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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

disagree. There will always be liars, cheats, and scam artists. What we need are leaders like TR that can rise above that.



Don't agree that this is the question. The question to me is how can a free society survive when they have this huge cancer of the CIA growing in their midst with secret budgets, secret programs, and they laugh at elections and who is "in power".



disagree, that is ridiculous. Communism never threatened free societies, that was simply a scam used to scare people to support flawed policies. Likewise with the new bogeyman, Islamic Extremists. These people are responding to atrocities committed by these evil entities -- CIA, Military industrial complex, Big Oil. They are the cause, Islamic extremists are simply the symptom.



Disagree that this is where the greatest threat is from. Greatest threat is from the disinformation campaigns run by this huge intelligence agencies (Russia, China and the US) and by corporations.



Anger is an excellent motivator, hence all politicians have used it. Nothing new here. The "abuses" perpetrated by Trump are trivial compared to the abuses perpetrated by the Continental congress. Things are getting better, not worse.



That's funny. You think a Democratic congress will have any influence at all? You seriously think that is a harbinger of the tide beginning to turn?

Climate change is impacting the world. It will be a drag on the Economy and there will be a growing number of climate refugees, growing exponentially year after year. Gang violence in these countries is not the cause, it is a symptom of economic and political collapse.

I understand. You're looking forward to the Apocalypse. The idea that a few good people can turn the situation around seems pretty ludicrous to you. The only thing I can say is that the biggest problems we have are the ones we've caused as humans. So perhaps if it's not too late we can turn the situation around.