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Originally Posted by Hodos
I am meeting with a group of saints outside the LSM so-called churches in Viet Nam. There are a few saints in their congregations who told me some of their remarks as follows, hope you are the ones who are ahead of us in the right way of recovery, please guide us so that we can help many others saints in Vietnam-
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Hi Hodos,
The comments you quoted from the saints regarding Witness Lee and LSM weigh heavily on me. I think Nell’s answer was excellent, and Ohio’s answer was exactly right too. The Bible says the opposite of what these saints are saying, and what they are saying shows how much bondage they are in.
Here are some of my thoughts to add to the mix:
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Originally Posted by Hodos
1 / A young saint told me in 2013: “I believe through W.N. and W.L. the Lord's recovery come up to a zenith, and that culmination is the daily reading of Morning revival holy word published by the LSM. I cannot leave W.L. to follow Titus Chu or John So, because their teachings and books are far behind and inferior to the books of W.L.
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1.The teaching behind believing that Nee and Lee are some kind of zenith is the teaching of “minister of the age”. One big problem with the minister of the age teaching is that numerous of the so-called MOTAs in the Old Testament are known types and figures, shadows, of who? The Messiah. They are all pointing to Christ. Lee/LSM places Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the most unique man who has ever lived, the One who is supposed to be the fulfillment of these types, simply as one among many men in the long line of MOTAs. No joke. And then after Him, Lee says the MOTA line continues through the apostles and others leading up to Lee himself.
But this is not how types and shadows work. If there are more types AFTER the fulfillment of the type, then the original fulfillment (Jesus) becomes a mere shadow of what is after him. In other words, these dear deceived saints are in essence saying that Jesus is a type, a figure, a shadow, pointing to the zenith, the one at the end, Witness Lee. I am horrified for those who continue to teach and believe the MOTA doctrine, for the serious and sobering conclusions such as these that it implies.
God did not send His only Son to die for you and me only for the ultimate peak to be tied to LSM, a lucrative non-profit publishing company based in Anaheim, CA. It’s totally crazy when you say it that way! Jesus says He is the Way to the Father. THE Way. There is no other way. Including LSM. Including Lee. To be unable to give up any other mortal teacher who will be sitting in the same seat as the rest of us to be judged shows just how much in the oppression of fear and bondage they are. But I’m sure they don’t even realize it, so effective are the thought and behavior controlling teachings of this ministry.
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Originally Posted by Hodos
2 / An elderly saint said to me: “Do not bring us back to the Stone Age, in that we had to work hard to find some bible verses to share on Sunday morning meetings according 1 Corinthians 14:26. Today with the help of LSM, everything is ready, why not accept the documents they print? "
Thank you,
Hodos, September, 4, 2020
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2.Their reference to 1 Corinthians 14:26 is confusing, given that the verse speaks of each one having a hymn, a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Of almost all the churches out there, the local churches match this the LEAST! Why is that? Because the hymns are chosen by Lee or modified by Lee or written by Lee. The instruction is based on Lee. The revelation is only from Lee. The tongues are non-existent. And the interpretation is only and solely from Lee, OR ELSE!! There is no semblance of “each one has”..... there is only “Lee has”!
I feel for you, Hodos, because there are some responses from LC members where the deception is so great, so deep, and so dark, that you will get more hurt and more frustrated and more driven out of your mind by trying to engage with them logically, and you would be better served and would better serve them simply by praying that God would open their eyes. It reminds me of the scene in Ezekiel where the temple is full of idols and everyone has their backs to the temple worshipping Tammuz (a false god, an idol) rather than the God whose glory filled the temple, the real God. They are so blinded that sometimes all we can do is pray for God’s mercy to be extended to them like it has been to us.
We are praying for you.
Trapped