Christian Persecution in the USA?

[Sons to Glory!]

Everyday we're hearing more and more about the "Cancel Culture" and its affects in this country, in trying to root out the perceived deep-seated ills of society. But just questioning the "woke" ideas and methods of the day can get you quickly ostracized from many groups. And standing for some basic, conservative values will get you - at the least - looked at as being a backward Neanderthal of sorts. But also increasingly you may be labeled as a dangerous bigot and perhaps other serious reactions like even being unceremoniously dismissed from your job! Something then occurred to me as I considered all of these disturbing things and I had sort of a "duh" moment.

In light of this I wondered how long it might be before the "woke" culture starts to see more and more of these "evil" things as emanating from Christians. That is, how long is it until Christians are seen as a primary source of hindrance, who are holding society back from achieving some sort of Utopian ideal?

A few months ago it was difficult for me to imagine open persecutions of Christians taking place in this country. Now, that doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me . . .

Anyone else perceive this?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

A few months ago it was difficult for me to imagine open persecutions of Christians taking place in this country. Now, that doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me . . .

Anyone else perceive this?

Hateful Christian's, or those not loving their neighbors, should be Cancel Cultured. Good riddance with the hypocrites. Don't be confused. They're not being persecuted for being Christians, but for being hateful.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Hateful Christian's, or those not loving their neighbors, should be Cancel Cultured. Good riddance with the hypocrites. Don't be confused. They're not being persecuted for being Christians, but for being hateful.

If anyone stands up for Jesus and the truth, he will be called hateful and bigoted. You will be canceled. You will be called an intolerant hypocrite. You will be attacked and shamed and called a racist. They will label you as with the Jews of old.

They will adopt all the same tactics of the fascist gestapos, yet call themselves "Antifa" or some social justice warriors. They will come purging society, claiming you are the fault of all evil, and kill you thinking they do service to God.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

If anyone stands up for Jesus and the truth, he will be called hateful and bigoted. You will be canceled. You will be called an intolerant hypocrite. You will be attacked and shamed and called a racist. They will label you as with the Jews of old.

They will adopt all the same tactics of the fascist gestapos, yet call themselves "Antifa" or some social justice warriors. They will come purging society, claiming you are the fault of all evil, and kill you thinking they do service to God.

Bro Ohio, you've got some wild paranoid imaginings there.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Bro Ohio, you've got some wild paranoid imaginings there.

Or perhaps I am in "awareness" of many things you choose to deny.

[Sons to Glory!]

Well, we've been moved to the dark side (Alternative Views) - I blame this on you two "politicos" (Awareness & Ohio)!

Just kidding . . . sorta.

Actually, I guess I don't really understand what constitutes an Alternative View . . . I thought we'd just have some fellowship about this topic, hence I started it in the Fellowship Hall. Oh well, seems anything that could wax political will get moved here.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Or perhaps I am in "awareness" of many things you choose to deny.

Oh, I forgot. You've got a hot line to God's cell phone in heaven.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Ohio

They will adopt all the same tactics of the fascist gestapos, yet call themselves "Antifa" or some social justice warriors. They will come purging society, claiming you are the fault of all evil, and kill you thinking they do service to God.

Or perhaps all is hopeless endeavor in denying there is God. I believe many of these anti-first amendment (antifascists) were brought up in Christian homes. Only now as adults want to eradicate any memory of a Christian upbringing. In persecuting Christians "might" soothe their soul.
I cannot get beyond how one considering themselves a "social justice warrior" finds justice by inflicting injuries or causing death to another human being.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Everyday we're hearing more and more about the "Cancel Culture" and its affects in this country, in trying to root out the perceived deep-seated ills of society. But just questioning the "woke" ideas and methods of the day can get you quickly ostracized from many groups. And standing for some basic, conservative values will get you - at the least - looked at as being a backward Neanderthal of sorts. But also increasingly you may be labeled as a dangerous bigot and perhaps other serious reactions like even being unceremoniously dismissed from your job! Something then occurred to me as I considered all of these disturbing things and I had sort of a "duh" moment.

In light of this I wondered how long it might be before the "woke" culture starts to see more and more of these "evil" things as emanating from Christians. That is, how long is it until Christians are seen as a primary source of hindrance, who are holding society back from achieving some sort of Utopian ideal?

A few months ago it was difficult for me to imagine open persecutions of Christians taking place in this country. Now, that doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me . . .

Anyone else perceive this?

Sure!

First they come after symbols like statues, next they come after property and assets like our cars, finally they come after people.

President Trump said it best to his audience one day: "They don't hate me, they hate you. I'm just in the way."

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

And standing for some basic, conservative values will get you - at the least - looked at as being a backward Neanderthal of sorts.

Now, now, you're cancelling many in my state of Kentucky, that's filled with Neanderthal's of sorts. They're called hillbilly hick's, red necks, country bumpkins, among other derogatory terms. But they act and think like knuckle-draggers on tractors.

Originally Posted by StG

In light of this I wondered how long it might be before the "woke" culture starts to see more and more of these "evil" things as emanating from Christians. That is, how long is it until Christians are seen as a primary source of hindrance, who are holding society back from achieving some sort of Utopian ideal?

I don't think millennial's will bother. They're turning away from the churches in droves, just leaving them behind, and not looking back.

But, if due to failing in the spiritual realm, to reach people, and as smaller collection plates develop, if Christians continue to turn to politics out of desperation, they'll likely become targets.

Besides, history proves that Christians have flourished during persecutions ... so give it your best shot woker's.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Everyday we're hearing more and more about the "Cancel Culture" and its affects in this country, in trying to root out the perceived deep-seated ills of society. But just questioning the "woke" ideas and methods of the day can get you quickly ostracized from many groups. And standing for some basic, conservative values will get you - at the least - looked at as being a backward Neanderthal of sorts. But also increasingly you may be labeled as a dangerous bigot and perhaps other serious reactions like even being unceremoniously dismissed from your job! Something then occurred to me as I considered all of these disturbing things and I had sort of a "duh" moment.

In light of this I wondered how long it might be before the "woke" culture starts to see more and more of these "evil" things as emanating from Christians. That is, how long is it until Christians are seen as a primary source of hindrance, who are holding society back from achieving some sort of Utopian ideal?

A few months ago it was difficult for me to imagine open persecutions of Christians taking place in this country. Now, that doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me . . .

Anyone else perceive this?

Now in California, a place of worship is restricted from singing. Of the different faiths, which one would you identify this affecting? Christians!
within the last 10-15 years I used to see these bumper stickers promoting tolerance of different faiths. Many faiths were easily identifiable, but that of Christians and Catholics was conspicuously absent. Seems a subtle form of persecution. Only now it is becoming less and less subtle.

Speaking about the "woke", they are in many ways very similar to the local churches. Engaged in their emotions and disengaged from their mind. Tend to be very much asleep. Instead of thinking for themselves, there's reliance on the media to do the thinking for them. In essence, far from awake, the "woke" are very much asleep.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Terry

Now in California, a place of worship is restricted from singing. Of the different faiths, which one would you identify this affecting? Christians!
within the last 10-15 years I used to see these bumper stickers promoting tolerance of different faiths. Many faiths were easily identifiable, but that of Christians and Catholics was conspicuously absent. Seems a subtle form of persecution. Only now it is becoming less and less subtle.

Speaking about the "woke", they are in many ways very similar to the local churches. Engaged in their emotions and disengaged from their mind. Tend to be very much asleep. Instead of thinking for themselves, there's reliance on the media to do the thinking for them. In essence, far from awake, the "woke" are very much asleep.

Brother Terry, maybe you need to look deeper into the woke movement other than what's presented in the media.

This is outside that concern but, I came up in the days when the young college students were protesting Vietnam -- think of Nixon and Kent State -- and it turned out that those protesters were right ... and Nixon -- I'm not a crook -- was wrong.

Then the youth went silent. They seemed to be too obsessed with their gadgets to care.

So I don't care how they're branded, in the media or elsewhere, I'm just glad to see them active again.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by awareness

Brother Terry, maybe you need to look deeper into the woke movement other than what's presented in the media.

This is outside that concern but, I came up in the days when the young college students were protesting Vietnam -- think of Nixon and Kent State -- and it turned out that those protesters were right ... and Nixon -- I'm not a crook -- was wrong.

Then the youth went silent. They seemed to be too obsessed with their gadgets to care.

So I don't care how they're branded, in the media or elsewhere, I'm just glad to see them active again.

In the end, what will it profit them if they do indeed gain the whole world, yet do not find Christ? Of course, nothing. Movements and unrest are fine, as far as God uses them to gain some or hopefully many. Like everything else Adam does, the fruit of it is in the realm of the flesh, which again, profits nothing. And we will know what tree the fruit comes from by its reaction to Christ. He said that those of the world would hate us Christians, because they hated Him first, right?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Brother Terry, maybe you need to look deeper into the woke movement other than what's presented in the media.

This is outside that concern but, I came up in the days when the young college students were protesting Vietnam -- think of Nixon and Kent State -- and it turned out that those protesters were right ... and Nixon -- I'm not a crook -- was wrong.

Then the youth went silent. They seemed to be too obsessed with their gadgets to care.

So I don't care how they're branded, in the media or elsewhere, I'm just glad to see them active again.

By your logic, perhaps David Koresh was right and Clinton -- "it depends on what the definition of 'is' is" -- was wrong. Wrong about Ruby Ridge too. Too many "wrongs" to list here.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

By your logic, perhaps David Koresh was right and Clinton -- "it depends on what the definition of 'is' is" -- was wrong. Wrong about Ruby Ridge too. Too many "wrongs" to list here.

Not the same thing. There's way too many bodies behind Clintoon to count.

And Koresh was very bright in Bible knowledge, and didn't deserve getting burned to the ground, and Gerry Spence proved that Randy Weaver was wronged too ... both Christians that suffered persecution.

And they don't relate to young people protesting. I thought pubbies were 1st amendment supporters ... I guess not if young lefter's use it.

[awareness]

Now this is Christian persecution. Not like the lack of real persecution in America :

China 'orders Christians to destroy crosses on their churches and take down images of Jesus in intensifying crackdown on religion'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ges-Jesus.html