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Originally Posted by byHismercy
Ok, this is all very interesting. Thank you all for contributing to this conversation. What it brings up for me is another point, related to this subject, wherein I disagree with LC doctrine. In the LC, believers were divided into at least two categories, overcomes and those who have not overcome. This is another doctrine which directly contradicts scripture, though.
1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcomes the world: and this is the victory that overcomes the world, even our faith. Vs. 5 Who is he that overcomes the world, but he that believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
This verse tells me that I and every born again believer of Christ is an overcomer. The LC was wrong to divide the true body of Christ into overcomers and non-overcomers. It is so very plain in scripture. How could they get this small detail so wrong? It definitely makes the rest of their theology suspect, at the least.
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byHisMercy, I have met some folks over the years who testified of being genuinely "born again" as a young person. Later in life they completely forsook their faith, denying even the very existence of God and the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
One example, though I don't know him personally, is
Dr. Bart Ehrman, an accomplished Bible professor, and a self-described atheist. Did he not once have faith? He also used to preach the gospel. Did he not reject both his faith and His Savior? He is no longer a believer, neither is he an "overcomer."
So this is an example of one who once was a believer but who can not be an overcomer. The Galatians are others. They too were "bewitched." (Gal 3.1)