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Old 12-18-2021, 01:06 AM   #1
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http://asweetsavor.org/bible-school/

So TC's ministry has been running these online Bible school classes for over a year now... Thoughts?
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Old 12-18-2021, 08:36 AM   #2
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Seems much more biblical than LSM's "Full-Time Training"...but let's face it, that's not a very high hurdle to clear, now is it?

Something that concerns me a little is the "WHO WE ARE" statement which is placed at the very bottom of the main page when it should be posted in a much more prominent position on the primary page. Here is the statement:

WHO WE ARE
A Sweet Savor is committed to presenting and preserving the ministries of Titus Chu and his co-workers. The heart of these ministries is to present Christ and to encourage every believer’s subjective experiences of Christ, foster the growth of their spritual life, and to fill them with visions and revelations. In line with the heart of these ministries, this website seeks to challenge all believers and seekers of God to press on towards perfection for the strengthening of the local churches.


I am somewhat concerned that the "Sweet Savor" is not a savor unto the Lord, but rather a kind of savor or offering to the person and work of Titus Chu. I am not judging that this is actually the case, only that there is at least the appearance of a system that lends itself to having a focus on the person and work of a man rather than the person and work of our Lord Jesus Christ, his glorious Gospel and his living and abiding Word.
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Old 12-18-2021, 02:28 PM   #3
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I was thinking few times about web sites of some ministries. They have to write something.
We live in time of internet and websites. There are some rules or patterns.
One reason of mentioning name could be responsibility for teaching taken by man.
I recall one place in Bible, where Peter ( 2 Peter 3:15,16) mentioned ministry of Paul. On one hand they and we all together are brothers in Christ. But there can be different ministries.
Among many I know ministry of John MacArthur, Witness Lee, Justin Peters, Zac Poonen, and several others (random order).
I think this is up to as if we follow man ( names) or Jesus.
Paul said, "some say, I am of Apollos, I am of Paul and I am of Christ".
I know, that there was another meaning of division, but was Apollos guilty of saint's attitude? Was Paul's desire to be admired?
I do not see Titus name on main site until on the bottom, which is good sign for me.
His name is mentioned, but was not the point of that web site.
His ministry is to serve saints I hope.
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Old 12-19-2021, 03:34 AM   #4
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So TC's ministry has been running these online Bible school classes for over a year now... Thoughts?
After the online school promotional video, the Titus Chu video titled, “Local Church: Seeing the Crucialness of the Ground and the Building“ popped up, so I listened to the beginning.

TC has not changed. He is still adamant about the “ground of locality.” In other words, every other church on earth - but his own - is divisive. All the Bible knowledge in the world cannot negate the fact that they are convinced that they alone are “one,” and all other churches are divisive. Of course, they will deny this, but listen for yourself what he is saying.
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TC had some ability and gift to speak and teach, but he also had too much ambition and pride and wanted to be a leader and do his own work, that is why he got lost and could not remain one with other brothers. What TC does is right, in his own eyes, and he justifies doing what he is doing by stating that others are the problem. I see ambition and pride as his divisive pitfall. He and his work are a negative pattern for us to learn from, just as other types in the Bible are written for our admonition. Titus can deal with the Lord at the judgement seat, just like all of us, because only the Lord knows all the hidden motives and smaller facts.
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I'm sure we won't get an answer from you my friend, but I'm going to try anyway.

Who do you think Titus Chu learned from? Could it be some other gifted speaker and teacher? Titus has called Witness Lee his spiritual father, and therefore he could never criticize him. Titus now expects the same from his spiritual children.

Like father, like son. And yes, father and son will deal with the Lord at the Judgment Seat. They will also have to answer to the very same Lord who proclaimed "to whom much is given, much will be required".
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TC had some ability and gift to speak and teach, but he also had too much ambition and pride and wanted to be a leader and do his own work, that is why he got lost and could not remain one with other brothers. What TC does is right, in his own eyes, and he justifies doing what he is doing by stating that others are the problem. I see ambition and pride as his divisive pitfall. He and his work are a negative pattern for us to learn from, just as other types in the Bible are written for our admonition. Titus can deal with the Lord at the judgement seat, just like all of us, because only the Lord knows all the hidden motives and smaller facts.
Both WL, TC, and today’s Blendeds definitely share the same “ambition and pride to be leaders and do their own work.” TC, however, never built up his ministry by condemning every other Christian on planet earth in the body of Christ. So you tell me who has the greater pride?

The more significant difference between the two ministries centered in Anaheim and Cleveland is related to a serious lack of principle and righteousness. Emanating from Anaheim for decades was a steady “flow” of immorality, corruption, and deceit covered up by blended groupthink disguising itself as fake “oneness.” These same sins which so characterized Lee and his sons are now regularly seen in the LC’s which faithfully followed them with with blinded eyes.

Obviously your biased views of the Recovery have been shaped by one-sided indoctrinating propaganda regularly published by LSM, and you have never taken the time to fairly evaluate the true facts of history.
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Obviously your biased views of the Recovery have been shaped by one-sided indoctrinating propaganda regularly published by LSM, and you have never taken the time to fairly evaluate the true facts of history.
Comments like this do not encourage discussion.
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Comments like this do not encourage discussion.
Unregistered,

Let me encourage you to please go ahead and register for an account on the forum and jump in.

Most of the members have a pretty thick skin. This is exactly the kind of discussions we engage in ... more often than not!

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Comments like this do not encourage discussion.
Are you the same "unregistered" person as the two other "unregistered" persons on this thread?

If persons on an open forum wanted to actually "encourage discussion," I would think these persons would identify with their remarks, so that others could respond to their remarks, i.e. a "discussion." Hence, Local Church Discussions.
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