Recovery Bible = Corrupted Word Of God!

[Paul Vusik]

Originally Posted by Bible-believer

Here is another one:

Matt. 1:25 KJV
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

NASV, RV, ...
RV: And he did not know her until she bore a son. And he called His name Jesus.
NASV: but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he named Him Jesus.


Why the NASV has removed the word “firstborn” from Matthew 1:25, we may strongly suspect "somebody" of trying to help the Pope out with his bunco about “the perpetual virginity of Mary” (and Joseph!).

Yet no matter how and what help, the Mary of the Bible and the Mary of Roman Catholicism are as far apart as the missionary “Patricius” of Britain and the "St. Patrick" of the Irish Republican Army.

Bible-believer,

The truth is that all new Bible translations are currently doing this to achieve one Bible version that will be approved by all groups and denominations. It’s been going on for 60 years. They slowly insert Catholic doctrines into a text.
And here is another example of that


James 5:16
King James Version

16. Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

RV
16. Therefore confess your sins to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed. The petition of a righteous man avails much in its working.


As far as I’m concerned, the only being that I would confess my sins to, is God himself. No man! That’s another slow introduction of these heresies into regular Bible by the WBS to get everyone used to these practices and eventually the take over to one religion.

[Bible-believer]

Originally Posted by Paul Vusik

Bible-believer,

The truth is that all new Bible translations are currently doing this to achieve one Bible version that will be approved by all groups and denominations. It’s been going on for 60 years. They slowly insert Catholic doctrines into a text.
And here is another example of that


James 5:16
King James Version

16. Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

RV
16. Therefore confess your sins to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed. The petition of a righteous man avails much in its working.


As far as I’m concerned, the only being that I would confess my sins to, is God himself. No man! That’s another slow introduction of these heresies into regular Bible by the WBS to get everyone used to these practices and eventually the take over to one religion.

Indeed! All so-called "new translations" have the puppetmaster， Roman Catholics， behind them.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Paul Vusik

The truth is that all new Bible translations are currently doing this to achieve one Bible version that will be approved by all groups and denominations. It’s been going on for 60 years. They slowly insert Catholic doctrines into a text.
And here is another example of that

James 5:16
King James Version: Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed.

RecV: Therefore confess your sins to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed.

As far as I’m concerned, the only being that I would confess my sins to, is God himself. No man! That’s another slow introduction of these heresies into regular Bible by the WBS to get everyone used to these practices and eventually the take over to one religion.

In a similar vein, John 20.23 has always troubled me, being a former Catholic, and I actually think the KJV is better on this verse.

Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

This horrible heresy surrounding the forgiveness of sins found only in the confessional was used by Rome to manipulate kings and extract fortunes.

[Paul Vusik]

Originally Posted by Ohio

This horrible heresy surrounding the forgiveness of sins found only in the confessional was used by Rome to manipulate kings and extract fortunes.

Wait, you mean like asking people for donations in order to get the “clear vision”, and the highest form of “truths”? Do you mean that if you stay with “the church”, you will be properly cared for, even to be the only group of “overcomes”? And while you focus on these crumbs of “reality”, they built themselves a $100 million dollar empire, while collecting six figure incomes for the top brass?

Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, that’s all I got to say on that one.

[Zezima]

Originally Posted by Paul Vusik

Wait, you mean like asking people for donations in order to get the “clear vision”, and the highest form of “truths”? Do you mean that if you stay with “the church”, you will be properly cared for, even to be the only group of “overcomes”? And while you focus on these crumbs of “reality”, they built themselves a $100 million dollar empire, while collecting six figure incomes for the top brass?

Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, that’s all I got to say on that one.

Those are some really interesting parallel I have considered. I’m assuming that in the Catholic Church those practices are written, while in the Recovery they are implied.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Paul Vusik

Wait, you mean like asking people for donations in order to get the “clear vision”, and the highest form of “truths”? Do you mean that if you stay with “the church”, you will be properly cared for, even to be the only group of “overcomes”? And while you focus on these crumbs of “reality”, they built themselves a $100 million dollar empire, while collecting six figure incomes for the top brass?

Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, that’s all I got to say on that one.

Apostle Paul said, "we are not like the many, peddling the word of God for profit." -- 2 Cor 2.17

[Paul Vusik]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Another verse that was used to promote this false practice is 1st John 1:9, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." This erroneous teaching is saying that confession = propitiation. But previously in verse 5 it shows the blood is what provides that propitiation: "If we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin."

And this passage is talking about being in fellowship. Being in fellowship means being transparent and not hiding our sin against another (as Adam & Eve immediately tried to do). We are to be open about it, but the blood of Christ has already been shed and done it's work in taking care of the propitiation part, therefore we can just confess without fear. However, the RC was all about using fear to control, so they turned this into a system of confession to official Church "priests."

StG,
I personally don’t see any problems with nether 1 John 1:9, or 1:7 (I think you quoted verse 7 there).

In 1:9, it’s referred to us coming to the Lord, and asking Him to forgive us and cleanse us with His blood. That’s the only way that we can get cleansed, if we ask for forgiveness. It’s not an automatic process that just happens by you existing or “calling on the name”. Just my opinion, and belief.

In 1:7, the verse is very clear about the steps to even have fellowship. As the first part of that verse states, “But if we should walk in the light as He is in the light,…”, means that even before you can have fellowship with one another, one must be walking in the light. We go to Him for cleansing, and get together for fellowship. He cleanses us with His blood, not we cleanse each other. Having fellowship about our sins, does nothing but brings death and despair. Having fellowship about Him, and what He has done for me, and cleansed me with His precious blood, when I go into His light and walk in His light, then that sweet rejoicing for what He has accomplished and done for us, brings us into the true oneness and fellowship, and not uniformity. Again, my view on these verses.


I know people will twist these verses to imply that confession is to the “church”, or “priest”, or even to each other. I personally don’t and won’t be a participant of those kind of “fellowships”, if you can call them that.


Thanks

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Paul Vusik

StG,
I personally don’t see any problems with nether 1 John 1:9, or 1:7 (I think you quoted verse 7 there).

You are, of course, right - it was 1:7. Thanks for the correction!

[manoel_463]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

You are, of course, right - it was 1:7. Thanks for the correction!

I wanted to extend this topic to these authors by asking a question; Has anyone heard of a translation that has recently appeared, and its story, the translation "According to the Family 35". Who already has something to say?

[Paul Vusik]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Apostle Paul said, "we are not like the many, peddling the word of God for profit." -- 2 Cor 2.17

“Lots of Stolen Money”


I’m really not sure if they are aware of the fact that copyrighting something that doesn’t belong to you is punishable by laws even in this world. I can’t imagine doing so with God’s free gifts, and thinking that it will be OK. I very much doubt that He will be accepting refunds in the future. And by the way, they’re not the only once doing this, just to be clear.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Ohio

In a similar vein, John 20.23 has always troubled me, being a former Catholic, and I actually think the KJV is better on this verse.

Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

This horrible heresy surrounding the forgiveness of sins found only in the confessional was used by Rome to manipulate kings and extract fortunes.

Another verse that was used to promote this false practice is 1st John 1:9, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." This erroneous teaching is saying that confession = propitiation. But previously in verse 5 it shows the blood is what provides that propitiation: "If we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin."

And this passage is talking about being in fellowship. Being in fellowship means being transparent and not hiding our sin against another (as Adam & Eve immediately tried to do). We are to be open about it, but the blood of Christ has already been shed and done it's work in taking care of the propitiation part, therefore we can just confess without fear. However, the RC was all about using fear to control, so they turned this into a system of confession to official Church "priests."