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Old 04-06-2022, 09:54 AM   #1
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DCP Stands for "Defense and Confirmation Project" and was recently the subject of a blog post from shepherdingwords.com. A website used by "The Lord's Recovery" movement to "address rumors".

Here is a link to the DCP Post

Below are quotes pulled directly from that post that highlight the reality of this "Project"

Reason for establishment:

Quote:
“When opposition to the Lord’s ministry in His recovery damaged the Lord’s move through the local churches in the late 1970s, Brother Lee called brothers together to consider how to respond.”
Interesting, “The Lord’s move” can be damaged by man, the very thing He created?


Quote:
“The Defense & Confirmation Project (DCP) was established to “defend and confirm the New Testament ministry of Watchman Nee and Witness Lee and the practice of the local churches.””
Further in the article:

Quote:
“DCP is incorporated as a 501(c)(3) entity and is not a part of LSM. It operates under the oversight of the co-workers, and whatever it produces for publication is sent to one or more editors in the editorial section of Living Stream Ministry (LSM) for review.”
Living Stream Ministry, founded by Witness Lee, publishes the works of Witness Lee & Watchman Nee. Defending these works is the reason DCP was established (as stated in the article).

While legally separate, their mission statement is to defend and confirm the works Living Stream Ministry publishes.

Quote:
“Misrepresentations or twisting others’ words are by nature works of darkness and unrighteousness. In contrast, DCP endeavors to demonstrate that the ministry in the Lord’s recovery cuts straight the word of the truth”
What ministry is in the Lord’s Recovery? Living Stream Ministry. There’s a published work called “PUBLICATION WORK
IN THE LORD’S RECOVERY
” explaining that the “Lord’s Recovery” will only subscribe to Living Stream Ministry. Here’s a direct quote:

Quote:
“Today we must be diligent to continue this practice of the trumpeting in the one publication in a practical way through the publication service of Living Stream Ministry...”
Quote:
All the saints and all the churches everywhere should similarly be restricted in one publication in the Lord’s recovery
To summarize: DCP was established to defend the works of Lee and Nee. These works are published only by Living Stream Ministry (founded by Witness Lee). This ministry states that the Lord’s Recovery must use only one publication, that publication? Living Stream Ministry.


The Lord’s Recovery distinguishes itself from Christians:

Quote:
“To remove such books from circulation is a service not only to the Lord’s recovery but to the Christian public..”

DCP Keeps files on people.

Quote:
“DCP also has files related to various controversies and to subjects of interest…”
If you speak critically, they file what you say.

Quote:
“None of this is nefarious. Fashioning appropriate responses is dependent on accurate records concerning historical events and what has been said and by whom.”
Let’s recap, DCP’s mission is to defend the works of Lee & Nee. They keep files on what people said, so they can “fashion appropriate responses”. It would appear they keep files on anyone who speaks critically of those works.

DCP fights and defends the ministry of Nee & Lee

Quote:
“DCP’s charge is to both fight directly and to equip the saints to affirm and defend the full scope of the New Testament revelation concerning God’s economy as it has been brought to us through the ministry of Watchman Nee and Witness Lee.”

Closing:

While legally not associated with Living Stream Ministry, this organization works to fight and defend them. Their claims about being separate are smoke & mirrors to hide the reality, that stated by them is to defend Nee & Lee’s works.

They keep files on those who speak critically against Living Stream Ministry, they litigate Christians outside the recovery, and ensure that the Lord’s Recovery subscribed to one publication.

Please pray that God would open the eyes of those stuck in this controlling, dangerous system.

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Old 04-07-2022, 09:53 AM   #2
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Zezima,
Great investigative and informative post. I won’t even go and read that stuff, makes me want to throw up reading them foam at anyone that won’t fall in line. So I appreciate your taking time and posting it in this way.

After reading your post, and doing some checking on public information regarding the business, this is just a “legal” way of money siphoning/image control. They don’t want LSM name or local churches to be in the limelight, so by creating another entity they are trying to eliminate that possibility for future. They don’t want what happened in the 70s/80s, to reveal their true identity to the public. Almost all big corporations, dictatorial governments, use this tactics to have a mouthpiece for them in the public arena, under different names, basically to run PR\legal defense. All funded by the same corporate money, just diverted under grants and charitable contributions.

So in order to look decent, and not have to answer to, why does the church, especially the one that’s called “Tha church”, and is the only entity in this world that God speaks thru and operating in according to them need a full time defense team? As if God needs to defend His move? One just has to put 2+2 together, and it doesn’t equal 5 as they trying to make you believe. It’s a very deceptive scene to cover up what’s going on within. It’s all about Benjamin’s, and they sure have a way to manipulate the system to their advantage:

1) take money from people thru donations of the local churches (which are 501(c)3 corps), under the cover of “lords move on earth”
2) since it’s all about the “earth”, funds are diverted to the headquarters, and the local community gets left behind, other than some real estate improvements to raise the values of the property owned, and maybe pay some stipends to true devotees.
3) Purchase real estate and register it to LSM, which is also a 501(c)3 corporation. (Over $100 million in assets as of 2019 IRS filling, and probably doubled or triple that with current market)
4) create another fraudulent tax free shelter in DCP. (501(c)3 Corp), which is most likely funded by LSM, or other creative corps associated with them, using grands and charitable donations.
5) hire more cronies to search out and keep logs of files under the cover of “defense” (almost $500.000 was spent in 2018 on salaries and wages, according to IRS fillings)
6) have them fill their time writing on websites like shepherdingwords, and maybe come onto forums like these as an apologist for their spiritual authorities, like “Unregistered Guests”, with no names attached.
7) then go after anyone that speaks out against them, by all means, and legally thru courts if necessary. And guess who covers those legal fees and salaries of their full time legal defense team?

Sounds like a family business to me, or an exclusive self appointed club. I wonder what the initiation fee is to join? I would guess it’s selling your soul for the image of Lee. That’s sure isn’t moving God’s plan, more like a page from CCP manefesto, on how to conquer the world one deception at a time.

Couple of years ago, I did quite a bit of research on 501(c)3 status that’s 99% of churches in USA belong to. It’s completely not what these man claim that it’s for, and the reason that you hear almost nothing when it comes to a lot of issues facing the churches, family, marriages, children, education etc, it’s by design. As it is written:
1 Timothy 6:10
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“For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”


Oh God, open the eyes of people to see this system for what it is, and let them experience Real Gods move!
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Old 04-07-2022, 02:04 PM   #3
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The "founder" of the DCP, Dan Towle of Fullerton, left the Recovery years ago in silence.

Apparently the back story has yet to be told.
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A few years ago we were told he was having medical issues. That may have just been a cover up.
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A few years ago we were told he was having medical issues. That may have just been a cover up.
I wasn’t around then, but didn’t DT just abruptly vanish, never to return?

Doesn’t sound like “medical issues,” unless those include a sudden change of heart, an enlightening of the spirit, and a sober repentance of mind.

I loved DT. I think he woke up one day and realized he’d been had. Happened to many of us. This is how the Lord proves His grace really is all sufficient.
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I wasn’t around then, but didn’t DT just abruptly vanish, never to return?

Doesn’t sound like “medical issues,” unless those include a sudden change of heart, an enlightening of the spirit, and a sober repentance of mind.

I loved DT. I think he woke up one day and realized he’d been had. Happened to many of us. This is how the Lord proves His grace really is all sufficient.
Dan Towle wrote a comment on LinkedIn last month replying to a post and wrote (in part),

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"... It is so good to connect with you and see how you have matured and developed since I knew you in my LC days. I am a long way from that now but I am with the Lord in ways more mature and enlightened".
That's the most public explanation of his departure I've seen to date.
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I wonder if they keep files on usernames from this forum..
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I wonder if they keep files on usernames from this forum..
They do. Over time, as you drop a locality here, drop a name there, drop an event or situation you were part of there.....they will gather it all up and try to identify who you are. Or if they can figure out who might know you and who might be able to figure out your identity from the mash of information they've collected, they'll go that route.

Clearly a stellar use of the saints' hard-earned money

DCP serving ones, maybe this post of mine can be the point where you stop and prayerfully reconsider your life choices before the Lord.....

Ah, wishful thinking I guess.

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Zezima - also, great breakdown of the smoke and mirrors deception game the co-workers continue to try to play.

As far as I'm concerned, their articles are becoming more and more egregious as they do their best to put lids on the ever-growing fires popping up. Some of the stuff recently just may end up having the opposite effect they think they are having. The complete lack of accountability they are showing they want to have is becoming more and more clear.
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Dan Towle wrote a comment on LinkedIn last month replying to a post and wrote (in part),

That's the most public explanation of his departure I've seen to date.
The LinkedIn article linked above, and commented on by DT, was highly informative concerning the current war in Ukraine. I likened it to the Midwest quarantines - both Anaheim and Cleveland claimed long-standing historical “ownership” of the Midwest LC’s. Neither accepted our church sovereignty or independence from their assumed controls as our “brothers.”

The father of the author was one of the 3 original migrating elders in the LC in Columbus, Ohio.
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I wonder if they keep files on usernames from this forum..
And a few of us are fairly easy to figure out. My posts over the years have provided a treasure trove of information. Starting with my general location and things about my family, several of which are still part of the LC.
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DCP Stands for "Defense and Confirmation Project" and was recently the subject of a blog post from shepherdingwords.com. A website used by "The Lord's Recovery" movement to "address rumors".

Here is a link to the DCP Post

Below are quotes pulled directly from that post that highlight the reality of this "Project"

Reason for establishment:



Interesting, “The Lord’s move” can be damaged by man, the very thing He created?




Further in the article:



Living Stream Ministry, founded by Witness Lee, publishes the works of Witness Lee & Watchman Nee. Defending these works is the reason DCP was established (as stated in the article).

While legally separate, their mission statement is to defend and confirm the works Living Stream Ministry publishes.



What ministry is in the Lord’s Recovery? Living Stream Ministry. There’s a published work called “PUBLICATION WORK
IN THE LORD’S RECOVERY
” explaining that the “Lord’s Recovery” will only subscribe to Living Stream Ministry. Here’s a direct quote:





To summarize: DCP was established to defend the works of Lee and Nee. These works are published only by Living Stream Ministry (founded by Witness Lee). This ministry states that the Lord’s Recovery must use only one publication, that publication? Living Stream Ministry.


The Lord’s Recovery distinguishes itself from Christians:




DCP Keeps files on people.



If you speak critically, they file what you say.



Let’s recap, DCP’s mission is to defend the works of Lee & Nee. They keep files on what people said, so they can “fashion appropriate responses”. It would appear they keep files on anyone who speaks critically of those works.

DCP fights and defends the ministry of Nee & Lee




Closing:

While legally not associated with Living Stream Ministry, this organization works to fight and defend them. Their claims about being separate are smoke & mirrors to hide the reality, that stated by them is to defend Nee & Lee’s works.

They keep files on those who speak critically against Living Stream Ministry, they litigate Christians outside the recovery, and ensure that the Lord’s Recovery subscribed to one publication.

Please pray that God would open the eyes of those stuck in this controlling, dangerous system.

All of these practices are identical to what Scientology. How can you read this blog post and not see that this group is a high control group?
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