Please Keep Benson Phillips and his Family in your Thoughts and Prayers

[Zezima]

Originally Posted by Nell

Here is a July 9 video announcement about Ron:
https://www.lsm.org/announcements/


Benson is President of Living Stream Ministry.

Thanks for that video. Benson isn’t involved with speaking much, what does the president do?

Also, how long does the Recovery go on once people with direct contact to lee start to pas away?

[Timotheist]

Originally Posted by Zezima

Thanks for that video. Benson isn’t involved with speaking much, what does the president do?

Also, how long does the Recovery go on once people with direct contact to lee start to pas away?

Back in the '80s, Benson was sort of a regional super-elder for the Texas/Oklahoma sector. At first he was more a preacher than a leader. But he definitely seemed to flourish as an 'attorney general' whenever a rebellion happened. My most imprinted memories of him is when he came into town to lay down the law.

W. Lee died several years after I left, but I gather that Benson was very instrumental in the forming of the "blended brothers". He went on a tour asking for all the elders to sign an oath to stay in one accord with the MOTA.

Now I must caveat all of this with the fact I was a high school/college student during this time, so I am certain my description above could use some improvements.

In fact, I would like to read corrective responses, just so I can make the proper adjustments to my perceptions.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Timotheist

W. Lee died several years after I left, but I gather that Benson was very instrumental in the forming of the "blended brothers". He went on a tour asking for all the elders to sign an oath to stay in one accord with the MOTA.

The original "oath" BP and RG promoted was during an Elders Conf in ~ Feb 1986. There are many posts on the forum concerning this event.

[UntoHim]

According to sources at LSM, Benson Phillips passed away last night. Announcements regarding a memorial meeting will be forthcoming soon.
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Originally Posted by UntoHim

According to sources at LSM, Benson Phillips passed away last night. Announcements regarding a memorial meeting will be forthcoming soon.
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Isn’t this man claimed out loud and bragged that he is god? I guess even those self proclaimed deities see their end one day!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/xDfjhKwnk64o/

[Trapped]

Again, I'll just say it. Benson's passing does not give me any joy. I would rather he was still alive, and I know just how much he has wounded some people. Just as God does not desire that anyone perish, I also try to hope for the real kind of "recovery" of a person who has gone astray the way the co-workers have, while they are alive. There are those in the local church who rejoice upon the death of those who they consider "opposers". I do not want to be that kind of person.

His kids and grandkids just lost their father/grandfather. But this is also someone who followed Witness Lee in absolute allegiance and is part of the group of "leaders" who demand that everyone else does too, under threat of being destroyed and losing everything, wrecking people for decades with that kind of rhetoric. I genuinely do not know how to parse through the conflicted feelings.

Trapped

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Trapped

But this is also someone who followed Witness Lee in absolute allegiance and is part of the group of "leaders" who demand that everyone else does too, under threat of being destroyed and losing everything, wrecking people for decades with that kind of rhetoric. I genuinely do not know how to parse through the conflicted feelings.

Trapped

BP send his minions into the Midwest LC’s, and using the teachings of WL, divided every church.

[GraceAlone]

Originally Posted by Trapped

Again, I'll just say it. Benson's passing does not give me any joy. I would rather he was still alive, and I know just how much he has wounded some people. Just as God does not desire that anyone perish, I also try to hope for the real kind of "recovery" of a person who has gone astray the way the co-workers have, while they are alive. There are those in the local church who rejoice upon the death of those who they consider "opposers". I do not want to be that kind of person.

His kids and grandkids just lost their father/grandfather. But this is also someone who followed Witness Lee in absolute allegiance and is part of the group of "leaders" who demand that everyone else does too, under threat of being destroyed and losing everything, wrecking people for decades with that kind of rhetoric. I genuinely do not know how to parse through the conflicted feelings.

Trapped

Beautifully articulated, Trapped. Thanks for putting into words what others of us are feeling.

Originally Posted by Trapped

Again, I'll just say it. Benson's passing does not give me any joy. I would rather he was still alive, and I know just how much he has wounded some people. Just as God does not desire that anyone perish, I also try to hope for the real kind of "recovery" of a person who has gone astray the way the co-workers have, while they are alive. There are those in the local church who rejoice upon the death of those who they consider "opposers". I do not want to be that kind of person.

His kids and grandkids just lost their father/grandfather. But this is also someone who followed Witness Lee in absolute allegiance and is part of the group of "leaders" who demand that everyone else does too, under threat of being destroyed and losing everything, wrecking people for decades with that kind of rhetoric. I genuinely do not know how to parse through the conflicted feelings.

Trapped

I can see some of your points Trapped, I just don’t have the same amount of grace to these people that have been destroying peoples lives for decades. I don’t have the “feelings” to say that I want them dead, no I don’t. But let me say this, I pray God destroys this system utterly and totally, and if it comes with some of the man that hold this tight grip on these people vanishing away, let it be so. I’ll take 10 lives of people being restored and build up, over a life of a person that’s a tool for destruction. That’s as simple as it can be. Sorry if that’s harsh or not compassionate. Maybe his kids and grandkids will actually have an opportunity to experience God, and His unconditional love, which their dad and grandpa stood in the way of it even being considered, let alone experienced.

[Nell]

Originally Posted by Trapped

Again, I'll just say it. Benson's passing does not give me any joy. I would rather he was still alive, and I know just how much he has wounded some people. Just as God does not desire that anyone perish, I also try to hope for the real kind of "recovery" of a person who has gone astray the way the co-workers have, while they are alive. There are those in the local church who rejoice upon the death of those who they consider "opposers". I do not want to be that kind of person.

His kids and grandkids just lost their father/grandfather. But this is also someone who followed Witness Lee in absolute allegiance and is part of the group of "leaders" who demand that everyone else does too, under threat of being destroyed and losing everything, wrecking people for decades with that kind of rhetoric. I genuinely do not know how to parse through the conflicted feelings.

Trapped

Trapped,

I guess the thing I'm most grateful for is that those who have passed away are in the Lord's hands and not mine. I have the same mixed feelings you described, and in a way, I think that's a healthy thing. After all, we are all the Lord's children...brothers and sisters.

Death has been described as the "great equalizer", I think, because of this verse:

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

So we all have an appointment with the "righteous judge". I'm grateful that the righteous judge will make all things right.


Nell

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Isn’t this man claimed out loud and bragged that he is god? I guess even those self proclaimed deities see their end one day!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/xDfjhKwnk64o/

Did BP ever reconcile with Jane and John Anderson?