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Old 02-02-2014, 07:53 AM   #78
UntoHim
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Default Re: Outer darkness: A thousand years? or for eternity?

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Originally Posted by awareness View Post
And I'm not "running along." You are not my mother. Even tho you remind me of her.
There ya go Harold, I thought a good theological debate would loosen you up!

I will repeat:
The people to whom Jesus was speaking to had very little concept of the Holy Spirit...in fact the Holy Spirit was a totally foreign term/concept to most of them. So why would Jesus use a metaphor to a people who wouldn't have the faintest idea of what he was speaking of?

Harold, the Jews were never "trinitarians"...not from the beginning, not at Jesus' day and not today. To Jews the Spirit is simply the "breath of God", the power of God as it may rest upon a person and in some cases the thoughts or even the word of God. The Spirit of God was not considered "holy" for only God himself (Jehovah, Yahweh) was holy. You will not find the term "Holy Spirit" in the Old Testament, at least not in the sense the term is used in the New Testament. Anytime you see this term in the Old Testament it is in the sense of "the spirit of his holiness" - a completely different idea/concept than "The Holy Spirit", the third person in the Christian doctrine of the trinity.

Anyway, this is taking us off the beaten path and I've forgotten why this whole matter was brought up... maybe to show how the metaphor of oil used in the parable of the 10 virgins may not necessarily be representative of the Holy Spirit?

Peace!
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