Lee Ws A Mindbender For Profit

One of Lee’s major problems with how he presented his ministry is that he hyper-focuses on certain doctrines and completely ignores other things in the word of God

For instance they NEVER talk about giving to the poor. Never. Which results in them not actually giving to the poor. They don’t help the poor and sick amongst them. All the tithe money goes to the meeting hall or to publications or to help the ministry in some way, or to buy land for more meeting halls so they can make more money. And I’m sure Lee’s extended family are well taken care of. I doubt any of them have to work and probably the same with Nee’s extended family, and probably the “blended” brothers as well and their extended family. Imagine the grift here. What a long con! They’re just syphoning out money for their own purposes

They rarely talk about love or kindness or sharing or really just anything else besides their key main talking points. And these points they constantly repeat over and over again. What’s the result? The result is that they lack love

To me this is one of the most obvious signs of the local churches being a cult

The local churches have very poor relationships with one another, and they have poor relationships with themselves in the sense that Lee’s ministry has occupied their entire mind and really he’s gotten so far into their mentalities that he controls their behavior. You start to think like Lee thinks, you start to subconsciously behave according to the behavior mold in his writings. It’s really insidious. Eventually you just lose your own identity and autonomy. And one can’t help but think that this is exactly what Lee wanted. He constantly talked about “blending away differences,” which doesn’t get much more culty than that. He was psychologically programming his followers; he was “mindbending”

I like that term ‘mindbenders,’ it really is very fitting for what Nee and Lee produced

The man just wanted to be worshipped. He wanted to control a large group of people and turn them into a replication of himself. What do you call that? Is that mental illness? Is it delusions of grandeur? Or is he just a cult leader? Behind the scenes Lee was not who he presented himself as. He was a money lover who wanted to get rich, and eventually succeeded around the late seventies and early eighties. A leading brother who left wrote a letter claiming that in 1979 Lee was making one million dollars a year as the CEO of Living Stream Ministry. This was coming off of the Daystar debacle. LSM had to start charging for trainings after the debacle in order to pay back the members who gave their life savings for Daystar. This is fraud. He paid back the saints with their own tithe money and then proceeded to get rich off of charging for ministry materials and trainings. No wonder they have so many trainings 🙄

Someone elsewhere claimed that LSM is now worth $100 million dollars total. If that’s the case we have to ask ourselves why did the leading brothers never pay back some of the saints who gave their savings for Daystar and lost all their money? This tells you a lot about the local church leadership and their character

And again, how much of Nee and Lee’s ministry is actually theirs, and how much did they steal from the Christian writers and speakers before them?

Funny that even today the “blended” brothers just rehash things Lee said in their own words. There’s no need to talk about anything else besides “God’s economy” as Lee defined it. I mean come on how controlling and culty is that. Even in their prophesying they are taught to only speak what Lee spoke, verbatim if possible. Lee said he wanted everyone to be “Witness Lee typewriters”

So you just have a bunch of people walking around pretending to act like Witness Lee. Little Lee duplications, like the local church is a Witness Lee replication factory. What’s the cost of that? The cost is their mental health and their personal identity

So it’s pretty much become a culture to just mindlessly repeat what everyone else is repeating. I mean seriously how obvious does it have to get before people realize it’s a cult?

Very sad that people are losing years of their lives to this system

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One of Lee’s major problems with how he presented his ministry is that he hyper-focuses on certain doctrines and completely ignores other things in the word of God

For instance they NEVER talk about giving to the poor. Never. Which results in them not actually giving to the poor. They don’t help the poor and sick amongst them. All the tithe money goes to the meeting hall or to publications or to help the ministry in some way, or to buy land for more meeting halls so they can make more money. And I’m sure Lee’s extended family are well taken care of. I doubt any of them have to work and probably the same with Nee’s extended family, and probably the “blended” brothers as well and their extended family. Imagine the grift here. What a long con! They’re just syphoning out money for their own purposes

They rarely talk about love or kindness or sharing or really just anything else besides their key main talking points. And these points they constantly repeat over and over again. What’s the result? The result is that they lack love
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I think this why there's such an effort on campuses. First 18 year old students for the most part have not completely matured in adulthood and are easily manipulated through "love-bombing". Secondly a locality would benefit more financially from a college graduate once they've entered into the work force. Take for example the Puget Sound region, localities there would rather have an engineer from boeing than a construction worker. Even better if you get one from the campus work who's a pre-med student. He/She might become a medical doctor, a dentist, or a specialist.
I firmly believe some localities have enough members tithing money, why not focus on the less fortunate members instead of allocating to LSM? "Poor poor Christianity" does it.
James 2:14-16
What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it?

That's the attitude I see in local churches. Rare times I do visit, I see more older saints than I do younger saints. Ones I remember from my youth are now in retirement, when they have hardships in housing, food, etc, saying "I'll pray for you sister" or "call on the Lord three times" is the same as in James “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,”.

Where is the love for brothers and sisters?
James 2:18
"But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”

Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds."
Show your love through your deeds. Many of us have spent years in the local churches and have heard many condescending words when it comes to "deeds", but choose to have faith without deeds.

I come to 1 Corinthians 13:1-3
If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

I have said this before, in the local churches I have seen many "a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal", but not love.