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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-16-2019, 07:40 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 5,330
Posted By Betsy
Re: Greetings from an LC member!

They haven’t learned yet since this divisive material is currently still taught in the FTTA online.
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 04-15-2019, 10:13 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 3,988
Posted By Betsy
Re: Asking forgiveness from those we hurt while following the Lord's Recove

Regrets, especially the biggest regret, can be the worse kind of grief and pain. Hopefully you’ve made progress in accomplishing this most worthy goal.

Would it be inevitable that estrangement...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 03-15-2018, 01:44 AM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Body Language?

A couple years ago, I wondered if I could be over reacting to WL or too critical for reasons not justified, so I sent one of his YouTube videos to a physician who does body language studies in his...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 03-14-2018, 10:09 AM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

Excellent! I never thought of that. What a great POV to give if I had any boldness left with church members.

While great minds are speaking here -- what about the Bible verses that say to stay...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 03-14-2018, 08:29 AM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

Nell, I think you got it! That's it -- our own hypocrisy -- or at least that is what it becomes in practice. But when it's forced onto us, then I wouldn't call it hypocrisy, but rather coercion...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 03-13-2018, 10:05 PM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

Sounds to me like his conscience was seared.

I wonder if anyone else felt like going to the church meetings was plain hell -- real torture. I've been told it's the flesh being crucified, but then...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 03-12-2018, 05:42 PM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

What is a "forum mentality"?

Even forums could become a cult. There's the Witness Lee cult, and there could even be an anti-Witness Lee cult -- all misplaced devotions.

But the use of the...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 03-12-2018, 04:46 PM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: A limited relationship with Jesus

If only, but I think that is exactly what they do. A cult leader places himself between Jesus and his people, who must have the one mind of the cult leader and thereby simulate his relationship with...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 03-07-2018, 08:54 AM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

Could you explain a bit more about what this Defense and Confirmation Project is doing or what it is suppose to be doing. It is still being supported.



Darn, no potential here for...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 03-07-2018, 12:31 AM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

No apology needed. I like to hear both sides. Last time I was here I don't remember the LC Apologists being out in force. It can't help but bring to mind something I recently learned -- the LC has a...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 03-05-2018, 08:52 AM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

A little update! My main objection to the WL church has always been the practice of oneness which results in everyone saying the same thing to practice oneness in mind and spirit (appearance too). ...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 12-24-2017, 10:20 AM
Replies: 325
Views: 67,348
Posted By Betsy
Re: First Post kumbaya

None of the 6 churches with which I am familiar use xerox copies of their Morning Revival. Xerox copies are used in the trainings one pays to attend.
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 08-08-2016, 08:43 PM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

Interesting! Thanks for the reply. In the FTTA - online lessons, WL wrote about in the late 80s, he was feeling very uncomfortable in his church and so the good Lord cared for him by trimming the...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 08-08-2016, 06:43 PM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

When was Witness Lee banned from the Anaheim church and how did he get reinstated?
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 08-08-2016, 12:07 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 10,133
Posted By Betsy
Re: Jane Anderson

Indiana -- how considerate of you! Hopefully this will help the Andersons feel better. Sadly I've learned that those who should apologize rarely do.

For some reason this made me think of 1 Cor...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 08-06-2016, 10:12 AM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: Pray-Reading

Oh but I am out of tune usually with the Spirit, compared to lr. She had this finely tuned spiritual connection even as a young child, long before LC took it. I see the LSM as taking the best spirits...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 08-06-2016, 10:01 AM
Replies: 115
Views: 31,012
Posted By Betsy
Re: Gleanings From The Past Posts

Thanks, I shoulda known -- change a bit for iPad and it's done.
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 08-06-2016, 08:59 AM
Replies: 115
Views: 31,012
Posted By Betsy
Re: Gleanings From The Past Posts

And from Aron: (don't know how to quote farm a different thread)

Mr. Nee may have sincerely believed that his organizational arrangement would better serve the Lord to evangelize China, and...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 08-06-2016, 08:54 AM
Replies: 115
Views: 31,012
Posted By Betsy
Re: Gleanings From The Past Posts

Thought I hit the mother lode last night in Our Journey to Elden in 1971
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 08-04-2016, 09:27 PM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: Pray-Reading

Thank you for your prayers SteVee. My so called guidance and protection only come from loving intensions, but LR has and has always had a spirit/Spirit to which I'm often out of tune. Is this fine,...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 08-04-2016, 09:02 PM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

Acts 20:30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. 31 Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 08-04-2016, 08:45 PM
Replies: 655
Views: 386,634
Posted By Betsy
Re: MERGED THREAD: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery

This is what I have heard from other saints, why they are so loyal through thick and thin. I also agree with Lisbon in that a true ministry cannot gush out both bitterness and sweetness. Thus even...
Forum: If you really Nee to know 07-28-2016, 08:27 AM
Replies: 237
Views: 207,347
Posted By Betsy
Re: Quarantine according to Lee

That is severe, but what choice do they really have when their church of oneness is based on a man and his ministry. If it was Christ centered, they could be more forgiving, and accept all as Christ...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 07-26-2016, 09:28 PM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

This website says all are welcome.

http://thechurchincleveland.weebly.com/links.html

Interesting that the suggested ministries don't include WL, but include Titus Chu, Née and Austin-Sparks. ...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 07-26-2016, 12:35 PM
Replies: 157
Views: 25,354
Posted By Betsy
Re: From a concerned parent

Mostly I get the impression they would like to terminate my contact with lr.



I've often thought this would be a major sticking point because to admit such would mean since one followed a...
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