I AM SICK AND TIRED

My name is Noah, I have been in the LC from my teenage years to now late twenties. After reading recent post regarding the social issues, I just wanted to vent on some things I am tired of in the local churches, lets get straight to it.

As a working adult, who works a lot of hours and is constantly berated on how I need to "fellowship more", "spend more time with the brothers", "attend more meetings and conferences", and just many more demands. I am sick and tired of all these serving ones and elders who are funded by people like me, to sit around, run their mouth, and eat lots of food along with a ton of guitar playing. You know you have a job because of the working saint right and all the free time you have to run your mouth, play guitar, and eat a bunch of food, is because of working saints like me right?

I have responsibilities and I have a lot of things I need to take care of. I have a career that lots of hours, a person I am dating and is really developing a fantastic relationship with, family members and close ones I need to spend time with and not NEGLECT. I have so much on my plate, even knowing all this, I am constantly told attend all meetings, conferences, and more "spending time with the brothers". Like I just want to tell them I am not a teenager anymore, my life revolves around much more than "spending time with the brothers". I am not some kid who just has a bunch of free time and no responsibilities, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD SAINTS.

Also the constant reminders of getting with the brothers, I just want to say. "Spending time with the brothers can get old sometimes". I go a brothers house and we eat food and sing hymns and get into the ministry. As other people have said on this forum, the robotic repetition of the gatherings/fellowship just becomes deadened to me. You sing the same hymns, repeat the same ministry, the food is good but I have good food in my home that is waiting to be eaten. If the all these events and meetings were just friendly invitations that I can just kindly decline, then I would be just fine. But the constant guilt tripping and subtle shaming is just ridiculous. I don't know what to say but- I AM A BUSY ADULT WITH RESPONSIBILITIES TO FULFILL.

This is the most hectic and busiest part of my life, I am in my late twenties, I am seeing someone I actually care about and have a fantastic relationship with. We definitely see each other engaging and marrying in the near future. I would like to settle down, have kids, get a mortgage, and ACTUALLY SPEND TIME AND RAISE MY KIDS AS A PARENT AND NOT NEGLECT THEM FOR THE SAKE OF REPETITIVE AND MINDLESS MEETINGS".

The main reason I went out of the LC for finding a wife is because I just couldn't stand having my whole personal life revolving around the many symptoms and damaging factors of the LC. I was not interested in the possible courtship/arrangement at all, nothing persona I just did not care one bit. Can imagine having a wedding and thinking inside your head, "I could care less about this person I am putting a ring on". Sounds terrible, so I did everyone a favor and just took my dating life outside the LC since its a big no no inside the LC. Its fantastic having that part of your life outside the LC, you can breathe and not be suffocated the demands of the LC that are just repetitive, draining, and even lifeless sometimes.

I saw a post recently on how lots of brothers just see their wives as breeding machines and dont really care to have a genuine and meaningful relationships with their WIVES. Dont get me started on everything I have read on ex church kids and their lack of a happy and healthy relationship with their parents and growing up in the LC overall. I can attest to comments expressing concern about the broken marriages in the LC. No body genuinely loves each other and it definitely does matter for a healthy marriage, especially with kids involved.

This is why I had to get a big chunk of my personal life outside the LC, I was going insane and I just needed to get some nice freedom of peace. I know others must be sick and tired to. Any lurkers or users on here, know where im coming from. I know there must be a considerable amount of people who feel what I feel. I AM AND SICK OF TIRED OF ALL THE NONSENSE WRITTEN ABOVE. This is me venting I hope it was worthy of your time and feel free to share. Share about what you were SICK AND TIRED OF in the LC, whatever it was. I vented and you have the freedom to vent to. Anonymous unregistered user or official account holder, who cares just share. I AM SICK AND TIRED AND IM LETTING ALL OF YOU KNOW. The caps locks helps express my current thoughts of frustration, so hope you dont mind them consistently appearing in this post.

[Robert]

Hi, Noah!
I just found Your post today.
I am glad You share Your experience here.
I was not tired in church live but rather killed by religious saints.
My kids grew up in church life. Only one daughter have still contact with youths. I left (was forgotten) this organisation few years ago.
I understand fully what You feel.
I hope U are doing well and according holly nature given by God into You.
Registering gives a possibility to have a notification on e-mail. So if by chance You read this- write how things are going?
Robert

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by Noah

My name is Noah, I have been in the LC from my teenage years to now late twenties. After reading recent post regarding the social issues, I just wanted to vent on some things I am tired of in the local churches, lets get straight to it.

As a working adult, who works a lot of hours and is constantly berated on how I need to "fellowship more", "spend more time with the brothers", "attend more meetings and conferences", and just many more demands. I am sick and tired of all these serving ones and elders who are funded by people like me, to sit around, run their mouth, and eat lots of food along with a ton of guitar playing. You know you have a job because of the working saint right and all the free time you have to run your mouth, play guitar, and eat a bunch of food, is because of working saints like me right?

I have responsibilities and I have a lot of things I need to take care of. I have a career that lots of hours, a person I am dating and is really developing a fantastic relationship with, family members and close ones I need to spend time with and not NEGLECT. I have so much on my plate, even knowing all this, I am constantly told attend all meetings, conferences, and more "spending time with the brothers". Like I just want to tell them I am not a teenager anymore, my life revolves around much more than "spending time with the brothers". I am not some kid who just has a bunch of free time and no responsibilities, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD SAINTS.

Also the constant reminders of getting with the brothers, I just want to say. "Spending time with the brothers can get old sometimes". I go a brothers house and we eat food and sing hymns and get into the ministry. As other people have said on this forum, the robotic repetition of the gatherings/fellowship just becomes deadened to me. You sing the same hymns, repeat the same ministry, the food is good but I have good food in my home that is waiting to be eaten. If the all these events and meetings were just friendly invitations that I can just kindly decline, then I would be just fine. But the constant guilt tripping and subtle shaming is just ridiculous. I don't know what to say but- I AM A BUSY ADULT WITH RESPONSIBILITIES TO FULFILL.

This is the most hectic and busiest part of my life, I am in my late twenties, I am seeing someone I actually care about and have a fantastic relationship with. We definitely see each other engaging and marrying in the near future. I would like to settle down, have kids, get a mortgage, and ACTUALLY SPEND TIME AND RAISE MY KIDS AS A PARENT AND NOT NEGLECT THEM FOR THE SAKE OF REPETITIVE AND MINDLESS MEETINGS".

The main reason I went out of the LC for finding a wife is because I just couldn't stand having my whole personal life revolving around the many symptoms and damaging factors of the LC. I was not interested in the possible courtship/arrangement at all, nothing persona I just did not care one bit. Can imagine having a wedding and thinking inside your head, "I could care less about this person I am putting a ring on". Sounds terrible, so I did everyone a favor and just took my dating life outside the LC since its a big no no inside the LC. Its fantastic having that part of your life outside the LC, you can breathe and not be suffocated the demands of the LC that are just repetitive, draining, and even lifeless sometimes.

I saw a post recently on how lots of brothers just see their wives as breeding machines and dont really care to have a genuine and meaningful relationships with their WIVES. Dont get me started on everything I have read on ex church kids and their lack of a happy and healthy relationship with their parents and growing up in the LC overall. I can attest to comments expressing concern about the broken marriages in the LC. No body genuinely loves each other and it definitely does matter for a healthy marriage, especially with kids involved.

This is why I had to get a big chunk of my personal life outside the LC, I was going insane and I just needed to get some nice freedom of peace. I know others must be sick and tired to. Any lurkers or users on here, know where im coming from. I know there must be a considerable amount of people who feel what I feel. I AM AND SICK OF TIRED OF ALL THE NONSENSE WRITTEN ABOVE. This is me venting I hope it was worthy of your time and feel free to share. Share about what you were SICK AND TIRED OF in the LC, whatever it was. I vented and you have the freedom to vent to. Anonymous unregistered user or official account holder, who cares just share. I AM SICK AND TIRED AND IM LETTING ALL OF YOU KNOW. The caps locks helps express my current thoughts of frustration, so hope you dont mind them consistently appearing in this post.

Hey fellow church kid, I’m sorry you’re going through so much. Please PM me.
-Your fellow church kid

[Cal]

Hi Noah,

Sounds to me like you should consider spending ALL of your life outside the LC.

Ask yourself, "If I didn't feel like I HAD to stay there, would I?"

If the answer is no, why are you staying?

I think many stay in the LC mainly because that's where their friends are. But it sound like you have no problem making friends. So consider finding a good, bible-based community church and joining a men's group there. There are relationships elsewhere as you already now.

Cal