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Originally Posted by aron
And I see nothing from these verses that requires all of these gifts in perpetuity. You have an "all or nothing" requirement here which I don't see.
And if your requirement is "Until we all come to the fulness etc" then our required apostle can be the ones who wrote the Bible.
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No I my requirement is that I want the NT to state that there are no more apostles before I teach that.
The NT teaches that there were apostles.
The NT teaches that the Resurrected and Ascended Christ gave gifts to men, one of which was apostles, to help them grow into maturity (which I understand to be the end of the Church age).
The NT teaches that it is a good work to examine if someone is an apostle or if they are a liar.
The NT teaches that we will have to continue this work of discerning between those truly sent by God (the two witnesses) versus the frauds (antichrist and false prophet) right up until the Lord's return.
So I see 4 teachings in the NT that are very relevant to whether we have this gift today or not, what I don't see is a teaching that says this gift ended when the NT was canonized.