Things Learned from LGBTQ+ Discussions

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Thanks for your response.

Originally Posted by Trapped

You believe in an unrighteous God, awareness.

I'm not sure about that. I like to think God is righteous, but then I read the Bible. It looks to me like authors of the books of the Bible mischaracterize God. The book of Job comes to mind. How about this verse :

Jdg 1:19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

If that verse is true, God doesn't have a chance against our weapons.

Originally Posted by Trapped

Your worldview, which is apparently theological determinism, says that God causes each person to act certain ways and then judges them for it.

That's not quite accurate. True, if God causes it he can't judge it. But what does God cause?

The Bible is confusing. Example, it says thou shalt not kill. But then God tells the Israelite's to go into the promised land and kill everything that breathes. And there's a verse like this one :

Psa 137:9 Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!

Originally Posted by Trapped

Actually, this worldview is similar to atheistic materialists and doesn't require a God to even exist. We're all just moist robots, with our future actions already pre-wired, just acts of physics. In fact, if there is no such thing as free will, this necessarily means that there is no such thing as "wrong", and we have no place or right to condemn, say, Hitler for what he did.

You are right. God is not needed to determine right and wrong. We have laws, and courts, to determine that.

Originally Posted by Trapped

This viewpoint of yours may explain a good portion of your posts.......

Thanks ... maybe ... i guess.

I think the question on this thread is, does God cause homosexuality? I don't know. Are some people born gay? I think so. There's evidence of it, now that we know genetics and hormones have something to do with it. Does God cause it? I guess it depends on how involved He is. Is God involved at conception, development, and birth? According to the Bible, God controls the womb. That's pretty involved.

If that's true, and some are born gay -- even animals -- then God causes it. And I think we all agree that if God causes it, then He can't judge it.

Does this mean that I'm an atheist determinist? BTW, that's the first time I've heard that term. Are there theistic determinist's? Please help this idiot learn.