[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Yes and amen! "We wrestle not with flesh and blood . . ." The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace!

Originally Posted by Nell

Title: I was Deceived
Can you please relate these verses to what I actually wrote? I wrote at length about deception. Is it possible that the fruit of Lee's ministry is... more deception?

Do you think Lee was deceived...in his treatment of others...those who were damaged by his "ministry"? The church kids.

Where is the fruit of the Spirit? The fruit we are dealing with here...the children of those who were/are faithful to Lee, is it remotely possible that this is the fruit of the Holy Spirit? Love? Peace? Joy? I don't see it. Can you elaborate?

Please put your verses into context. I'm asking for clarity.

Witness used to provide a list of verses that we assumed he was going to cover in his "message". At the end of the message, we were scratching our little heads...thinking...hummm...did I miss something?....the verses written on the board had nothing to do with the "message". Huh...

Help us out here.

Nell

Nell, my reply was meant to support what you said at a high level. I took your first post to mean that it's not each other that's so much the problem, but rather the serpent who is always lying - this is the root of it all. Therefore, we should love the person for whom Christ died and paid an incredible price to redeem from the evil kingdom of darkness, and not attack them as if they were the serpent/problem.

In interacting with each other in Spirit, the fruit will be love, joy and peace toward one another, not striving and contention. We will also be long-suffering with each other if we understand that each of us is precious to our Master - it is the unseen deceiver we are really wrestling with, not the other person, and we shouldn't get this confused. It is the lies of the serpent that causes division and that we are hoping to shed light upon.

Did I misunderstand your post? (upon reading it again, perhaps you were trying to equate WL with the father of lies perhaps?)