and therefore have no standing to discuss righteousness with Him or to ask why He has treated us this way.

Nonsense refers to you saying that the book of Job is about God putting Job in his place.

Nonsense is saying that the conclusion to this book is the pathetic answer you say that the Lord gives to Job, basically you can't understand so tough.

Nonsense is the idea that you cannot refer to the rest of the Bible to understand a verse, even though Peter says this is the only way you can understand it.

Nonsense is reading the Book of Job and not seeing that it is about Jesus.

ZNPaaneah · 09-02-2011, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OBW

I sort of want to misquote a John Houseman line and say "Mister ZNP, here is a dime. Take it, call your mother, and tell her there is serious doubt about you ever becoming a teacher of the Bible."

OBi Wan has spoken and turns out that John Houseman is also a Jedi knight? Is this what the guys at the Star Wars conventions dream about, being a teacher of the Bible?

OBW · 09-02-2011, 06:51 AM

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OBi Wan has spoken and turns out that John Houseman is also a Jedi knight? Is this what the guys at the Star Wars conventions dream about, being a teacher of the Bible?

"OBW" has nothing to do with Star Wars. So your pathetic jab missed.

ZNPaaneah · 09-02-2011, 07:23 AM

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"OBW" has nothing to do with Star Wars. So your pathetic jab missed.

This post was a direct referral to Post #134, if you take offense to this why didn't you say that to Awareness? Why do you wait 26 posts to all of a sudden take issue? This is hypocrisy.

OBW · 09-02-2011, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

This post was a direct referral to Post #134, if you take offense to this why didn't you say that to Awareness? Why do you wait 26 posts to all of a sudden take issue? This is hypocrisy.

Because awareness did not mock me in the process.

ZNPaaneah · 09-02-2011, 07:52 AM

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Because awareness did not mock me in the process.

Refer to post #152 by OBW "I sort of want to misquote a John Houseman line and say "Mister ZNP, here is a dime. Take it, call your mother, and tell her there is serious doubt about you ever becoming a teacher of the Bible."

You mock me. Now you are complaining that someone is mocking you as a response?:verysad:

As I said, hypocrisy.

awareness · 09-02-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

This post was a direct referral to Post #134, if you take offense to this why didn't you say that to Awareness? Why do you wait 26 posts to all of a sudden take issue? This is hypocrisy.

Because the way I used it, it is a term of endearment. It's wasn't derogatory.

ZNPaaneah · 09-02-2011, 08:27 AM

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Because the way I used it, it is a term of endearment. It's wasn't derogatory.

Then why does he consider my use of it derogatory? Again, this is hypocrisy.

You used OBW to refer to OBi Wan, so did I. OBW quoted John Houseman who ironically has dressed up in Star Wars outfits on TV. Mocking Houseman as also being a Jedi knight is not mocking OBW. 2 references to Star wars in one post is more than enough to warrant a Star Wars question.

You two are extremely thin skinned.

awareness · 09-02-2011, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

OBi Wan has spoken and turns out that John Houseman is also a Jedi knight? Is this what the guys at the Star Wars conventions dream about, being a teacher of the Bible?

[Z's Jedi mind trick, with wave of hand] : "The book of Job is about God building a New Man."

ZNPaaneah · 09-02-2011, 07:39 AM

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The book of Job is about God building a New Man.

I had to clean it up for you a little, but now you got it.