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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I guess I should have expected this non-answer “answer”, if I can put it in those terms. I have seen this methods for years, you take a shot at someone and when they ask you to explain yourself, you just say “let’s pray about it, it’s all about the members, or the body” as we all have heard many times. The blended are the pros at this systematic practice. I won’t persist, I’ll just know this for future references.

I call BS on this post. I took a “shot” at no one, least of all some poster(s) too cowardly even to register anonymously on this forum.

First you complain that I post too much, then you level a host of complaints about me, playing games calling me a “spiritual scientist” that must separate leaven from flour.

I supported all my points with scripture, you however merely troll.

Register and behave yourself, or go elsewhere.

[UntoHim]

Calling a new poster "cowardly". Wow, that should help bolster our membership

Ohio, he/she didn't complain about you posting too much, he was merely making an observation, and was also wondering why after all those posts it was kind of hard to understand where you're coming from. Maybe given a little more time he'll catch on.

Yes, you posted some scriptures in your "rebuttal", but for the most part it was difficult to link the scriptures you posted to the points you were making. I tried to point this out to you in my rebuttal to your rebuttal in post #135

As far as your quip "behave yourself or go elsewhere"....sorry, but we already have two moderators on this forum.
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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Ohio, he/she didn't complain about you posting too much, he was merely making an observation, and was also wondering why after all those posts it was kind of hard to understand where you're coming from. Maybe given a little more time he'll catch on.

Yes, you posted some scriptures in your "rebuttal", but for the most part it was difficult to link the scriptures you posted to the points you were making. I tried to point this out to you in my rebuttal to your rebuttal in post #135
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Ok, without more info, I don’t know whether “unregistered” was a single he, single she, or multiple posters. So I do think it’s kind of cowardly to post that way, kind of like yelling from a crowd of masked protesters.

I don’t think any of my comments were “hard to understand where I’m coming from.” I have repeatedly voiced my concerns about past members who have left the faith when they departed from the LC. Hence all my comments about testing, discerning, and clinging to the faith and the word of God. Isn’t that our common mission here on the forum, brother, to have a healthy Christian walk post-LC?

Jesus warned His disciples to “beware of the leaven of the Pharisees.” Did they lecture Jesus about how difficult it was to separate leaven from flour? Why do you think Jesus would say this to the apostles? I admit Jesus’ comments here are not simplistic, but I personally think His instruction is important for all of us leaving abusive, legalistic systems. This line of reasoning and testing has helped me and others in the past.

I have said a lot more along these lines in my past posts. Perhaps my posts were too brief to properly be understood. Perhaps my “short, quick, living, to the point,” posts need more explanation at times. What do you think? I admit that I prefer many short posts to fewer lengthy posts, but both have drawbacks.

[Trapped]

The video on handling abuse and covering gross sins (here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6ILgfyRzuU) is still making me shake my head in wonder.

Basically:

1. King David committed murder and adultery, and Witness Lee actually teaches that David's son was killed because the son dared rebel against a deputy authority who committed these gross sins (as if God protects and supports leaders who kill and cheat? and never mind that's not what the Bible says about why his son was killed)

2. People read this in the ministry and say "whoa, this ministry teaches that leaders' gross sins should be covered! That's not okay!"

3. The co-workers respond, "Witness Lee never taught that in the Life Study! YOU are abusing his ministry!"

4. Even though it is there for all to see in the Life Study that Witness Lee really did teach this and Witness Lee is the one misrepresenting the Bible!

5. And now we've got more than one layer of lies. But their own sick system means that anyone who stands up and shows the co-workers are liars will THEMSELVES be considered to be "exposing sins of deputy authority" and so the truth tellers are put in the position of standing against God's threats on their life (as taught by the ministry) or not doing anything and letting what has become MULTIPLE LAYERS of lies go unchallenged! Not to mention the victims from the initial lie are still going unsupported and uncared for!

When the Bible says things like "systems of error", boy, it sure know what it's talking about doesn't it?!

The co-workers are not some space cadets who are just blissfully ignorant. They are totally constituted with Witness Lee's ministry and yet publicly lie about what THEY KNOW IT SAYS to the very people who also know what his ministry says!

It's mind spinning.

(Oh, but don't worry, they have another lie for that -- just get out of your mind! Then everything, including all their lies, will be okay!) Unbelievable!

Trapped