Lee and the book of Job

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Originally Posted by Leomon

You can look up any interpretation on the "create evil" verse.

It does not mean moral evil.

But you properly look into the words "evil" was translated from it means more "calamity"

I think it is consistent with the gospels and OT that God created calamity in that sense. He has every right to test those to see if they are worthy of him. We see in Israel that he allowed the Babylonians to take over Isreal. So that he could have a remnant that would follow him and learn from their mistakes.

Since the beginning God gave human being the choice of allowing or dis-obeying. Tree of knowledge and to partake of it can be interpreted in every sense as calamity for Adam and Eve.

God will punish those who dis-obey him. I dont see how that is evil. God can take away what he gave you, I dont see what is evil about that.

So stop using that verse to try to convince others that this means Moral evil.

It simply means that God will punish those who dis-obey.

The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these. (Isaiah 45:7, NASB)

I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, NIV)


This verse is to convey opposites. The opposite or prosperity is not moral evil. It is unpeace, or disaster.

Matt 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

God creates the floods, and hurricanes, and fires, and earthquakes and volcanoes, and tsunamis, etc. However, what is evil is when someone builds a nuclear power plant on the coast and doesn't provide the proper safeguards so that if a Typhoon, or earthquake or tsunami were to knock out the power they can prevent a calamity. What is evil is telling the public that everything is safe, and taking billions of taxpayer dollars to build this, but leaving out basic safeguards that could have been there and should have been there.

What is truly evil is not the earthquake, but it is the city that was built on sand (Kobe) which was over a fault zone. A city that any geologist could have told you would be destroyed by liquefaction when the earthquake hits. Yet they build it in blindness.

What is truly evil is taking hundreds of millions of dollars to wall up the Mississippi river when any geologist could tell you that the result would be total catastrophe if a hurricane hits.

What is truly evil is fighting terrorism with little remote control airplanes that anyone could afford to build. Teaching the entire world of potential terrorists that you don't need a 747 to strike terror into a US city.

These calamities demonstrate that our societies and civilization is built on sand, not on the rock. We did not listen to these sayings of Jesus and we did not do them. This is why the calamities are evil.