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Forum: Apologetic discussions 06-26-2014, 08:05 PM
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Posted By james73
Re: The Asian mind and the Western mind

being addicted to anything "good" or "bad" is bondage. the dopamine/oxycontin flood is a symptom of the illusions the mind creates for us and we get addicted to it very easily. It's a good question,...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 06-24-2014, 07:02 PM
Replies: 619
Views: 321,511
Posted By james73
Re: The Asian mind and the Western mind

Well here's a nice Christian church in Changzhou, China, built in the architecture of the western mind, adorned with consumer stores in the style of the Chinese consumer mind, offering five or six...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 05-25-2014, 08:54 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 4,470
Posted By james73
What Not To Wear

An amusing anecdote from a preacher yesterday, concerning a homeless man who came to a church dressed in rags.

The pastor approached him, and said quietly, "This is a House of God! These rags do...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 05-15-2014, 12:40 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 27,167
Posted By james73
Re: A Public Service Announcement

I had a similar experience, where I invited all the "saints" in my group to come to an annual all-city prayer meeting held at a local Catholic church. Exactly as Chris said, I was told it was not a...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 03-13-2014, 05:52 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 36,908
Posted By james73
Re: Is it the Message, or the Men?

Add to the list, the teachings themselves were seeped in promoting "the recovery" as God's exclusive move on earth.

Well, first, the leaders don't need to sit in a star chamber and try to keep the...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 03-12-2014, 09:21 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 36,908
Posted By james73
Re: Is it the Message, or the Men?

The problem is, it's not a church. You might as well go through the messages and manuals of Amway or Nuskin or Philip Morris and point out how unbiblical they are. By arguing their half-baked...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 02-15-2014, 08:45 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 10,923
Posted By james73
Re: Witness Lee's failures a blessing in disguise?

Yes but don't beat yourself for that, not at all. The system itself teaches obedience ad nauseam (at least in Church in HK), it's part of the faith, it's part of being a "Christian". I am sure many...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 02-07-2014, 11:52 PM
Replies: 117
Views: 74,680
Posted By james73
Re: How to help people whose friends and relatives are active members of th

Thanks BearBear-

One I found useful was: http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/Warning_signs_of_dysfunctional_cults.html

The link I posted there offers a list of 35 "warning signs". Using...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 02-05-2014, 10:24 PM
Replies: 117
Views: 74,680
Posted By james73
Re: How to help people whose friends and relatives are active members of th

Bearbear Bearbear (as your new avatar makes me want to call you!), this is good, but be careful knocking Lee on the head too hard with that. The concordance/dictionary approach is actually a very...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 01-28-2014, 02:20 AM
Replies: 117
Views: 74,680
Posted By james73
Re: How to help people whose friends and relatives are active members of th

I may be wrong, but I think few people here who have escaped LC did so because someone else convinced them to do so.

The first practical step is to renounce all desire to pull them out of the...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 01-18-2014, 07:43 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 12,374
Posted By james73
Re: For OBW - What is the nature of Faith?

Ha, no, it's a bright Sunday morning and I woke up feeling fine, thanks!

Dunno why you would call me a baby for asking these questions... sorry if you're offended.
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 01-18-2014, 07:01 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 12,374
Posted By james73
Re: For OBW - What is the nature of Faith?

But trust in what? Does that mean I also have to trust in what other humans say God says and does? And I have to pick the right group of humans to follow? That doesn't add up.

When do you say...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-16-2014, 11:17 PM
Replies: 234
Views: 222,171
Posted By james73
Re: Does 2 Peter 2's warning of false teachers describe Witness Lee?

So 99.9% of people are Lake of Fire bound? Isn't it terribly irresponsible to have children, in that case?
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-15-2014, 11:18 PM
Replies: 234
Views: 222,171
Posted By james73
Re: Does 2 Peter 2's warning of false teachers describe Witness Lee?

If you accept there are different paths to salvation for different alien races, why is it so hard to accept there are different paths to salvation right here on earth?

Just think how complicated...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-15-2014, 08:23 PM
Replies: 234
Views: 222,171
Posted By james73
Re: Does 2 Peter 2's warning of false teachers describe Witness Lee?

That's a very juvenile and disingenious teaching of Buddhism… either through ignorance or deliberate deceit. I would say it is more a Cliff Notes on a distorted branch of the religion, with the...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-15-2014, 07:08 PM
Replies: 234
Views: 222,171
Posted By james73
Re: Does 2 Peter 2's warning of false teachers describe Witness Lee?

And what is the "Gospel"? Isn't it the good news that the Law is not necessary for salvation, that eternal life is not reserved exclusively for Jews? That literally anyone, gentile, tax collector,...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-14-2014, 08:39 PM
Replies: 234
Views: 222,171
Posted By james73
Re: Does 2 Peter 2's warning of false teachers describe Witness Lee?

I disagree. I agree we should never give up on loving them, but it should be without any hope or condition of repentance. I love the Hindu scriptures on this, the Bhagavad Gita - never be attached to...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-14-2014, 06:21 PM
Replies: 234
Views: 222,171
Posted By james73
Re: Does 2 Peter 2's warning of false teachers describe Witness Lee?

At risk of getting into verse wars… how did Jesus treat pagans or tax collectors? Luke 5:27:



He ate with them. He did not give up or shun them.
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-14-2014, 05:57 PM
Replies: 234
Views: 222,171
Posted By james73
Re: Does 2 Peter 2's warning of false teachers describe Witness Lee?

Nope I was thinking of Matthew 18:21-22, and I got the number wrong, it was 77 not "7 times 77" as I remembered. Still, the message is: forgive, a lot and much more than you think is reasonable....
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-14-2014, 05:41 PM
Replies: 234
Views: 222,171
Posted By james73
Re: Does 2 Peter 2's warning of false teachers describe Witness Lee?

Interesting question. The easy answer (easy to write from a place with less than one or two gun deaths per year) is, there is no line. In theory, we should let the law handle the machine-gunner, but...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-13-2014, 09:37 PM
Replies: 234
Views: 222,171
Posted By james73
Re: Does 2 Peter 2's warning of false teachers describe Witness Lee?

"So quickly"?? Haha. Delete those two words and you might be onto something.
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-13-2014, 06:17 PM
Replies: 234
Views: 222,171
Posted By james73
Re: Does 2 Peter 2's warning of false teachers describe Witness Lee?

Indeed, and it was worse than just the parts he didn't like. I think all preachers have pet philosophies, ideas and theses they like or avoid, and this should be welcomed in a diverse faith...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 01-12-2014, 05:52 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 38,773
Posted By james73
Re: Love vs. Purity

This is tricky ground… "He is probably not a brother" is the birthplace of dogma and division, since the whole concept of wickedness is subjective. The Jews thought Jesus wicked; they even backed it...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 01-11-2014, 08:19 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 38,773
Posted By james73
Re: Love vs. Purity

I meant, does Jesus not fit your hypothesis very well too? You wrote:


When I read what you wrote there, I had in mind Jesus, not Luther, Darby or Lee. That's what I meant by "what about Jesus?"....
Forum: Apologetic discussions 01-11-2014, 07:07 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 38,773
Posted By james73
Re: Love vs. Purity

Just putting it out there, but what about Jesus? Everything you say there points to Jesus: Spirit of God, religious corruption and hypocrisy, something afresh, purity, eventually deteriorating into a...
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