ETERNAL TORMENT IS FALSE TEACHING WHAT SAY YE'?

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Originally Posted by manna-man

"I included 2 verses from the apostle Paul. in 1Tim 2, Paul points out that it is God’s desire for all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth- that’s God’s desire, and I think God gets what he wants. The way is through the one man Jesus the Christ, who gave himself a ransom for all.

Next was 1Tim 4.10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. 11These things command and teach.

God is the savior of all men, especially of those who believe."

I haven't known of Babu long enough to jump to such a conclusion about him as you have. I prefer not to be so quick to judge.

Nevertheless,

As quoted previously..."God is the savior of all men, especially of those who believe."

Are you a universalist?

If God is the savior of all men then why are we still here? Scripture teaches He wills that none would perish but says many will.

I say there Old boy....I ain't no chicken I'm a Rooster��

¿What in the world is a universalist? Seems there is a label for everything. No, bro I just a Christian who try’s to walk in faith.

But, back to Paul and Tim- I ask myself, why Paul would tell Tim “all” men and then “especially those who believe”. If I was Tim, I would think that all means all. But in the scriptures, it seems with the right combination of verse fragments, one can have the scriptures saying just about anything.

One thing the scripture does not use is God the Son. It definitely presents the Son of God, and the God and Father of Our Lord Jesus, but Son of God- that’s a nyet (a little Russian collusion there). But the Baba Babu sticks it right in his dissertation

Son, Ah say son, you got to be with it, we don’t want no fox to get the chickens in this barnyard.