The Psalms are the word of Christ

[aron]

Originally Posted by JJ

Thanks guys for your good counsel to awareness. A hearty amen to it!

Also, I was at the “training” that Witness Lee mocked some of the saints for singing “His mercy endures forever” from the Psalms. So I am a witness of that. He wanted them to sing from Ephesians and other epistles of Paul and his footnotes on them instead. So, the next training (on Corinthians) saints had prepared some songs that used verses from Corinthians and others from his footnotes. I never heard “His mercy endures forever” sung again.

JJ

JJ thanks for speaking up. The more the LSM apologists try to assert something never happened, the more people need to say, "No, something did happen here".

Originally Posted by Ohio

Lee called Gal-Eph-Phil-Col the "Heart of the divine revelation," and even put these four books together in a pamphlet. I am perfectly fine with that, but for him to constantly promote "being filled in spirit," and dodge this serious N.T. exhortation about the Psalms (Eph 5.18-19) was a little crazy.

Not only that but the exhortation was repeated with slightly different language in Colossians 3:16. So Ephesians 5 wasn't a slip of the pen. Paul repeated the exhortation to another congregation. In one of WL's "high peak" epistles, no less.

Originally Posted by Ohio

In 1978 Lee taught, "Whatever is in the Bible ... is the Word of God."

In 1995 Lee taught, "Not every word in the Bible is the word of God."

Even if you take his second statement as provable, in that Manoah said something dumb to his wife, and Job and his friends argued over arcane theology, and Peter said, "Not so Lord! This will never happen to you!", and Satan speaks in Genesis 3 (etc), notice that my first point in this thread was not "every word in Psalm 1,3,4,5,6,7,9,11,12,13,14,15,17,18,19,20,21 is a word of God or a word of Christ."

No, my point was, "Perhaps there's more Christ in the first 21 Psalms than just Psalms 2,8, and 16". That was all I was trying to say.

And Drake tried to change it, to saying that I was implying that "every word of the Psalms must reveal Christ". No, that's a false choice set. I was just saying perhaps there's more. That's all I was saying, by starting this thread.

Originally Posted by aron

I think there is some Christ to be found in more than 3 of the first 21 Psalms. .

Originally Posted by aron

I will mention why I think Christ possibly found in Psalms 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, and 21 in the next post. Maybe, just maybe, Lee fit the Palms into a "Procrustean bed" and cut off some of the Christ waiting to be seen there.

Those are quotes from my first 2 posts on this thread. I didn't say that every word in those 18 Psalms had to be "Christ" or "of Christ" or "a word of God" (the last one meaning revelation of God v/v WL's 'man's fallen concept').

What WL seems to be saying, by contrast, is that every word of 18 of the first 21 Psalms is "of the tree of knowledge of good and evil" and not "of the tree of life". Because that's how he framed his introductory commentary in Psalm 1, a "natural" psalm (so-called), and this dismissive tone is continued in the ensuing footnotes. Again I covered this in detail the first 20 or so posts I submitted. In the RecV, a number of psalms get no comment, and those that do, the brief comment is not favorable, but is dismissive: "natural", "mixed sentiment" etc.

I merely said that perhaps there is "more Christ" in the Psalms than WL would let on. I didn't say every word had to be demonstrably "Christ".

You might wonder, well, why is my opinion superior to that of WL? He says "no Christ" and I say "perhaps more Christ". I prefer my option because 1) it's more in line with the NT pattern of reception of the Psalms, and 2) because Jesus said, "Seek and ye shall find". In the first 21 Psalms WL said, "No, don't seek. Nothing there." (Unless he was forced to by NT usage [i.e. Psalm 2,8,16]). No, I'd rather seek. I gave examples in Psalm 3, 6, and 18 where I found some profit. So I continue to dig.

"Oh the riches/Oh the riches/Christ my Saviour has for me" Again, from Post #2:

Originally Posted by aron

I have not covered Psalms 2 through 150 ... But I hope my point from Psalm 1 is made adequately, none the less, and is suggestive of further riches thus far ignored.