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Old 10-20-2021, 08:57 PM   #1
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Dear saints in the Lord,
Hebrews 12:26-27, "whose voice then shook the earth; but now he has promised, saying, Yet once will *I* shake not only the earth, but also the heaven. But this Yet once, signifies the removing of what is shaken, as being made, that what is not shaken may remain".

Praise the Lord, because He is "removing of what is shaken, as being made" in the so-called LSM churches in Viet Nam now. Beside there were 6 localities, the saints in these localities meeting outside the LSM, The Lord has raised about 30 young people, who have gone out the LSM churches in Viet Nam. Because the Covid, they are meeting online three times a week-- to breaking bread, Bible study and prayers. They are using only the bible, never use any literature of LSM any more.

In addition, there are two old saints in the south of Viet Nam, who was meeting outside LSM, they had burned many books of LSM. And this young man, who was leading the meetings online, on Google meeting, is preparing to burn a quantity of LSM Vietnamese books to be worth $1000 USD. They did not give these books to the others. They said: we do not transmit the false teachings to the others, they must to be burned.

I myself did not burned any book of LSM, because some times i may read the some things and did not met with the LSM churches.
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Old 10-21-2021, 06:37 PM   #2
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They said: we do not transmit the false teachings to the others, they must to be burned.
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Reading your post reminds me of my dilemma.

I knew not all LR's teachings were sound, yet I did not link it to a cult. But now, after studying the Bible seriously, reading the posts here, and testimonies on Youtube, I am afraid LR that I attend is a cult. I am eager to pass out tracts and preach the gospel on the street to get people saved (we do that quite often.) But after that? Leaving them in a cult and experiencing the same confusion as I did?
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:02 PM   #3
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Reading your post reminds me of my dilemma.

I knew not all LR's teachings were sound, yet I did not link it to a cult. But now, after studying the Bible seriously, reading the posts here, and testimonies on Youtube, I am afraid LR that I attend is a cult. I am eager to pass out tracts and preach the gospel on the street to get people saved (we do that quite often.) But after that? Leaving them in a cult and experiencing the same confusion as I did?
Bible-believer,

Have you had the chance to do any research or reading on what makes a group a cult? If not, I would recommend it. It is never easy to be in your dilemma, but being armed with information about cults might make it easier to see what you should or shouldn't do (along with prayer and seeking the Lord, of course).

The more I understood about cults and spiritual abuse, and the common threads that show up over and over in cults, AND the more I started seeing that kind of thing all over the LC and in the ministry.....the easier it was to see how much I should set aside or discard.

I definitely understand feeling like you want to continue to reach out to people, while simultaneously feeling like you don't want to bring them into a place that is unhealthy for them.

(If necessary we can move this to another or a new thread so it doesn't take this particular thread regarding the situation in Vietnam off-topic.)

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Old 10-22-2021, 09:17 AM   #4
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Praise the Lord, because He is "removing of what is shaken, as being made" in the so-called LSM churches in Viet Nam now.
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Thank you so much Hodos for the encouraging update. May the Lord continue to encourage you and the other faithful saints in Vietnam who are standing for the testimony of Jesus.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:56 PM   #5
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Dear saints in the Lord,
Hebrews 12:26-27, "whose voice then shook the earth; but now he has promised, saying, Yet once will *I* shake not only the earth, but also the heaven. But this Yet once, signifies the removing of what is shaken, as being made, that what is not shaken may remain".

Praise the Lord, because He is "removing of what is shaken, as being made" in the so-called LSM churches in Viet Nam now. Beside there were 6 localities, the saints in these localities meeting outside the LSM, The Lord has raised about 30 young people, who have gone out the LSM churches in Viet Nam. Because the Covid, they are meeting online three times a week-- to breaking bread, Bible study and prayers. They are using only the bible, never use any literature of LSM any more.

In addition, there are two old saints in the south of Viet Nam, who was meeting outside LSM, they had burned many books of LSM. And this young man, who was leading the meetings online, on Google meeting, is preparing to burn a quantity of LSM Vietnamese books to be worth $1000 USD. They did not give these books to the others. They said: we do not transmit the false teachings to the others, they must to be burned.

I myself did not burned any book of LSM, because some times i may read the some things and did not met with the LSM churches.
All glories belong to our glorious Lord.
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Hodos,

Thank you for your continued updates about the saints in Vietnam! I am so encouraged to hear of the group of 30 young people who have left the LC in Vietnam and who continue to meet together but without LSM literature. I have to imagine that is one of the healthier ways to leave the LC -- to leave LSM behind, but to keep the human connection, the existing relationships and not suffer the loss of the companions you know. I am so glad some former members have been able to have that experience.

I would agree with you, that I also would not want any LSM false teachings to get into anyone else's hands who does not already have the capability of discerning these type of sophisticated false teachings.

May the Lord continue to have mercy on the brothers and sisters trapped in the local churches and bring them out according to His will and His timing!

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