11-15-2020, 10:11 AM
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Re: Politics and the Church
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Originally Posted by Trapped
Wait, wait, wait, where does the Bible say "you have to forgive no matter what" (which is what "no apology" implies)?
Jesus says forgive 70x7 "if they repent":
Luke 17:3
So watch yourselves. "If your brother or sister sins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them.
Jesus says in Matthew 18 that if you have a problem with someone, go talk to them. If they don't "hear" (i.e. repent) He doesn't say "you have to forgive them". He says to ratchet it up and bring more people, and then tell the church, and then treat them as unbelievers if they don't repent. He never says "forgive no matter what".
Forgiveness is always predicated on repentance. That's how God forgives us in Christ (when we acknowledge our sins and repent of them).
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Brother Trapped, aren't you combining two gospels to form one of your own? : Mat 18:21* Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?*
Mat 18:22* Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.* It says nothing about repentance.
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