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Kim Jong Un May Have Caused a Parasitic Worm Epidemic in North Korea By Making Farmers Spread Human Faeces on Their Crops
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I shouldn't laugh. When I was a kid I helped my uncle load up a manure spreader with cow manure from the barn. Then he pulled it up next to our outhouse, and scooped up the outhouse contents, the human fecal matter, and put that into the manure spreader. Then he spread that all over our garden. It grossed me out. But I've never tasted better tomatoes. I hope the best for these North Korean farm workers.
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We should separate food we eat from our fecal matter. He could have used the human fecal matter to fertilize flowers that were sold. This can be a very good cash crop without endangering the population. Surely if they have the technology to make an ICBM with a Hydrogen bomb they know this.
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Thanks for ruining my lunch.
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This North Korean soldier? tried to defect to the South, and they shot him 5 times. They opened him up and found parasitic worms not yet known to medical science. Have a nice lunch!
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I feel sorry for the people of North Korea. They are living in a personality cult that makes the personality cult of the local church look like innocent child's play. Sure we had marches, and all dressed the same in gospel robes. But I don't recall goosestepping.
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I have read that the simple gospel of Jesus Christ is the hope of many.
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North Koreans, just like in China today, I've read, where people have little or no hope, the idea that Jesus will return, ring in the kingdom of God, and end all hunger, disease, and suffering, has very strong and successful appeal. I've read hordes in China are flocking to groups and movements preaching the end times. What's sad is that grifters and con artists see the end times as an opportunity to get rich, off those that are just looking for hope. That's enough to turn any sober minded person off to end times preaching. Harold Camping comes to mind ($95 million). And Jim Bakker, with his $1500.00 End Time Survival Food Buckets.
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The Roy Moore smear job was poorly planned by WaPo.
They have given him far too much time to rebut the allegations, and too much time for others to come forward as character' witnesses. Roy Moore announces 12 testimonials from women affirming his character It's looking like Clarence Thomas deja vu. The left pulled out all stops with famed lawyer Gloria Allred representing the latest of Moore's "victims." Finally they produced their first "real evidence." Turns out their Class Yearbook signature was a total forgery. Roy Moore/da was NOT Roy Moore/district attorney, but Roy Moore/Debra Adams. As is customary, his secretary signed for him, and these idiots just lifted the signature onto the Class Yearbook. Unbelievably stupid. Reminds me of that "legit" Bush letter discovered by disgraced anchor Dan Rather of CBS. Turned out to have proportional spacing before it was even invented. I wonder when those who called Roy Moore a "pig" will be willing to reconsider?
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The issue with Roy Moore is that there is no crime that can be prosecuted. Either the event was too long ago, too little evidence or was not criminal. No, the issue is character. If you are OK with a 30+ year old man cruising the mall to pick up teenagers, then this is a non issue. Other than the 14 year old girl there is no allegation of criminal behavior (as far as I have heard).
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My point is and has been that the allegations are false. The Democrats have an unhealthy advantage in our political system. When accusations come against them, i.e. Franken, Clinton, etc., they never resign and their caucus rallies around them. The Republicans, however, receiving similar accusations are expected to resign, while the rest of their party throws them under the bus. It has been rightly said that Moore's biggest problem is his party affiliation.
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Church leaders say Roy Moore is 'infected by a false Christian religious virus' as they hold a rally in Alabama arguing he is unfit for US Senate
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The fact that this happened about 40 years ago is more than enough for me to think she could have forgotten that the Secretary signed it for the boss. The only thing I would concede is that there has not been any proof of criminal behavior, only the appearance. Also, none of the claims will result in criminal charges.
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The signature was lifted off the divorce decree the woman had. She (and her helpers?) thought it meant "Roy Moore/district attorney" so she used it and forged the rest. She used Atty. Gloria Allred for "legitimacy." When Moore challenged the accusations, demanded to see the original copy of the yearbook, the accuser tried to disappear into the night. Then the accuser's stepson said she did it all for the money. Bezos, via WaPo, via their field operatives, have been dangling cash throughout Alabama. I smell a rat. Many rats. Someone said Mitch McConnell might be involved.
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NEWS FLASHRoy Moore accusations unraveling.. Apparently Moore's accuser has a history of making up stories and dropping them after her pockets are filled with cash. Regarding the only other woman to have made claims of sexual improprieties over Moore’s entire life, Beverly Nelson, her step-son-in-law recently came forward and stated in no uncertain terms that he believes that she is lying, that he had never heard this story regarding Moore before, and that his father is now divorced from Beverly Nelson BECAUSE she is a serial liar. He went even further, and said he would not be surprised if she is receiving money for what he believes to be a fabrication.
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However, if he does not sue, then I will merely believe this is a tale being spun with no repercussions since the allegations will never go to trial.
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But ... we got pics of Franken. We have no evidence of Moore. Still no evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians?
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Presidential historian states "The fish rots from the head and the stench of this administration starts at the very top." https://www.vox.com/2017/11/16/16643...-investigation
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Where was this liberal "historian" for the last 8 years? Today's "swamp" is the rot which Barry O. gave us.
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The assassination of JFK was not a low point? The Great depression was not a low point? The Civil War was not a low point? Slavery was not a low point? KKK and carpet baggers were not a low point? Is this guy for real?
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Woman says Franken inappropriately touched her in 2010
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As for the history of the government, the administrative branch in particular, and the presidency even more so, it is very clearly A low point in our history. Either you can't understand the English language, or you are ready to fight against whatever certain people say and will recharacterize what they say to suit your agenda. Take your pick. I can't figure out any more alternative explanations for the stupidity of your rants. Are you for real?
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My point is that we have come a very long way from slavery and only men voting. This has been over the last 200 years. I didn't even mention things like the Boston Massacre where you weren't even allowed to disagree publicly with the Crown without being vilified or even charged with treason. So yes, any little dip in the road can be seen as "a low point". Once taken to the extreme it is meaningless. Yes I am for real. Trump is a very incompetent politician. One of his "flaws" is that he says the same things they say, only in public. If you listen to the Nixon tapes or view Johnson's transcripts there is nothing particularly "low" with Trump other than this language is public. "Dallek estimates that historical examples of corruption, like that of the Warren G. Harding administration, don’t hold a candle to how Trump and his people have conducted themselves in the White House." Once again I disagree. We have allegations of corruption, but until there are convictions it is absurd to say these allegations are worse than previously confirmed cases of corruption. I consider that 911 was the biggest government scandal in our history, though others will certainly disagree, though those who disagree rarely if ever have studied the case in detail. I also consider JFK's assassination right up there with 911. Once again, perhaps others disagree. I consider the Box 13 scandal to be every bit as heinous as the worst allegations made so far. The worst possible allegations about Trump was that he stole the election. We know this was a fact with LBJ. The Teapot dome scandal and the horrendous conditions in meat packing houses revealed in "The Jungle" are certainly worse than anything we have confirmed today. Trump's worst statements cannot hold a candle to the accepted behavior during the time of slavery. The public debates in the Senate and house were far worse than anything Trump has said. Now if Trump starts a nuclear war with North Korea then OK, it will rank up there with Johnson escalating the Vietnam war after the JFK assassination, or with the bogus reason we went to war based on the make believe attack on our Navy. However, you can't blame trump for North Korea getting a hydrogen bomb and an ICBM. Also, if this didn't cross the line we drew in the sand (again not Trump) then nothing does. So if we do go to war with North Korea I would put some of the responsibility on all of the preceding administrations that led up to this. What is truly unprecedented is how partisan and insulting the discourse is in the news. This change began after JFK was killed, got worse with LBJ's amping up the Vietnam war, got a boost with Watergate, and has become absolutely toxic since the mortgage crisis. It is too soon to say that Trump is our worst president ever, and so far the evidence would not support that though who knows how it will all end. To me this 24 hour news cycle and desperation to fill every minute with controversial dialogue is what is unprecedented and the worst and nothing in our past holds a candle to it. Eliminate everyone of Trump's tweets and all you have are a few major foot in the mouth issues and gaffes, something all too common to every politician.
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We went to war with Iraq over the 911 incident. Our president justified this because of Weapons of Mass destruction. This war cost us more than $1 Trillion. There were no weapons of mass destruction, it was a lie. How many people were killed or injured because of this lie? How can anyone compare anything Trump has done to that? Are they for real?
The worst allegation about Trump is that he colluded with the Russians to win the election. Certainly you realize that previous presidents like Reagan were bought and owned by the Oil industry and that it was in defense of the oil industry that we went to war in Iraq twice and spent over $1 trillion. How can anything Trump has done so far compare to that? Are they for real?
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You been watching too much of CNN -- the Clinton News Network. MSM has made things toxic. Look at those kids from UCLA. They could have suffered the fate of Otto Warbling, but instead Trump got them released. Then they, nor their parents, don't even have the courtesy to even thank him. Reminds me of the 9 Lepers Jesus healed. The MSM has manufactured every scandal in the news -- from the Russian collusion to Melania's stiletto's. Even noted Liberal Jimmy Carter noted how badly Trump has been treated. Except for Martin Luther and John Ingalls, I have never seen any one take such a beating and keep going. Take every news hit job against Trump and Co. and compare it to Clinton, Obama, and Comey selling Uranium reserves to Putin.
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Last I checked chemicals are WMD.
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1. Iraq had nothing to do with Al Qaeda. 2. Colin Powell sold us on the threat of them getting Nuclear weapons. It was bogus and he later felt he had been misled. This is what I was referring to as "it was a lie". 3. Those tasked with finding the WMD's felt they were mismanaged. What we did find was not a legitimate reason to start this trillion dollar war. If our true concern was the gas why didn't we do something after they gassed the Kurds, why wait? By the way, has the war ever ended?
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It's just that it seems he has an itchy trigger finger for The Button, that rattles me. Other than that I'm beginning to think that it's great to have a clown as our president. All eyes on Trump. He loves that. He'll even inflate it, he needs it so badly. Still, Trump intrudes everywhere we look. If only we could stop looking.
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Trump Supporter Says He’d Trust The President Before Jesus Christ
“If Jesus Christ gets down off the cross and told me Trump is with Russia, I would tell him, ‘Hold on a second, I need to check with the president if it’s true.’” https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ushpmg00000009
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Personally I felt that Dubya was fooled by a few Iraqi academic refugees (non muslem) that the Iraqi people would embrace democracy, given the chance. Perhaps the Kurds or Yazidis might, but never the Sunni Muslims. I'd like to know what influence Bush 41 had on the decision. And what's with these people in power? Every day another girl comes forth with accusations. Apparently Bush 41 can't keep his hands to himself! Now we hear Charlie Rose is included also.
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The GOP is using the Trump tactic of accusing their opponents of their own weaknesses. The object is to create a false equivalency in the minds of public. They seek to divert attention from their vulnerabilities and normalize their corrupt and sociopathic behaviors. By attacking Franken, they hope to muddy the water enough to slide Moore through.
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Weinstein, Clinton, Franken, today Charlie Rose, tomorrow John Conyer. Just keep throwing those large-worded mud-balls at Trump to divert attention from the truth.
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No doubt there are plenty of instances of sexual harassment by Dems and libs. That doesn't exonerate or give a pass to Trump or Moore. Why don't they apologize like Bush, Franken and now Rose have done? Isn't that the Christian thing to do?
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This soldier was a member of an elite guard. Sun Tzu said you could see the condition of the entire army from a single soldier. I think it is safe to conclude that these parasites will be wide spread, maybe even the majority of the country. What we are going to see is our special ops kick into high gear trying to get someone to overthrow Kim Jong Un. The deal will probably be -- overthrow Kim, dismantle the nuclear program and China will come in with aid, fertilizer, health care, and the US will lift all the sanctions. It is a dangerous time to be a madman.
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Republicans are out to rig the tax system to benefit big corporations and wealthy individuals even more than it already is. The Joint Committee on Taxation found that over the next ten years, Trump's tax plan will raise taxes for households making less than $75,000 a year. It will instantly trigger $400 billion in automatic cuts to Medicare in the next ten years, including $25 billion in the first year alone. I would think this would be a heavy blow to a lot of the people who voted for Trump.
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I remember one year John Boehner promised a tax on the rich all year. Then we woke up on Christmas and the Social Security deduction was raised 2%. You want to tax the rich? Remove the upper limit on the SS tax!
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I agree with you strongly on this point!
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And wishing you all a very happy Thanksgiving!
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That said if he is innocent he has to sue them for defamation and damages. You have an alleged case of forgery and you have security guards and coworkers claiming his reputation as a predator was well known. He can claim he is innocent because you the statute of limitations has expired, but unless he or the party sues for slander I will not believe him.
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In one of the fastest and most astonishing turnarounds in the history of energy, building and running new renewable energy is now cheaper than just running existing coal and nuclear plants in many areas. A widely-used yearly benchmarking study — the Levelized Cost of Energy Analysis (LCOE) from the financial firm Lazard Ltd. — reached this stunning conclusion: In many regions “the full-lifecycle costs of building and operating renewables-based projects have dropped below the operating costs alone of conventional generation technologies such as coal or nuclear.”
Prior to this you had to factor in health costs and environmental costs. This is stunning.
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The jury is out on the Roy Moore accusations, but one thing we know, he never fit the classic profile of a pedophile. His accusers are being called liars, and women are starting to stand by him. Like I said, WaPo made the mistake of running their hit piece too early, and now I'm sure they regret it. What we are learning about Doug Jones, however, will drip drip drip until long after election day. So much for Jonesy the hypocrite protecting young defenseless girls: Accuser in UAB sex abuse case calls out Doug Jones for 'hypocrisy' for his position on Moore accusers I just watched Janet Porter President of Faith2Action debunk the anti-Moore fake news on MSNBC. I happened to read that somehow Breitbart News forced WaPo to come out with this story prematurely and ahead of schedule, thus giving Moore and his supporters way too much time to defend himself against the lies.
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So Trump broke his silence on Moore and said "We don't need a liberal in there." So the pubbies are willing to take a pedophile scumbag rather than a liberal.
Sounds like something out of bro Ohio's playbook.
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Doesn't seem like you care for the actual facts of the case. And then you implicate me! You may as well include all evangelical Christians too. I remember how you have said that "Christians lie." How about these accusers all lying for money?
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It's a problem of Christian fundamentalism. They operate from the courtship-purity movement, promoted by the Biblical Patriarchy and Quiverfull movements, widely influential in Christian homeschooling circles. Girls who are 14 are seen as potential relationship material. Girls are raised to be “pure,” meek, dependent and submissive with the goal of becoming appropriate “help-meets” for much older men. Marriage to the under age girls, by older Christian men, is arranged by fundamentalists parents. And bro Ohio, Moore is a Christian Reconstructionist. I thought they tried to recruit the church you and your wife were attending ... and you disagreed with them. Have you changed your mind?
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I did change my mind, after I saw her story falling apart, deconstructed by the facts, and so many testifying on behalf of Moore's character, not because of your crazy religious ideas, but because of the way he has handled himself his entire adult life. Read the news. The "new" news. With their congressional slush fund, providing shush money, no one would dare come after Moore once he is elected. They are all afraid of being outed next. So ... sorry bro! I know you love it when Christians "crash and burn," but perhaps another time. You will have to settle for a Rand Paul "crash." But no burning for Moore.
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Also, it is as though you are completely ignoring the political motivation that could have prompted this attack. Personally I believe there must be something to it for there to be so many witnesses. But when it comes to "pedophile" it is simply one 14 year old's testimony versus his. Also, I don't even know the specifics of the law whether or not her allegations would rise to the level of "pedophile". The only thing that I feel has been confirmed by all people is that he dated teenagers that were 10 or 15 years younger than him.
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You say his accusers are paid. But Mitch McConnell believes them. So far there are 8 accusers of Moore. Some of them at least sound credible. He was banned from the mall foe chasing young girls, even a cop came out and said everyone knew Moore went after under age girls. And even the YMCA banned him. That's a lot of made up facts (good thing Soros has deep pockets). You think your facts are true. From where do you get your facts. Or is your support not dependent on facts, but on emotion. Are you sure you're not 'infected by a false Christian religious virus?'
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Unless I am mistaken an unwanted sexual overture is not a felony. It can be viewed as predatory and alarming, but not criminal.
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Now you believe him? You guys finally make up? Your enemy is no longer your enemy cause the enemy of your enemy is now your friend! Completely understandable!
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And they were probably pretty too! Nice, outgoing personalities! Perhaps came from established well-to-do families! Makes sense. His wife was 14 years younger than him and pretty. ..................................... Yup. Lock him up!
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We are all infected by some religious "virus." We are all "against science" and the facts of history. We are all "blinded" by faith and brain dead. We are all "emotional" bigots who can't think rationally. ........................... That has to be the explanation. Right?
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Court Documents Raise Significant Questions About Leigh Corfman’s Accusations Against Roy Moore The case against Roy Moore is that he dated pretty, young girls after serving in the military and finishing his law degree. Nothing wrong here. Eventually he found one and married her. So WaPo had to find one instance of underage dating -- Corfman. And then they had to add salicious data to connect Moore with the like of Harvey Weinstein and these other predators. WaPo needed one good victim! Can't find one? Then Corfman will have to do. And let's hope the election occurs before the real facts of the case come out.
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Me and Mitcheepoo ... a bromance for the history books. Yes I don't trust Mitch. For what he did to us between the rivers folks. I'm just saying, that some believe the accusers. And they are piling up. Now a retired Alabama cop came out and admitted that back then, they were told to keep Roy Moore away from the cheerleaders ... and he reconfirmed the mall banning. All these accusers? They must be breaking Soros' bank.
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Science? The Scopes trial ... don't forget that. And who said anything about bigots? But now that you bring it up, I know Christian bigots ... in my extended family. I can't say there is a causal link, but they are republican Fox news watchers ... and like Breitbart. I haven't asked what they think of Roy Moore. But I think I know their position, without asking. They liked that he's a Biblical man of God, that fights for the 10 commandments. Prolly some of the same reasons for why you are so gung-ho for Moore. At the cost of giving Christianity a bad name.
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I waited until some of the facts were vetted before I jumped on the Kill Moore crusade. I have learned when the entire MSM believes something, then good chance they got it wrong. (Kind of like no way Hillary could lose to Trump.) The more I waited, the more his accusers got debunked. None of them were believable compared to all of SwineStein's victims. How does that give Christianity a bad name when I decide not to believe a lie? Do you have any idea how manipulating you are in the name of Christ? You can take the boy out of the LC, but can't take the LC out of the boy!
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But I think Mitch's attitude toward Moore is because of Bannon, who's got it out for Mitch, and ain't afraid to broadcast it. I don't like either of them. Nor do I like Moore. Christian Dominionists scare me. Theocracies always go bad. We learned that with witness Lee, if not other places. Quote:
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37 percent of evangelicals say they’re more likely to support Roy Moore after sexual assault allegations. Here’s why I’m skeptical of that. Updated by Thomas S. Kidd, distinguished professor of history at Baylor University. Nov 22, 2017, 8:20am EST https://www.vox.com/first-person/201...ngelical-voter
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Highlights some of the frustrations I confront with awareness' recent posts.
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Another point. Most voters, given the time, will look for the "greater good." If I were voting in Alabama, I would have to examine the extreme liberal views of Jones. His support of full term abortions is very troubling. And what about his attacks on that child prodigy who was basically a "plaything," while he defended the University football team. Jones is no friend of the unborn or of the molested minor girls. How could I as a "evangelical" vote for Jones, when I believe abortion is murder?
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Here's a reply I made recently to a friend who posted a Facebook meme proposing that we call Evangelicals the "American Taliban."
"The author contradicts himself by saying at one point that not all evangelicals are extremists and then concluding that evangelicals are the American Taliban. The Taliban are Muslim extremists. It's a similar overgeneralization whereby all Muslims are prejudged because of the extremism of a minority among them. I interact with Evangelicals everyday. Their political opinions run the gamut from right to left. Our country is polarized in way that is creating social dysfunction. Stereotyping like the author engages in are misleading. It's a false equivalency. Evangelicals in general are not extremists like the Taliban. So the meme's proposition is false."
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As a mental health counselor she has been trained to identify her biases and keep them at a distance, yet due to the current toxic political and social climate, she is frankly unable. This is concerning. Since she lives in the liberal NYC area, her bias is not so evident, but here in the midwest, she definitely could not practice. This is why main stream media is so dangerous. They are stirring social unrest. They are no longer journalists caring for accurate reporting. They are strictly purveyors of liberal opinions designed to create tension in America. They purposely use inflammatory rhetoric to incite their audience, e.g. like the recent connection of Trump to Charles Manson.
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Bahahahaha ... and bro Ohio wonders why I'm critical of Christians.
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What is worse to you? Dating young girls or the slaughter of the unborn? ............................. I think in your mind Christians should only vote for sinless and perfect candidates, iow, never vote at all!
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A false ethical dilemma. One can choose to support neither. My inner Protestant counsels against the perfectionism that my inner Pagan is inclined to pursue. Historically the pursuit of purity led to Nazism. There is more of a touch of perfectionism in the LCM.
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Sure, care about 'em in the womb, but not afterward.
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This is the exact choose many are faced with. The false dilemma is the left's constant connection of Nazism with the right.
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Bogus.
The former is terminal. Abortion is final. If Jones cared at all for the "afterwards," then he would not have attacked the rape victim to protect the University. The Left cares nothing for the "afterwards" as we see everyday in the news. It's too bad their hypocrisy is so hard for you to see thru.
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I thought the Unite the Right did that. And they aren't left.
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If the concern was for the women then they would have exposed this as soon as possible. Waiting until it was too late to take his name off the ballot demonstrates 0 concern for the women. This was 100% political. The only way a democrat wins this race.
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This has all the same characteristics as the Russian Dossier to smear Trump.
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Roy Moore's candidacy represents a double slam on women. He advocates taking away a woman's right to choose and ignoring women who testify that he sexually assaulted them when they were children. Woman bashing in the name of the Bible seems to be a pretty consistent theme for this guy.
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It reminds me of the Southern Baptists, using the Bible in support of slavery.
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Abortion is true fascism -- the powers that be determining who is allowed to live and who is not. Trump is not a fascist, but abortion advocates might be
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And the Bible very early on tells we're not a living soul until the first breath. Genesis 2:7.
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1. All of these abuse claims, not just Moore but also Weinstein, Franken, etc generally boil down to "he said, she said". Therefore you shouldn't discount it or dismiss it simply because this is the type of evidence. On the contrary, the predators understand this which is why they have the boldness to pull this stuff. Instead the Biblical standard that I think applies here is 2 or 3 witnesses as a bare minimum. Whenever we see a sexual predator like Weinstein there will be multiple cases, not a single case. 2. Political campaigns are about destroying credibility, especially if you are in a campaign where no one in your party has won in many years. The only possible chance the democrat had was if Moore self destructed. You should expect that they will turn molehills into mountains. When these stories come out right after the deadline to change names on the ballot they should be especially suspect. If we begin to eliminate candidates based on hearsay and allegations then these campaigns will become even uglier. 3. There are facts in this case that can be used to inform voters. One fact is that Moore has never been charged with this crime of pedophilia, much less convicted. Another fact is that the Mall was on the lookout for him seeing him as someone that targeted teenage girls. Based on that you can reasonably conclude that he was a creep, but that it didn't rise to the level of a case that a prosecutor would prosecute. However, the discourse on this is quite different, many willing to call him a "pedophile" even though he was never convicted of this crime. 4. It is important to weigh the evidence and discuss the evidence in order to make an informed decision, but most of those who have shaped the discourse clearly are biased on one side or the other. This is quite evident concerning the media's reporting. 5. One of the ugliest allegations is that a "vote for Roy Moore is a vote for sexual predators". The inference is that democrats are concerned about women while republicans aren't. If the allegations that Roy Moore was a sexual predator are true it would mean that women, many women, have known this for 30+ years. However, they did not come forward until well into this campaign, so far in fact that it was no longer possible to drop his name. This is not evidence that they care about women, but rather they would risk a predator being elected if it gives them a better chance of gaining a seat. Someone who truly cared about women would have raised this issue earlier.
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I read that support for Roy Moore has fallen in every voter sector except among evangelical Christians. What does that say to the world?
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Perhaps those who regularly confront the stratagems of the devil are more apt to see thru a Bezos/WaPo smear campaign.
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Experience has taught me that, when pursuing the truth, demonizing others isn't helpful.
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I'd prolly still be an evangelical if their discernment's were actually up to snuff. I long ago discovered their discernment wasn't any better than those of unbelievers.
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If you are so concerned with finding the truth and not demonizing others then surely you can realize that the Supreme court has no authority to make laws. There was nothing in the Constitution concerning abortion, therefore it should have been a states right to decide. The decision in Roe V Wade was unconstitutional. That is the underlying cause of all this ugly division.
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So you found out that evangelicals believe that life starts at conception?
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"Over 1.3 million anti-net neutrality FCC comments are likely fakes"
Apparently Russia is not the only one using their resources to manipulate public opinion. "Out of 22 million total comments, only 800,000 appear to be genuinely original -- and 99 percent of them support net neutrality."
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Then, I found out that they believe that life begins with the appetizer. I kid. But they do believe life begins with conception. However, biologically, life doesn't begin, it just continues. I think a few things about abortion. 1) One penis, no vote. The best a male evangelical can do is keep it in his pants.And bro Ohio, unless your wife is pregnant, and considering an abortion, you don't have a dog in this fight. Let it go, or move.
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But it doesn't say anything about fondling 14 year old girls ... even with the permission of their mother. Why? Because, everyone knows it's wrong, except, apparently, evangelicals ... then it's Mary, and Elizabeth, did it.
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If the choice was between an innocent and guilty man then you would have an argument. Problem is the choice is between two guilty parties. That is the problem with your argument, you point out the guilt of one side and ignore the guilt of the other.
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Think of the irony that the restrictions on abortion are tighter and more stringent now than prior to the ruling. If the Supreme court had simply argued that this is a state's rights issue what would have happened? Some states would have outlawed it, perhaps Texas would be in that category, hard to tell. Some states would have put in restrictions and regulations, probably NY and California would be in that category. Some states would have legalized it completely, perhaps Nevada, etc. But you would have taken the rug out from any who would protest. Against abortion, move to where it is illegal. For abortion, what is the big issue, if you don't want to move simply go out of state when necessary. Not only would this have put a stop to most protests, it would have also eliminated it from the discourse in national politics. Congressmen, Senators and presidents would not need to say anything more than "that is a state's right issue". As for local politicians it could easily have become a referendum issue, just like legalizing Pot or some other topic. So instead of blaming Evangelicals why not look in the mirror? The man in the mirror is the only one you have authority to change. Blaming Evangelicals suggest to me you aren't really serious about a solution.
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As it happened not only with Philip, but another Lee son to be sent back to Taiwan. It was the offended party that were sent away from Southern California to San Fran.
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The US is a republic founded on a constitution. If the powers that be ignore or twist that constitution then it is unreasonable to assume they will not reap the wind. They thought they could put it behind them, they didn't. They thought it would resolve the matter, it didn't. What is the fear in making this a state's right issue? A simple solution that would immediately remove it from all political campaigns for national office.
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It has to be changed because the Founders never envisioned things like cell phones and the internet. Thus saith Al Gore, notable carbon bigfoot.
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LSM crowns Lee as the consummate MOTA, like unto Noah of old. But there's a slight problem here folks ... Noah was a righteous man and blameless. (Gen 6.9)
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The three fundamental problems with Roe v. Wade
1. Unjust First, and most importantly, the outcome of Roe is harmful and unjust. Why? The facts of embryology show that the human embryo or fetus (the being whose life is ended in abortion) is a distinct and living human organism at the earliest stages of development. "Human development begins at fertilization when a sperm fuses with an oocyte to form a single cell, a zygote," explains a leading embryology textbook. "This highly specialized, totipotent cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual." Justice requires that the law protect the equal dignity and basic rights of every member of the human family—irrespective of age, size, ability, dependency, and the desires and decisions of others. This principle of human equality, affirmed in the Declaration of Independence and the United Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is the moral core of western civilization. But the Roe Court ruled, to the contrary, that a particular class of innocent human beings (the unborn) must be excluded from the protection of the law and allowed to be dismembered and killed at the discretion of others. "The right created by the Supreme Court in Roe," observes University of St. Thomas law professor Michael Stokes Paulsen, "is a constitutional right of some human beings to kill other human beings." After Roe, the incidence of abortion rose dramatically, quickly topping one million abortions per year and peaking at 1.6 million in 1990 before gradually declining to just under one million in 2014 (the latest year for which complete estimates are available). Under the Roe regime, abortion is the leading cause of human death. More than 59 million human beings have now been legally killed. And abortion has detrimentally impacted the health and well-being of many women (and men). The gravity and scale of this injustice exceed that of any other issue or concern in American society today. 2. Unconstitutional The second problem with Roe is that it is an epic constitutional mistake. Justice Harry Blackmun's majority opinion claimed that the "right of privacy" found in the "liberty" protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment is "broad enough to encompass" a fundamental right to abortion. There is no reason to think that's true. "What is frightening about Roe," noted the eminent constitutional scholar and Yale law professor John Hart Ely (who personally supported legalized abortion), "is that this super-protected right is not inferable from the language of the Constitution, the framers' thinking respecting the specific problem in issue, any general value derivable from the provisions they included, or the nation's governmental structure. … It is bad because it is bad constitutional law, or rather because it is not constitutional law and gives almost no sense of an obligation to try to be." Indeed, "[a]s a matter of constitutional interpretation and judicial method," writes Edward Lazarus, a former Blackmun clerk who is "utterly committed" to legalized abortion, "Roe borders on the indefensible. ... Justice Blackmun's opinion provides essentially no reasoning in support of its holding. And in the … years since Roe's announcement, no one has produced a convincing defense of Roe on its own terms." But Roe is even more ridiculous than most observers realize. The American people adopted the Fourteenth Amendment during an era in which those same American people enacted numerous state laws with the primary purpose of protecting unborn children from abortion. A century later, Roe ruled that the Fourteenth Amendment somehow prevents Americans from doing what the ratifiers of the Fourteenth Amendment actually did. "To reach its result," Justice William Rehnquist quipped in his dissenting opinion, "the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to the drafters of the Amendment." That's absurd. "The only conclusion possible from this history," Rehnquist explained, "is that the drafters did not intend to have the Fourteenth Amendment withdraw from the States the power to legislate with respect to this matter." 3. Undemocratic Third, Roe is undemocratic. Roe and Doe v. Bolton together struck down the democratically decided abortion laws of all 50 states and replaced them with a nationwide policy of abortion-for-any-reason, whether the people like it or not. Of course, the Court may properly invalidate statutes that are inconsistent with the Constitution (which is the highest law). But Roe lacked any such justification. Justice Byron White, a dissenter in Roe, explained the problem in his dissent in Thornburgh v. American College of Obstetricians & Gynecologists. "[T]he Constitution itself is ordained and established by the people of the United States," he wrote. "[D]ecisions that find in the Constitution principles or values that cannot fairly be read into that document usurp the people's authority, for such decisions represent choices that the people have never made, and that they cannot disavow through corrective legislation." Roe defied the Constitution and other laws that the American people agreed upon—and imposed the will of the unelected Court instead.
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Court Documents: Roy Moore Accuser Has ‘Violent Nature,’ History of Criminal Fraud Against Own Family
The liberal media will stoop down to new lows in their efforts to subvert the democratic process in Alabama.
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When can we kick politicians out of office? Seems never. Weinstein's career is ended, Kevin Spacey too. Hollywood is falling apart. But Franken is okay. John Conyers steps down from committee, but isn't going to resign ... or get kicked out. There's lots of examples, on both sides if the isle. Politicians can keep their jobs, while others that are politicians lose their job. Or they then go on to get a good lobbying job, their own TV or radio show, or work for Fox news, MSNBC, or some other high paying job. Politics has always been dirty, but it's now too dirty for any earnest Christian to be a part of. But that's not stopping Christians today. They seem fine with immorality, as long as their party wins.
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We must also consider who the accusers are. When a politician molests his own staff, hired due to a similar ideological / political basis, then it is safe to say that their accusations are probably not a political hit job. When we have incriminating evidence like pictures, it also adds credibility to their claims. Roy Moore has neither of those against him. These women never "came forward" with charges. Wealthy liberal opposition investigators sought out women to make charges. There are now all sorts of reports of reporters in Alabama today looking for anybody to trash Moore. For a price. Every day there is also another counter-report, filled with actual facts, rebutting these claims. All manner of character witnesses are stepping forward on Moore's behalf. This is completely the opposite of Hollywood and the latest Franken/Conyer accusations. Then we hear about these Congressional "shush" funds. Don't they always say "follow the money?" Where is the money trail incriminating Moore? Doug Jones is outspending him by record numbers, and still the voters have not abandoned him. Why is that? Your only answer is that they are Cretin evangelicals. Perhaps another answer exists. Perhaps they can smell a rat? Lots of them! Outside media types with money and an agenda? Don't you just love it when all these atheist liberals clamor to the conservative or God-fearing about there being a "special place in hell" for them. One dingbat even pronounced this judgment upon all women who did NOT vote for Hillary. And they wonder why the conservatives never listen to them. (Including Ivanka.)
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I hate to admit it, but I agree with the archbishop of Canterbury.
Archbishop of Canterbury baffled by Christians who back Trump "There's two things going through my mind: Do I say what I think, or do I say what I should say? And I'm going to say what I think," he said on the show, referring to the support Trump has garnered, especially from so-called Evangelical Christians. "No, I don't understand it. I really genuinely do not understand where that is coming from."
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So then the Christian is faced with two evils -- vote for abortion, or vote for a man accused of being a creep. If you take abortion off the table (make it a State's rights issue) you would see that many Christians would begin to vote democrat.
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Moore was only accused. Since it will never go before a jury, we must weigh the accusers against other witnesses. Don't you teach at a NYC high school? What if you were falsely accused of sexual impropriety by three girls whom you happened to fail in a test. The three went to the local news and your picture was plastered on the New York Times. Fellow teachers threatened to resign in protest unless you were immediately fired. Teachers were up in arms, a public relations nightmare. Slowly over time you had to prove not only that it didn't happen, but that it couldn't happen. Meanwhile you start racking up legal bills, and since you don't qualify for unemployment, you have no money coming in. What if your union officials decided not to back you for some personal reason. Six months later you are acquitted of molesting underage girls. Your name and reputation are sullied. Your friends look at you suspiciously. Pretty nasty huh? Think about the Duke Lacrosse team. Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, and many others. The evidence is mounting that these accusations are a political hit job. I'm a little surprised you, with your forensics background, were so quick to tag him a pig and a creep.
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This would certainly cost me at least 1 year. But during that time I am paid and accrue other benefits as well. If my colleagues were demanding that I be fired I would be outraged and would no longer work at that school. Most likely choosing to retire once this was all over. Provided I was exonerated I would get a full pension and then could begin working at a number of other options for teachers while at the same time receiving my pension. I would not be required to prove anything more than I am not guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". However, if my name and reputation were sullied and it was tough to get one of the many other jobs available that would add more fuel to the lawsuit for libel and defamation. Because of the potential liability schools try to keep these charges as quiet as possible while they go through the due process. However, what is fair game is if the girls went to the police and the police felt there was enough evidence to arrest the teacher. The newspaper and media are free to publish the fact that someone was arrested, etc. However, if a Grand Jury determines there is not enough evidence to indict then the police and newspaper could be liable and would likely settle rather than go to court. This is why I don't feel sorry for the Duke Lacrosse team, check out the settlement that Rolling Stone magazine had to pay, not to mention the rights to the story and movie. Also, as it pertains to this case there are 40 other teachers in my school who work closely with for many years. They could testify whether or not they observed any behavior that would support the girls testimony or refute it. Likewise, there is a record of every girl I ever taught since my class rosters are a matter of public record. Therefore the Defense or Prosecution could track down and see if any of the other girls also observed this behavior. If I had 20 students and teachers claiming these charges are BS the girls would be completely shamed. On the other hand if all the other teachers said that "this teacher liked to hang out with the girls" and the teacher's students said the same, then that would certainly not help this teacher's case.
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I guess you can just go ahead calling him a creep then.
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Recently we began to be rated by our students results on exams. I love this because the politics of bad principals can no longer threaten you. If his claim that this is completely false is true then he has a very good case for a lawsuit. If he pursues it he can clear his name, just as the Duke Lacrosse team. If he doesn't then yes, I'll continue calling him a creep.
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But Moore is a Christian, so what if he is convicted by I Cor 6 not to sue these women? And if he won, would he really clear his name? Damned if he does, damned if he don't. Always a creep eh? OK, perhaps I'm finished with this topic.
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There is no reason not to go through with that unless he knows it isn't a fraud.
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Moore is running as a Republican, but the Party won't back him, in fact numerous Republican Senators want him to step down and thus give Alabama to the Democratic Party. Unbelievable! The Never-Trumpers are now the Never-Moore's. Pretty incredible! Look at what McConnell did -- immediately (within one hour) he asked for Moore to withdraw, but with Franken he only wants an Ethics Committee investigation, where matters like this reside until the heat passes over. McConnell is now Majority Leader of the Grand Old Swamp Party.
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O'Keefe strikes again ... a swing and a miss. Right wing attempt to discredit WaPo.
WaPo Busts James O’Keefe’s Failed Attempt to Fool Them With Fake Roy Moore Accuser https://www.mediaite.com/online/wash...moore-accuser/
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Likewise the allegation about him being on a watch by Mall cops could easily be proven or disproved. In both of these cases if he alleged slander and libel the burden would be on them to prove their claims. If they didn't bring forth evidence backing the claim they would lose. He can claim everything is false because he knows their will be no trial. The only way there will be a trial is if he brings one for slander, but if he does that then they can counter sue. So, when I look at the evidence what do I see: 1. Multiple accusations that individually are not (for the most part) criminal, but they are creepy. 2. Corroboration from coworkers of his, again not of criminality but of creepiness. 3. Corroboration from Mall cops. 4. Corroboration from a phone call to the school. 5. Corroboration from Roy Moore who says he never dated a girl without the mother's permission. and finally, 6. Corroboration from the yearbook. If the yearbook were proven false I would also dismiss the phone call without hard and solid evidence. If the Mall cops claim were proven false then I would agree with you that this was a political attack of the lowest and most despicable level. On the other hand if he does not work to clear his name on those two counts I will accept their claims and dismiss his denial as the lies of a liar who knows he won't have to prove it. There is of course another possibility. He may have intentionally chosen to date 17 and 18 year olds, which in Alabama was probably legal. He may have also mistakenly had that adventure with the 14 year old since she was a waitress and he didn't realize she wasn't 17. That is the risk you take when you date 17 year olds. If this is the case I don't think it is fair to label him a pedophile, but creep does seem very appropriate.
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As should have Bill Clinton even prior to being elected president on the basis of evidence against him in the Paula Jones and Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey cases. I was not a fan of the man. I didn't vote in the presidential election of 1991 cuz I didn't like either major party candidate nor Ross Perot. In the next presidential election I voted for Ralph Nader.
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They need to reveal which in Congress have used this secret "Shush" Fund.
Term limits would help too.
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Wouldn't that be something available under the freedom of information act?
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Racist Trump has a long history of verbal attacks on Native Americans. http://www.newsweek.com/trump-pocaho...ericans-724204 Staging the code talker ceremony in front of infamous Indian killer Andrew Jackson was a dog whistle to his racist supporters.
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No, I don't. Trump disrespected them. He turned the ceremony that was supposedly to honor the code talkers into a stunt to designed to embarrass Elizabeth Warren because she has been highly visible in her opposition to the Republican tax scam in the senate. It was a bully's tactic. He has no shame. Zephaniah 3:5
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Harvard University highly promoted their diverse teaching staff to include Native Americans based on E-Warren's deceptions. It's so refreshing to have a Prez who is not afraid to expose PC lies. Instead of apologizing for her deceit, Pocahontus and the liberal media twist the story into a minority attack, which all cretin liberals just swallow. Reminds me of all those in Mass. who believed John Kerry was Irish, and the kept electing him as their Senator.
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It has nothing to do with the heroism of the Code Talkers. We are in a highly politicized climate. Each side using every opportunity to bash the other. Not much different from liberals bashing Trump at Christmas, or Thanksgiving, or New Years, or a Commencement. Each side cheers when it happens. But Trump never disrespected the last surviving Code Talkers, who were heroes, he only disrespected Warren, who deceived us into thinking that she was Native American. She also deceived Harvard Univ. and all the staff and students there. Trump was just bad-mouthing his future 2020 political rival. Kind of stuff he faces regularly in the media. I don't like it, but unfortunately it's the world we live in. It's toxic. It's political war. It goes on every day. Both sides blame the other. Can't see it getting any better either.
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Genetic testing could easily prove if she had any appreciable amount of native heritage. Since she refuses to verify her claim this charge will continue to haunt her.
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Matt Lauer is the latest to be terminated.
He was the king in morning news. Hard to believe. Shock waves ...
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We now have people who hate their "whiteness," and decide they are a person of color locked up in a "white" body. Oh the available perks ... As one brother/doctor from M.I.T. once told me, "I am a native American, I was born here."
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What is very interesting is Hope Solo's charge. Will American sensibilities spread worldwide? Are European power brokers also going to be held up to the same standards? What about Asian, African, Russian? If you think American leaders are corrupt wait till we lift that sheet.
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You've obviously been in the garlic room too long.
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Garrison Keillor fired by Minnesota Public Radio over allegations of inappropriate behavior
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-behavior.html His Plymouth Brethren parents prolly aren't pleased.
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I think that is the first time I have seen the term "refreshing" used to refer to President Trump.
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Time to get out of that big city swamp, and visit a rural Red State for a change, where PC talk is despicable.
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Huh? Translation please.
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Wasn't she charged with domestic violence? Explain?
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Her charge and his response indicates that it is business as usual, or that is what they hope. I doubt that will be the case.
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You do know that Trump is from NY. Are you saying he's a creature from the swamp?
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Trump got out, and you can too!
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Now I know you aren't talking about Washington!
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From al.com (Alabama local news) :
Roy Moore co-authored course saying women shouldn't run for office http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/201...roy_moore.html Teaching Biblical patriarchy, and criticizing women’s suffrage.
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My friend Hosepipe says all our troubles began when women got to vote. I think it was the formation of the Federal Reserve, 7 years before women got the vote.
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Bro Ohio, here's your shush fund :
Politico on Friday identified Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-Texas) as the congressman who used $84,000 in taxpayer funds to settle a sexual harassment claim. Farenthold said he believed the solution saved taxpayers money. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ushpmg00000009
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Mueller doesn't work with Flynn unless Flynn can give a bigger fish. That eliminates the whole "rogue operator" claim. Hard to see that any "bigger fish" is not in Trump's inner circle. On the other hand no way Flynn works with Mueller unless he is guilty and they have the evidence.
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I read that Flynn has promised “full cooperation” in the special counsel’s Russia investigation and is willing to testify that Donald Trump directed him to contact the Russians. Clearly Trump lied repeatedly and sought to obstruct justice. How can congress fail to impeach him? And lets not forget Pence's lies and covering up. He should go down too.
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You should talk to Flynn and straighten him out. He seems to lack your clear vision just now.
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Both he and Manafort and others had connections with Russians before Trump even announced his Presidency. Sorry your vision is so dimmed by hatred. Mueller and Comey allowed the Obama administration and the Clintons to escape numerous felonies and treason. No justice here. This is a hit job. These deep state operatives are willing to destroy the nation for personal gains. Pretty sad.
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Bahahahaha. If this isn't projection I don't know what is.
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But Trump said he'd pick the best. And this is what he selected. Obviously he didn't explain what best meant. The best what?
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Who do you suppose I hate? Only the tyrants and bullies who deceive and prey upon the weak. I count Trump among the most dangerous of that ilk. You may ask what about this one or what about that one? But, only Trump is the POTUS in the position to do the maximum damage. And, he must be stopped before he has the chance.
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Well Trump has explained why he had to fire Flynn. Sad that Flynn would lie about this stuff to the FBI and Senate when nothing illegal was done. Almost makes you wonder why Flynn lied.
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Why would you believe the spin of a chronic liar like Trump? Nothing illegal was done? Really? Flynn would lie to cover up, obviously.
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Want to stop all this sexual harassment in Washington? Then vote only for those without a penis.
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The Senate GOP :"Before we discuss raising taxes on the poor & middle class, adding $1 trillion to the deficit, taking health insurance away from 13 million, raising premiums by 10%, defending treason and swearing in a pedophile, let's begin with a prayer."
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"You have to believe it's getting better, it's getting better all the time. {It can't get no worse.}"
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Seriously? You really think sexual harassment is only by men? It is by people in power, male or female.
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I think people have misunderstood all the tolerance of Trump. Yes he tolerates Roy Moore, and yes he tolerates the KKK, he tolerates war heroes who aren't really war heroes, he tolerates gold star parents who are democrats, etc. But there is one thing he won't tolerate, lying to Mike Pence.
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You gotta hand it to him and the Republican Congress. They just pulled off a world historic trillion plus dollar Bait and Switch on the majority of American people...and they're not done yet.
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But, given Flynn, will Trump remain in office long enough to sign it?
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We just learned that it is Trump's lawyer who has been writing his tweets! Well now we know the legal strategy: he is building a case for insanity.
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it hurts when I laugh.
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Sorry I'm late to the party, but this just in :
'Mueller poses an existential threat to the Trump presidency,' says Trump ally Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy "Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy, a close ally of President Trump's, admitted the Russia probe could spell major trouble for the administration. 'You know, at the end of the the day, my view is that – Robert Mueller poses an existential threat to the Trump presidency,' Ruddy said Sunday on ABC's This Week." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...residency.html
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Here's the money quote Dowd gave to Axios: The “president cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case.”
I thought if any law enforcement official was in any way involved with a case, friends of the family, possible collusion, etc, then they should recuse themselves. Being the chief law enforcement officer doesn't give you the right to fire the person who is prosecuting you, or members of your family, or your transition team.
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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Two national monuments in Utah that President Donald Trump is going to significantly reduce include ancient cliff dwellings and scenic canyons as well as areas that could be used for energy development.
During a March 2011 phone interview with "Fox and Friends," Donald Trump touted a business interaction he had with former Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi as a prime example of his business prowess: "I dealt with Qaddafi. I rented him a piece of land. He paid me more for one night than the land was worth for two years, and then I didn't let him use the land. That's what we should be doing. I don't want to use the word 'screwed', but I screwed him. That's what we should be doing."
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I thought we crossed this bridge with the Magna Carta, everyone is subject to the law and no one is above the law.
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How absurd is Roy allowed to get before even his supporters see that something just ain't right about him, besides his alleged pedophilia?
Accused pedophile Roy Moore in anti-Semitism storm as he says Jewish billionaire George Soros will go to HELL - then suggests all non-Christians will too http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...os-attack.html
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Michael Flynn — fired by the Trump Administration for lying — has turned state’s evidence against the White House and agreed to cooperate with rogue prosecutor Robert Mueller and his endless game of pin the tail on the Trump. How any of it amounts to “colluding” with Russia to rig last year’s election is beyond the imagination of any sane, rational person. But here in the swamp, there is very little rational sanity.
As always with these political witch hunts, Flynn is not pleading guilty to any crime that is a result of the Trump campaign or the Trump administration or anything involving President Trump. Flynn is pleading guilty to a crime that is the result of nothing other than Mr. Mueller’s investigation. Lying to the FBI. The only reason Flynn was talking to the FBI in the first place, is this bogus investigation into Democratic hallucinations about the Trump campaign “colluding” with Russia. So, finally, Mr. Mueller has his witness. He finally has a witness willing to say what Mr. Mueller has been yearning for from the very launch of his quest, “worthy” of Inspector Javert. And, of course, Flynn is willing to say anything Mr. Mueller wants him to say. Mr. Mueller threatened to jail him. Far, far worse, the rogue prosecutor threatened to jail the man’s son and leave his family destitute. Flynn’s wife would die a widow pauper if Flynn did not say what Mr. Mueller wanted him to say. In other words, Mr. Mueller has bribed and blackmailed Flynn into saying precisely what Mr. Mueller wants him to say. First, Flynn says he was instructed to “collude” with the Russians after Nov. 8, 2016. But you can’t rig an election AFTER the election. Unless Mr. Trump has a time machine — and I suspect he would have bragged to us about that if he did — you simply cannot rig an election after it happened.
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President Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
Now you may begin to understand why Bible-believing evangelicals support Trump.
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This is an assault on our Republic and the democratic process that elected our President by agenda-driven career FBI agents. Where is the rule of law?
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So Democrats, like Conyers and Franken, have to resign over accusations, but Moore can be put into the Senate? If he wins, will he have to resign too? Or do pubbies, like Moore and Trump, get a free pass. Just not demmies.
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They think it's the fulfillment of Bible prophecies. While it's nothing but self fulfilling prophecies. But Trump needs badly to be great, and that's more important than provoking wars, and increasing the potential for terrorism here at home. Make Trump great again ... at any cost.
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But since you see the Bible as mythology, it is impossible for you to understand. How in the world can ancient prophecies be self-fulfilling? Either they are fulfilled by the inspiration and sovereignty of God, or they could never be fulfilled.
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If the Senate Ethics Committee brings charges, then Moore will get to face his accusers, and not be convicted in the court of public opinion. If Moore is elected and then convicted, he will have to step down, and the Governor of Alabama can appoint a new senator. Don't you accept the Democratic process? The rule of law? The presumption of innocence? Or do you prefer hit squads?
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What an ugly post full of assumptions. You assume that Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital because he is following "Bible mythologies" though there is nothing at all in his campaign or behavior that would suggest he is such a person. You suggest that this action is irresponsible and worse, is intended to provoke a war and increase terrorism at home for some political advantage to Trump. Can anyone's mind be any more poisonous than this post? For 50 years Israel has been a nation. How has the peace process gone so far? How has American policy prior to Trump worked at reducing terrorism? As far as I can tell the only thing that has reduced terrorism, at least in Israel, is their wall. http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/terror-rate.html The construction of Israel’s security fence put an immediate and dramatic end to the Palestinian campaign of suicide bombing.*By 2009, only 15 Israelis were killed by Palestinian terrorism, compared with 452 murdered in 2002, the year before construction began.* (https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...rst/678600001/)
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Is there any other nation on earth that cannot have embassies in her capital? Today Israel recognizes Trump as their most trusted ally, yet our media has convinced half of our country that Trump is a Nazi like unto Hitler who hates Jews. Once again, they are firmly convinced of what there is no evidemce for. Like I have said before, Obama's true colors were really not on full display until he orchestrated that anti-Israel U.N. Resolution right before Christmas 2016. I believe Trump's action is a repudiation of that UN resolution, and will directly enable Israel to rebuild their temple.
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Palestinians don't own this land. It belongs to Israel. Been theirs for almost 4,000 years.
Muslams stole it, built their dome on top, and claimed that Muhammed ascended there. Palestinian ownership is part of your ancient mythology. Do you really believe Muhammed ascended there?
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But not Queens?
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That said, I know full well what the temple means to Christians. I grew up with it, and was soused with it in the local church. The temple has to be functioning for Jesus to come back, for the son of perdition to sit in it and pronounce himself to be God (sounds like something Trump would do). 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. This has been a deep longing ever since right after Jesus left this earth, and since Paul, who thought that the end times was near, within their lifetime. And 2000 years later Christians are still longing for the return of Jesus. Some are willing to do something about it, to do anything to make it happen. We even have a couple of members on this forum that actually tried to blow up the temple mount so Israel can rebuild the temple. But methinks such antics are nothing short of Cargo Cult thinking and methods ; or attempts to arrange everything just right so God will send the cargo. I say, after 2000 years, maybe we should be real people of God and busy ourselves with trying to make the world a better safer place for everyone to live in, and not be trying to arrange things that's just going to make the world worse off. It's not Christian to want our Jesus so bad that we don't care about our neighbors, and just want them -- Jesus killers and all the rest that don't believe in Jesus' salvation, most of the world populous -- to fry like crispy critters. It's not Jesus like to be selfish like that.
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One day you will meet your maker and try to lecture Him on His own personality cargo cult, and His horrific fan clubs. Best of luck with that plan of action. It was God who gave this land to Israel. It is not Palestinian land. These settlements are built on desert land which the Palestinians never lived on, nor built on, nor ever did anything with.
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Trump’s job rating has declined among several groups that gave him relatively high ratings in February, including older adults (38% of those 50 and older approve today, compared with 47% who did so in February) and whites (41% now, 49% then), as well as white evangelical Protestants (61% now, 78% then)." http://www.people-press.org/2017/12/...to-the-nation/
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Okay. Just for fun, just because you are so extremely partisan, back at ya :
Republican Arizona Congressman Resigns Amid Investigation Into Workplace Misconduct "Republican Rep. Trent Franks announced his resignation Thursday after the House Ethics Committee launched an investigation into the Arizona congressman and whether he “engaged in conduct that constitutes sexual harassment and/or retaliation for opposing sexual harassment.”" ~ Sourced at Wall Street Journal. But Rupert Murdoch charges. So, again, keeping with your feverish partisanship, Slate is even better. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...versation.html And here's the clapping hands (at both posts). Franken should have stayed a comedian.
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Alabama? What do you expect?
Now it's come out, again, that Roy Moore thinks America's best days were the days of slavery. And he: "Loves Putin, Loves little girls, Hates America, Hates Americans. " [I'll add, and loves slavery.} This has gone beyond retarded. https://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion
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The "two state solution" peace negotiations seems to be dead. I support a one state solution with equal rights for Jews and Palestinians. Such an Israel as that would fulfill the vision of Isaiah 56:
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Muslams have Medina and Mecca, but the Jews only have Jerusalem, and that for 3 millennia. To this date, the Palestinians have never recognized the state of Israel. The "peace process" never really even got started. If Palestinians ever, as a state, recognized Israel, the Muslims around the world would kill them off as traitors -- so-called "honor killing."
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Bombshell: Roy Moore Accuser Beverly Nelson Admits She Forged Yearbook
This is why I say that the accusations against Moore are different. Yet you are in complete denial about fake news from main stream media.
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I also have a solution for the peace process. And my solution is also Biblically based.
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Once again I think the evidence in this case is pretty clear. 1. Democrats engineered this story to be released when it would be too late to replace Moore on the ticket. Their goal had nothing to do with protecting women but rather an attempt to get a democrat elected. 2. The story has been spun to be given the worst possible impression. This includes embellishing the yearbook signature. 3. Roy Moore is a creep. A 35 year old man creeping around malls trying to get dates with 18 year old girls. This is confirmed by his claim that he never dated a girl without the mother's consent. 4. In a Tit for tat Conyers and Franken got exposed and forced to resign. The world of politics has done the impossible, it has gotten uglier than it was before.
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Ugly is the FBI and DNC paying some British ex-agent named Steele to produce the fake "Pee" Dossier on Trump, and then using that phony document to obtain FISA warrant to justify their surveillance of the Trump election team.
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And btw Corfman's details have been exposed as lies. Same with the Mall allegations. Found out there wasn't even a mall in Gadsen in the first place. Future history books will record the entire Moore smear campaign as a case study in main stream media fake news to overthrow the democratic election process.
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If this is in fact a smear campaign that is not in any way based on fact there are many people who have made documented claims that he could sue. As far as I am concerned the allegations are ugly because they were made to influence the election and never were intended to actually be tested in a court of law. I consider his denial by that same standard. If he is not willing to prove it in a court of law I won't consider it credible.
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There are many reasons why Moore might not sue. Who wants to spend their life in litigation? Moore is 70 years old, and must have a few more positive things he wants to do as a Senator. Besides, people believe what they want to believe. Court decisions won't change that.
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By doing this the Republican party and Moore would be vindicated (the Republican party is now be lambasted as the party that embraces pedophiles). But more than that imagine what happens at the next election -- any smear of any candidate would get a full blown repeat of the egg all over the face of the Democrats in this case. The cherry on the top would be if the woman admits she was put up to this. Democrats across the country would be bashed. Imagine how angry so many people would be if they chose not to vote for Moore because of these allegations and then later they were proven to be false. This outrage would sweep the electorate in other elections as well. So once again, my point is this, if Moore is telling the truth then he will and absolutely must sue this woman for libel and slander. The Republican party has everything to gain but cannot do this without his consent.
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As an opinion editor John Nolte expresses the kind of common sense conservatism that cuts straight through today's "politically correct" news commentary. I think his latest piece summarizes well the current thinking about Judge Roy Moore.
Pragmatism vs. Cake Baking: Christians Can Vote for Roy Moore in Good Conscience Here is the Introduction: Quote:
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Regardless of the risk Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem forces the Palestinians to negotiate.
They have 3 choices: 1. Terrorism -- won't advance their cause. Instead it will justify the walling off of their camps. 2. Stall -- this is what they have done and the result is their position shrinks every year. Every year there are more Jews, and Israel has advanced steadily with there claim to the land. At some point in the future the Palestinians claim will be considered ancient history. 3. Negotiate -- this involves compromise. If you look at the first peace proposal that the Palestinians rejected you can see the idiocy of the Palestinian leaders and how they have not acted on behalf of the Palestinians but rather have been puppets of the Arab nations.
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Do you have any idea how many other nations are dead set against Israel? Try the entire United Nations! Which, btw, has always had the mandate to prevent genocide. If it weren't for an occasional US President, that nation would have been destroyed long ago. Next summer will be 70 years of their existence. Is that significant in the Bible prophecies?
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However, this Arab alliance doesn't want peace, they want to be a continual thorn in the side of Israel. If they did want it the Palestinians would have had a peace settlement decades ago. Israel wants peace with its neighbors, Palestinians for the most part want to get on with their lives and have peace, but the Arab "allies" of the Palestinians, they are the ones who don't want this conflict to end.
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Trevor Noah: Trump Backs Roy Moore Because ‘Birds Of A Feather Molest Together’
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[QUOTE=awareness;67330]Trevor Noah: Trump Backs Roy Moore Because ‘Birds Of A Feather Molest Together’
How about quoting reputable news stories? Or do you only dabble in Alt-News?
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Jordan has a peace treaty with Israel and houses the largest concentration of Palestinians refugees. It's also the one of Israel's neighbors where Palestinians have full citizenship rights. Despite this, many refugees are shoved into crowded camps and generally poorly treated, which is why Palestinians are skeptical of their neighbors' claim to support the Palestinian cause. Turkey, long on good terms with Israel, Turkey has become increasingly pro-Palestinian in recent years. Its Islamist Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has positioned himself as a champion of the Palestinian cause for ideological, domestic, and geopolitical reasons. Israeli-Turkish conflict over an Israeli raid on a Turkish aid mission to Gaza severed diplomatic relations between the two countries for years. They normalized in 2016, but are still fragile. Saudi Arabia donates hundreds of millions of dollars to the Palestinian Authority and is the driving force behind an Arab League peace plan floated as an alternative to traditional Israeli-Palestinian negotiations. Though Saudi Arabia has yet to recognize Israel, the two nations' mutual hostility toward Iran has led to an unprecedented working relationship between the Saudi and Israeli governments. The Palestinians have little power themselves when compared to Israel and can hardly count on consistent effective support from the Arab nations.
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Palestinian thugs are paid well to kill innocent Israeli citizens, and then get "canonized." Who defends the human rights of these innocent victims?
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2017 Lie of the Year: Russian election interference is a 'made-up story' http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...erence-made-s/
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There is no one more blatantly anti trump than Trevor Noah.
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Five of the 20 worst fires in California history have now hit since just September
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Notice here that they pulled a bait-and-switch. And then they say, "It seems unlikely — though not impossible — that Russia interference changed the outcome of the election. We at PolitiFact have seen no compelling evidence that it did so." So which is it genius?
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How many lies were told every hour in the media about the Russian Collusion?
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But I'm an American, so I guess I am slightly biased.
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Doug Jones won in Alabama. There is a God!
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Yea! Moore, Trump, and Bannon - birds of a feather -- busted down. Even Alabama had better sense.
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Can we stop with the insults to Alabama?
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That is the evidence you choose to believe in God?
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If you take everything literally, you might be a fundamentalist.
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Islamic leaders declare Trump's Jerusalem decision 'null and void' and call for the city to be recognised as Palestine's capital "A statement by the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) declared Trump's decision 'null and void legally' and 'a deliberate undermining of all peace efforts' that would give impetus to 'extremism and terrorism.' The OIC, which includes the presidents of Iran, Turkey and Afghanistan, gathered in Istanbul, Turkey today for an emergency summit in response to Trump's announcement last week. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Jerusalem.html
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God Himself protects Israel, and when things get really bad, He will send the King of Israel back to earth to deliver her.
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He even threatened to ban facebook and youtube! God forbid!
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And why would you not agree with the US embassy in Israel's capital? Every other nation on earth enjoys such a convenience. Why are you so against that tiny democracy surrounded by a billion Muslums?
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But then, you prolly think that Christian genocide was good enough for native American Indians so it's good enough for the Palestinians. In fact, you prolly hate the Palestinians with the heat of Christian fanaticism & fervency. They're not God's chosen. They are not humans with any rights whatsoever. They are of Satan. Right?
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The Biggest Loser in the Alabama Election It’s not Republicans or Democrats, but Christian witness. "When it comes to either matters of life and death or personal commitments of the human heart, no one will believe a word we say, perhaps for a generation. Christianity’s integrity is severely tarnished." https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct...editorial.html
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Brain doctor: President Trump may be suffering from a ‘degenerative brain disorder’
Think how shameful all these people making fun of Trump when it may turn out he is a sick man in need of help. The slurring, the behavior, etc. There are a number of symptoms, not to laugh at, but to seek treatment for.
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Palestine never was a nation with a capital. Get over it. There were many Christian missionaries slaughtered by native American Indians, but I never heard it called genocide. They were martyrs for the Lord. Many native American Indians did get saved, however. I don't hate Palestinians. I do hate their hatred for Israel, the US, Christians, and the Gospel. God loves all mankind, including Palestinians. He desires all men to be saved and come to the full knowledge of the truth. But God has given all judgment to His Son, and one day He will judge all those who hate Him and His own.
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Follow the money. Subpoena power will help. He owes this to his family. It won't be a criminal case, but a civil lawsuit. If Moore doesn't do this, then every politician out there is vulnerable to public lynching. If the accusations are true, then step down and apologize. If they are false, then make a public example for all false accusers to see the painful ramifications of "bearing false witness." Al Franken was waiting for the election outcome, now he's history too.
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Welcome To The Surveillance State: China’s AI Cameras See All
We knew that the toys came from China but now we have proof that Santa's elves are chinese and the Red Santa is actually referring to the Chinese state.
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Scary indeed. Did you notice the comment: "There are issues of safety and privacy, But Chinese people care more about safety." Did anyone ask the Chinese people? Reminds me of that Tom Cruise SCi-Fi movie "Minority Report" -- The "authorities" of the future will know who will commit a crime before it happens, so they will arrest and sentence him beforehand to "protect" their society.
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1. Lie specialists can see a dangerous, threatening, scary behavior in people that takes place when they are planning on committing a crime. This is what screeners at airports and the FBI at political rallies are trained to look for. 2. Govt officials will have a list of "persons of interest". Perhaps someone raving about a government official on social media, etc. 3. Computers can quickly find these people and if they have been frequenting a landmark (say Brooklyn Bridge) it may alert them that they are scouting out a place to attack. 4. We use this technology at the Superbowl and other high profile events. 5. Airports are currently screening people for flu like symptoms to try and reduce the spread of contagious diseases. You may think China is scary, but that is the future we are all headed to. Imagine a crime is committed and we can immediately track the suspects every step prior to the crime and after the crime. This will greatly reduce crime, increase conviction rates, and cut the costs to police and justice dept. For example, the DC sniper would have been caught within two or three hours.
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We got lots of evidence to convict Hillary, but it never happened. The powers that be will use the technology to crush their enemies.
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How about when cars were stolen, put into a chop shop, and 30 minutes later the parts were on a ship? Doesn't happen now that we have lojack. Do you remember when the news would have descriptions of suspects (height, clothes, etc) and now we get pictures of the suspect? Do you remember the Hurricane, the police wanted to frame him for a murder because he knew the police chief was a child molester. They got false testimony, false descriptions, etc. But he was proven innocent based on a the record at the taxi company and the phone company. He had called a taxi and it turns out the taxi did not arrive at his bar until the crime had already been committed cross town. It works both ways. In this country everyone gets the justice they can afford. The highways are covered with face and license plate readers, so any car fleeing on the highway will very quickly be found and tracked. Smart phones are the best. Police used to need a warrant to put a bug into your house, then they would have to sneak in and install it and decide where the best location would be. Now they can get a warrant for your phone and without your knowedge the phone will be a bug that also gives the police your GPS location on a minute by minute basis. Criminals need to go back to the stone age or else they will be caught.
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Ain't that the truth.
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In my opinion what the OJ trial proved is that our justice system is not necessarily biased against blacks, it is biased against the poor. Still it is better than "trial by combat".
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Who knows how many phones were used as personal "bugs." The FBI has the technology to download malware into a phone that's even turned off, and it becomes a 24/7 bugging device for every Trump Team member. Not only are calls, texts, and personal info are recorded, but every member of the team was "wired" by the FBI without their knowledge. The only way to turn the bug off is to yank the battery -- no problem -- no current smart phone has a removable battery. All they needed was a FISA warrant to make this all evidence in a criminal trial. No problem. We'll hire a former MI-6 agent to put together a Dossier which our hand-picked Judge will buy.
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I admit that many in the FBI knew and spoke openly that Trump was an idiot. Other than that I have no evidence they were "out to get Trump".
I also know that the FBI director's actions prior to the election helped Trump's campaign. Other than that I feel it is too early to judge either the FBI or Trump.
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Here is a rogues’ gallery of those assigned to investigate the 2016 election --
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein: previously supervised an investigation into the approval by the Obama administration of a controversial sale of an American company now known as Uranium One to Russia. Russia used bribery, kickbacks and extortion to influence the uranium deal. Special Counsel Robert Mueller: Mueller was FBI director during the uranium investigation. After being dismissed by President Trump, Comey leaked government memos to influence the investigation. Comey may have violated the law, but he accomplished his goal of getting his mentor Mueller appointed special counsel by Rosenstein. FBI Investigator Peter Strzok: demoted from the Mueller investigation for sending anti-Trump text messages and allegedly relied on the anti-Trump 'Dirty Dossier' created by Fusion GPS (paid for in part by the Clinton campaign) to begin an investigation into Russian election interference, including spying on Trump campaign associates. He was also in charge of the Clinton email investigation and declared her “extremely careless” – not “grossly negligent” – which was the basis of the decision not to prosecute. FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe: involved in both the FBI’s investigation of the uranium sale as well as the investigation in Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server, neither of which resulted in negative outcomes for Clinton. The inspector general is now investigating allegations that McCabe should have recused himself, among other concerns, from the handling of the Clinton email controversy. McCabe’s wife received over $675,000 from Democratic campaign committees, including Clinton loyalists, in her campaign for the Virginia state Senate. Andrew Weissmann, former chief of the Justice Department Criminal Fraud Section and a former partner at WilmerHale: donates frequently to Democrats. He attended Hillary Clinton’s election night party, and praised then-Acting Attorney General Sally Yates, saying he was "so proud" of her for defying Trump. Weissmann is one of Mueller’s top deputies. Aaron Zebley, chief of staff for then-FBI Director Mueller, former partner at WilmerHale: represented Justin Cooper, a key figure in the Hillary Clinton email controversy. Zebley is now on the Mueller team. Justin Cooper, former Bill Clinton aide who set up Hillary Clinton’s private server: admitted to two instances where he destroyed Hillary Clinton’s old mobile devices by breaking them in half or hitting them with a hammer. Jeannie Rhee, former partner at WilmerHale: represented ex-Obama Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes, the Clinton Foundation in a 2015 racketeering case, and Hillary Clinton herself in a lawsuit seeking access to her private emails. Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce G. Ohr: recently demoted after evidence surfaced of his contacts with Fusion GPS. Inexplicably, Fusion GPS employed Ohr’s wife as well. Almost every day, we hear of biases and conflicts among the Justice Department-Mueller team – with no end in sight. Investigators did not report their conflicts during the department’s investigation of Hillary Clinton. Mueller’s team continues to ignore its own conflicts of interest in a most unethical way. Our justice system deserves a better outcome. We must clean up the Justice Department and institute an official process to vet our investigators. What do you call an investigation by Muller's team appointed by Rosenstein that began with no other purpose than to protect all the investigators from criminal action?
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Got any proof of Trump's guilt? Why don't you address the proofs I provided of a crooked investigation?
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Reminds me of the movie fracture where the man in jail gets a private detective to investigate the prosecutor.
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..................................... Aren't you the guy who teaches forensics? You know, like follow the evidence?
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What evidence? If you look at any individual person you can spin it for its worst possible impression. For example: Aren't you the guy who was involved in the leadership of a cult?
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Partisan politics has crucified the truth in America.
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Now there's no question that the GOP is the party of the rich ... and can no longer identify with Christian principles :
"Tax cut bill goes public as GOP slashes rates for the wealthy, nixes Obamacare penalty, expands child tax credits, dramatically lowers corporate taxes and opens up new Alaska oil drilling" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-penalty.html
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Then why is it that nearly every billionaire I see, every musician, every celibrity, every sports star and coach, every comedian, and every successful businessman are all Liberal??? Rich folks did not elect Trump. It was the working class. Trump just cut my taxes. Does that make me rich?
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Bahahahahaha!!! Trump hint done nothing yet. But the GOP did cut their taxes in their tax plan, and that of the rich (all those liberals you hate) and International corporations.
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You reap what you sow. The reason the plan passed was there was a majority in both the house and senate who voted for it. This is a country based on majority rule. Perhaps the rich are able to amplify their voice with their money, still just another example of "you reap what you sow". It is a very precarious position to be the "1%". If you piss off the 99% you are outnumbered. Just ask the French.
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Extinctions are about 1,000 times more frequent now than in the 60 million years before people came along. (Journal of Conservation Biology)
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Who you been listening to? You do need another news source bro. The roll back of yobama regulations alone has validated his presidency. At least for me. I suppose you see things differently. Keep watching "fake news central" at CNN. And obviously I don't hate liberals. I'm surrounded by them. I don't espouse their views, but still love them. That's like saying I hate unbelievers. How can anyone do that?
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Nikki Haley is watching votes and taking names. She must be working for an autocrat.
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Six Anti-Israel Outrages Inside the U.N. Resolution Opposing Trump’s Jerusalem Recognition 1 – The resolution wrongly implies that Israel’s ties to Jerusalem come from “the acquisition of territory by force.” The resolution reaffirms “the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by force,” falsely implying that Israel went to war to acquire the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem. The statement also misleadingly implies that Israel’s only connection and claim to those areas come from the “acquisition of territory by force.” The West Bank contains ancient Jewish cities such as Hebron, Beit El, Shiloh and more. It houses the Tomb of the Patriarchs and Matriarchs, Joseph’s Tomb and Rachel’s tomb, some of the holiest sites in Judaism. Eastern Jerusalem includes Judaism’s holiest site – the Temple Mount – as well as the Old City. Jews maintained a historic presence in Jerusalem, including in the eastern sections, until they were forced to leave the Old City en masse in 1948 and eastern Jerusalem fell under illegal Jordanian occupation. Jordan illegally occupied and annexed eastern Jerusalem from 1948 until Israel recaptured the lands in a defensive war in 1967. Known as the Six Day War, the conflict was launched after Arab countries used the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem to stage attacks against the Jewish state. Israel did not initiate the war. Israel was forced to defend itself in a war waged by Arab nations with the express goal of annihilating the Jewish state. Israel won against all odds. If Israel acquired those territories by force, as the U.N. resolution wrongly implies, who exactly are the rightful owners of eastern Jerusalem and the West Bank? In 1988, more than 20 years after Jordan lost its illegal control of the territories, the Kingdom of Jordan officially renounced its illegitimate claims to the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem and unilaterally recognized terrorist Yasser Arafat’s Palestine Liberation Organization as “the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people” seeking to acquire those lands. In actuality, the Palestinians never had a state in either the West Bank or eastern Jerusalem and they are not legally recognized as the undisputed authorities in those areas.
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Donald Trump, the personification of the uncaring, uber-rich white guy who talks disparagingly of women and repeatedly picks fights with people of color, and immigrants has signed the Republican Tax Scam that favors corporations and the wealthy and is headed down here to Mar-A-Lago. All is right in the Republican party of rich, old white men who rig the system to help themselves and don’t give a damn about anyone else.
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Is there another country in the world that is not allowed to have foreign embassies in their capital? Perhaps you would demand that foreign embassies be located in the Land between the Lakes?
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It appealed to Clinton, Bush, and Obama too, that is, until they became spineless.
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I'd rather have a successful business man who "buys" the presidency, than a worthless community organizer who "sold" the presidency to foreign interests, like 20% of our Uranium to Russia for a couple hundred million to the Clintons.
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Are you really getting your politics from Charles Barkley?
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Defying Trump, the U.N. General Assembly voted to condemn Trump's decree on Jerusalem.
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They have attempted to take away the same right which they demand for themselves.
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What law did they break?
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This vote demonstrates the success of a policy from Saudi Arabia to create an Islamic coalition in the UN. They have actively courted and seduced countries into joining this block of voters in response to financial incentives. It is the largest block of countries to vote together in the UN. Other nations, like the Europeans that depend on imports and trade fear this block more than the US. They also represent major allies of Russia and China. Of course these things are temporary. Since solar has become cheaper this year than fossil fuel and since China and Europe are major producers of solar and wind power it is likely the grip of Aramco will wane like "the dust in the wind".
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UN Had No Legal Right to Vote on Resolution Condemning Trump Recognizing Israel’s Capital
The United Nations General Assembly resolution criticizing President Donald Trump’s sovereign right to recognize Israel’s capital, violates at least three articles of the United Nations Charter, and is not within the power of the UN General Assembly to address, for the following reasons: (1) UN Charter Article 2 (7) prohibits the United Nations from dealing with matters within the sovereign domestic jurisdiction of the United States. Article 2(7) states: “Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state.” President Trump’s recognition power – his decision to recognize Israel’s capital Jerusalem – is a matter within the domestic jurisdiction of the United States. The U.S. Supreme Court confirmed this in Zivotofsky v. Kerry, 576 U.S. __, 135 U.S. 2076 (2015), saying: “The text and structure of the Constitution grant the President the power to recognize foreign nations and governments.” Thus, the United Nations is prohibited from criticizing the United States’ sovereign right to confer recognition. (2) If, despite the foregoing and item (3) below, the United Nations nonetheless is authorized to deal with this matter, UN Charter Article 12 prohibits the UN General Assembly from dealing with it, because according to UN Security Council Resolution 2334 (2016), the matter is still before the UN Security Council, which has not requested that the UN General Assembly take action or make recommendations. UN Charter Article 12 states: “While the Security Council is exercising in respect of any dispute or situation the functions assigned to it in the present Charter, the General Assembly shall not make any recommendation with regard to that dispute or situation unless the Security Council so requests.” UN Security Council Resolution 2334 (2016), which purports to deal with the status of “East Jerusalem” (a misnomer for the eastern portion of Jerusalem), among other issues, specifically states UN Security Council “Decides to remain seized of the matter.” (UNSC Res. 2334, para. 13.) In other words, the UN Security Council is continuing to exercise jurisdiction of the matter. The UN Security Council has not requested that the General Assembly make recommendations on this matter, and thus the UN General Assembly has no power to pass a resolution regarding the matter. (UN General Assembly resolutions are recommendations.) (UNSC Res. 2334, paragraph 12, merely “Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Council every three months on the implementation of the provisions of the present resolution.” This reporting request does not authorize a UN General Assembly recommendation/resolution. (3) Like all anti-Israel resolutions, this new proposed anti-American, anti-Israel UN General Assembly resolution violates UN Charter Article 80 (the Jewish people’s clause) – which preserved the Jewish people’s rights to reconstitute the Jewish homeland and closely settle the Palestine Mandate, which encompassed Jerusalem.
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On the other hand Solar, wind, and nuclear could. 30 years from now it could be fusion.
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Westinghouse Nuclear went belly up. GE hasn't been the same since Welch left. Where I live, the sun won't shine for a couple more months. On the contrary, Utica is far bigger than Marcellus. The USA has the largest coal reserves in the world. Pipelines will bring Balkan and ANWR oil to market instead of Arab tankers. Don't you think it's about time we stop protecting the Strait of Hormuz for the rest of the world? They seem to hate us anyway.
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But I did answer your question about which laws they broke. And you must ask yourself what will happen to the US if half of our country, and most of the world, continually sides with all of our enemies.
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And roads and bridges and neighborhood youth centers and parks and confederate monuments! We don't have any near us.
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If spent the $1 trillion instead on being self sufficient in energy it would reduce, even eliminate our need to be over there and that in turn would take away the fuel for the fire of terrorism. 1 trillion might not be enough to make us completely self sufficient, but so what, our demand would decrease so much OPEC would welcome any business we gave them.
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I do believe that American "greatness" is twofold a blessing to the world and a protection to Israel.
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That makes America a dishonest broker of peace in the middle east.
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Our financial aid to Egypt, our diplomatic efforts with Jordan, and our military aid to Israel on the other hand has done a lot. Not one dollar of the $1 Trillion (recently referred to as $4 trillion by Trump) has gone to make Israel safer.
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The peace process is completely stacked against Israel. All of the surrounding nations were there enemies -- Egypt, Jordan, Syria, PLO, and Iran. In the UN the block of Islamic states is the biggest block, well funded, and vote as one because they have been bought by OPEC. The only way to keep this process even remotely honest is for the US to be a counterbalance. If this were a honest process then Palestine would have accepted the last Peace offer as they won't get a better offer.
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There is no "peace" process.
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Saddam was able to balance a fundamentalist population with a Christian population. As bad a guy that Saddam and his sons were, by comparison with every other state in the Middle East he was the least threatening to Israel and acted as a nice buffer between Iran.
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Saddam invaded Kuwait showing the world how dangerous he was. Why did the Bushes have it out for Saddam though? There are things we don't know. He was not the existential threat to us as Kim is now. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ All the posters here are quick to condemn Dubya for invading Iraq, but why does no one fault BarryO for what he did and did not do in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iraq. Arab spring anyone?
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That's what I like about women and minority Politicians, they can't be held responsible for anything they do. Just accuse them of racism or misogyny.
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We know that those at the highest level knew that Osama was not in any way associated with Iraq yet Cheney demanded that Iraq be blamed for 911 and be invaded. Invading Iraq put our army in control of the largest oil field available, invading Afghanistan put our military in control of new gas fields discovered in Turkmenistan. The old "leave the gun, take the canoli" attitude of a true killer. Saddam knew this, that is why he set the oil fields on fire. No one thought Saddam was any more of a threat than he turned out to be, that is a sitting duck. He thought Bush gave him the green light to invade Kuwait. Once again, a simple deceit giving us a fig leaf to justify our invasion. As for Obama -- we spent trillions on the Bush wars (according to Trump it is now $4 trillion). Half of our forces are mercenaries. They have turned the US into a paper tiger -- Obama was administering the reality of what we had left. Remember, the first Iraq war was financed largely by Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. Imagine if we did stretch ourselves out to the max, that would be an invitation to North Korea. Discretion is the better part of valor.
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I thought I was. You question my seriousness?
Merry Christmas to all!
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There was no Merry Christmas when I was in the LC. We didn't celebrate pagan holydays.
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Merry Christmas everyone!
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You can only say that because Trump brought it back.
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Everything that King Midas touched turned to gold. At first it seemed like a blessing, for this power promised to make him the richest man in the world. But turning everything he touched to gold would eventually make the king the most spiritually and emotionally poor man that could be. How do you eat food hardened into metal? How do you smell the fragrance in a golden flower? How can you receive love from a gold statue? How do you follow God if your heart is full of greed? A wise man once said, you cannot serve both God and Mammon.
The Midas parable is about the dangers of psychological inflation. Psychological inflation occurs when an individual’s ego becomes merged with the unconscious image of God. The person's self-image becomes puffed up...inflated. Sadly, Donald Trump is afflicted with psychological inflation. Like Midas with his golden touch, this extreme form of egocentricity turned everything around him into an inanimate object. Because he is obsessed with control, others are like dead stone to him...a projection of his own heart. Throughout his life Donald Trump became increasingly manipulative, a mask cut-off from his soul. There is no genuine caring or love in him because his ego was wedded to its own self-image and loves only itself. Cut of from others, the inner Trump does not know, and cannot know, authentic human relationships. That would be sad if it only affected Trump and those in his innermost circle. But, in this case, "King Midas" is the most powerful man in the world. If he is not stopped, he may bring the Midas curse on us all.
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He didn't just bring back Christmas he also brought back the use of coal! Let's give him credit where credit is due.
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But for the wealthy coastline liberals, they could care less and long as their new I-Phone works.
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My point was that he did bring back Christmas for all the good little corporations, filling their stockings with very fat permanent tax breaks, and he balanced this by giving coal to all the bad little poor people who live next to the coal plants and breathe in the fumes.
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If China and India used the coal scrubber technology we have, the world would be a much cleaner place. That's one reason why the Paris accord was scrapped. It penalized America The Clean for the sins of the world. I like ground source hump pump technology instead of home coal. I am surrounded by clean-coal-burning power plants. Excellent use of our resources. What really pollutes the air is home-coal, because it is so dirty.
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12 months ago I checked solar and it was not economic for me as well. However, the price has fallen dramatically since then and the same company that told me we weren't economic then says we are now. Now that is looking simply at the cost of the electricity and ignoring the health benefits and environmental benefits. Likewise it is looking at the cost today, ignoring the fact that fossil fuel energy will likely rise in cost over the next 25 years. Also this is taking into account cloudy days, snowy days, etc. They estimate the total power produced over the lifetime of the solar panels. Yes it is true that these things don't produce power at night, on cloudy, snowy days, and they produce less power in the winter than summer. This is why you need batteries, a way to store the power, and this is why you need to combine this with wind (you do get wind at night and on snowy days) and nuclear. Currently the US is less than 2% of our electricity from solar. Since energy consumption drops by much more than that in the winter the "snowy days" argument is a straw man that is irrelevant. There are several countries whose use of wind and solar exceeds 20%. In my opinion that should be a US goal every bit as significant as trying to land a man on the moon or building highways across the country. Germany and China both are doing a better job than we are. Both of these countries are very focused on a successful economy and they both have coal. People need to wake up, in the 1970s you could argue that this was a trivial technology, not anymore. It is growing exponentially, doubling each year, and either we embrace it as much as our space program or else we'll be importing energy from China instead of OPEC. All we need is to eliminate the legal barriers and hurdles involved in letting people put solar on their house. Please note, even the Pentagon realized that solar provided better national security and has a large contract for solar. In the event of a war or terrorist attack the Pentagon does not want to be crippled by a power plant being attacked. It is called "distributed energy". It would enable our telecommunications to continue to be up and running in the event of an attack. We are in an age of terrorism, just another reason why we should embrace solar.
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Does it depend on world views? If solar wasn't so expensive I'd of adopted it long ago. I dislike the electric companies. I noticed farmers around here with large solar panels. They're prolly selling it back to the electric company.
The brother I've spoken about before, the one that went from local church elder to Native American shaman, lives off the grid, powered by wind. He told me he'd help me build a wind generator. But upon looking at the map of wind friendly locations, I found it wouldn't work here. So I burn wood for heat. That's not environmentally friendly either, but it's the best I can do right now. It's colder, as they say, than a witches tit here. No snow, like prolly bro Ohio has, but dipping to 11 at night, and hanging below freezing, so I'm burning thru a lot of wood. I've become a fire worshiper. I love my stove. Prometheus sure did us a big favor, even if he defied Zeus by stealing fire and introducing it to us mortals. He made a great self sacrifice for us, and got punished for it. Thanks Prometheus.
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In 2014 the cost per watt for Solar panels averages $3.86, in 2017 it was $3.17. That is a substantial drop in price and the drop in price has been accelerating in the last 12 months.
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The wealthy coastline liberals are located where there is excellent resource for wind. Why shouldn't we develop this resource so that we have a domestic supply of energy rather than import it? How can you claim that we have "forgotten the coal miners of WV and PA"? We have to support their development of a dirty resource that is damaging to our health but cannot develop our own resource which does not damage the environmental health of anyone on the coast or in those states as well?! If we have to support WV's right to mine coal, why shouldn't they support the right of coastline states to develop their offshore wind resource?
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Both Obama and Clinton had the goal to shut down all coal. I never was a fan of eastern coal because I know that western coal is more economical and burns cleaner, but I strongly protest Obama's endless regulations which sacrifice American industry, resources, and jobs. Obama saw nothing wrong with the whole state of WV on welfare, food stamps, and opioid addicts. Trump does, and for that I really appreciate his leadership. And I like the way his new tax plan penalizes high priced blue states! Praise God!
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He ran into endless regulations. He needed a larger yard than two acres, because he had to have a fall zone which matched the height of the windmill and vanes -- very prohibitive. Why don't the same fall zones exist for cell towers and high tension lines?
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I wish. It's an ancient Ember Hearth, prolly 70 or 80 year old. It was given to me. It takes 4 strong men to even pick it up. Moving it is another matter ; just a jump at a time.
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My area can go without sun for weeks in December. I have no south-facing roof for panels. With nat gas so economical, I would not even consider alternative fuels or heating technology since the house would never sell.
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Coal on the other hand takes millions of years to form. It is a fossil fuel. It is a simple mathematical equation -- the amount of carbon that enters the atmosphere each year must equal the amount that comes out. Carbon is not the villain, the villain is the excess carbon. 100 years ago there were very few options other than coal (wind, water). But today that is not true by any stretch. 50 years ago you could argue that solar and wind are not an economically viable option, that also is no longer true by any analysis.
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The point is - we should have diversity. Where I am, coal power plants are great, and solar is mostly stupid. Out in Arizona, coal is stupid, and solar is super. I'd like to see fracking natural gas be used in more homes, but with the incredible advances in heat pump technology, it is now the best option for rural America. My in-laws, who get no winter sunshine, living on the north side of a mountain, dug four wells in the yard, and now got all the cheap heat they will ever need. My brother used to live in Queens, and he thought Nuclear was a horrible idea there because of evacuation, but it seems to work great in the rural South and Midwest. Like I said, diversity! Options! And some politician in WashDC should not be able to shut down the coal industry, simply because the coastline liberal elites agree with him. Yet if he really cared for environmental safety, he would not have permitted dozens of train consists daily to move high volatile Balkan crude through the cities to enrich his buddy Warren Buffett who owned the trains. Trump has replaced corruption with common sense contrary to mainstream media chatter -- oh yeah, after months and months they still have found no evidence of Russian collusion. But don't stop looking, it's got to be there somewhere.
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Back in the 1800s, when world population was only a billion, it wasn't much of a problem. Now, with over 7 billion even the smallest footprint is a concern. So far, seems, war, disease, famines, catastrophes, etc., haven't been able to slow population explosion. It's gonna take God to do it ... in the great flame out. But if He delay's, we don't need Him, we can do it ourselves. Sooner or later humans will become as extinct as the dinosaurs. But not to worry, we, a superior more intelligent and self-conscious, being came along after them. Maybe that will happen after we're gone. In other words, our end allows God another chance. Maybe He's learned something, and will get it right the next time.
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This planet is changing, and it should warn us of His coming. Independent of our "carbon footprint," we are facing climate changes, tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, forest fires, deluges, etc. We cannot foolishly blame all these events on Trump for canceling the Paris climate accord. That accord was a fool's dream, just an American cash giveaway. Obama was good at that. Sure I sound apocalyptic, and I am, but trying to believe that mankind will save itself is far worse idiocy. We can't even protect ourselves from a crazed dictator the other side of the world. At this rate, every terrorist organization will have nukes in another decade. Nuclear technology is spreading, and like awareness told us, mankind will kill himself off unless the Lord Jesus returns to save those who remain.
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You'll like this one bro ZNP. If man had live only by his animal instincts, like all the rest of the critters, the population would have remained balanced. But something happened. We developed self consciousness and intelligence -- symbolized by the tree of knowledge of good and evil -- and took control, told God to screw off, that we'd no longer trust in His providing for sustenance, and would "TAKE" it away from Him. That was the birth of Totalitarian Agriculture. More food, more population. That's an evolutionary principle, that all the rest of the species live by. Maybe that's why God rejected Cain's offering ... God didn't like Totalitarian Agriculture, as the Cains' "fruit of the ground" symbolism may represent (Gen 4:3). Quote:
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The dangerous cult of Donald Trump: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...06-story.html#
We were in the cult of Witness Lee. We should recognize the signs of a cult displayed by Trump and his followers and warn others.
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I agree with you there. Have you not been mesmerized by the rock star status of BarryO? He is now hob-nobbing with royalty. The world cannot slurp enough of ole Hussein.
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You changed my words. How funny. I'm not uncritical of Obama or anybody else especially people who are in power. Lord Acton was right as history continues to show.
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With all the liberals, you keep your criticisms to yourself. With conservatives, you exercise your 1st Amend right. Right!
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I have lived my whole life with the fear-mongering politicization of climate.
Back in high school and college, when the climate was trending cooler, we were constantly spooked by the next ice age, with whooly mammoths frozen in blocks of ice. Back in the 90's, when the climate was trending warmer, we were constantly spooked by global warming. I love it when these climate pundits tell us that global warming is bringing us frigid temps. Personally I think all these global alarmists should take their message to China, India, and Russia where it might do some good.
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"Climate" refers to the average temperature over 100 years or more. We are using averages from 10 or 20 years to depict changes and trends. An average has days that are above average and other days that are below average. Also, when you say "global" you are referring to the entire globe, not merely the US. At the exact same time that a large swath of the US has below average temperatures there are even larger swaths of the Globe that have above average temperatures. In the past 365 days in the US we have had 3.03 record hot days for every record low day. That by definition is climate change. I am disgusted that Trump could make such an ignorant and inconsiderate comment at a time when many, many people in this country have lost their homes and the lives of their loved ones in catastrophic, climatic events.
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It used to be Bush who got blamed for all of them. For that, Bush should be grateful to Trump. Historians will now be kind to Bush, since they have Trump to blame everything for.
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I was referring to air and water quality, not recent disasters.
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I would agree with you that his policies were far more pro Muslim than our past presidents and that Trump's policy towards Israel seems to be one example of the pendulum swinging back the other way.
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It probably seems like that to you because we often disagree.
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The Israel thing is causing Christian's to lose sight of the gospel. And supporting politicians who support the rich while taking from the poor is tainting the Christian brand and product ; causing the young of this generation to turn away from cold-hearted Christianity ... and should be seen as self defeating. Talk about being bewitched.
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This is the kind of quality control that all corporations use. Calling it "cooking the books" is the worst possible spin on the facts.
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Yes, times are really tough for these rich blue states when our wealthiest can't figure out where to find $3,000 and all these trust fund babies are taking jobs as cops and firemen.
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As the Christmas holiday weekend set in, the Senate Rules and Administration Committee released a report revealing the Senate has spent $1.5 million on workplace harassment settlements since 1998.
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There is never going to be a Palestine "solution" when 2 billion Mooslims hate the Jews more than Hitler and Stalin hated the Jews, and want them all annihilated. Many of these countries have sworn that they only exist to destroy Israel.
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It's you who deny what is happening, because you refuse to believe the Bible. Read Revelation, read Romans 8. You put all your trust in science, but science has no idea why things are changing. It is no more due to carbon footprints than science's last prediction that carbon emissions would bring the next ice age. I made it clear that soon this earth will no longer be habitable. Climate change is just one of the problems we face. What about Nukes, earthquakes, volcanoes, financial meltdown?
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Oh bleeding hearts! Let them complain to their politicians about blue state waste and fraud. Nobody was crying when Obama raised my taxes $3,000. Be thankful they have public service jobs with great pensions. I'm sure they are more worried about BLM snipers, than cutting their vacations short a day or two.
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There's no such thing as a no spin zone. All the information is in the spin cycle.
And we're not able to get observational first hand info, except maybe in our immediate life experiences. So we select what we want to believe. The question is, why do you select what you select?
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The Weather Channel fired back at President Donald Trump's tweet this week about the cold weather in the eastern part of the country by explaining how the commander in chief confused climate with weather.
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The sky is falling! The sky is falling! The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Happy New Year Folks! Ohio is freezing! Please send some climate change! Fast!
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It's all a grand conspiracy. Furthermore, reading his views it looks to me like he sees a grand conspiracy of all the world scientists too, working in concert, day and night, relentlessly, nefariously, to discredit God and the Bible. That's the purpose's of the astrophysicist's, and all the rest of the physicist's. Including Newton. He was one of the forerunners of this grand conspiracy. In fact, as that picture implies, that's the whole purpose, from start to finish, of the Hubble Telescope ; to disprove the Biblical world view of the universe. Also throw in the archaeologist's, and without question, leading the way, the evolutionist's. Methinks brother Ohio sees this grand conspiracy because he seeks to think like the authors of the Bible. Those iron age thinkers sure can be stubborn, against learning all the new proven facts, unknown to them, of course, of the real universe, in their day. They refuse to evolve with the ever growing knowledge base of proven facts, and actually feel threatened by it/them. I admit that learning outside of our comfort zone can be painful at times, and there's a tendency to flinch away, and back, into the cozy comfort ignorance ; the ignorance, by the way, of the iron age knowledge, or lack thereof, and their very limited world view, and stunted limited thinking. As they say : Ignorance is bliss. I think prolly that clique was coined by those Biblical iron-agers. And I don't think that all that very limited thinking and knowledge was all that very blissful. But some today, mostly of the conservative Christian sort, and Mooslem's (as Ohio likes to say), just love to think like those ancient iron-agers. Don't ask me why. But I think tenaciously hanging onto an old book has something to do with it. In fact, they are known as, people of the book ... not people books ... but BOOK!
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PATHETIC: Calif Liberal College Uses Football Game to Mock the state of Texas, The Border Wall, Whataburger, their School Mascot, and all things Texan, while playing in Texas!
Watch the toxic Halftime show. It's way beyond disrespectful to their hosts. Then TCU came from behind to win the Game!
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Send your money! Buy his books and videos! Shrink your carbon footprint! While Ozone Al gets to hobnob in the Hamptons with all his rich liberal buddies like BarryO and Leo, gallavanting around the world in his private jet rakin in the bucks. Have you seen their mansions? Their jets? Yeah climate change! Yeah fake science! Vote Democrat! Party of the rich and famous!
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whereas for the last 400,000 years it never passed 300 and averaged closer to 250 ppm The planet’s average surface temperature has risen about 2.0 degrees F since 1900 The top 700 meters of the oceans has increased 0.3 degrees F since 1969 Greenland has lost 36 to 60 cubic miles of ice between 2002 and 2006 Antarctica lost about 36 cubic miles of ice between 2002 and 2005 Global sea level rose about 8 inches in the last century. Arctic sea ice has declined rapidly over the last several decades. The acidity of the surface of the ocean has increased about 30% since the beginning of the Industrial revolution. We have seen the frequency, size, and power of extreme events have all increased. More extreme heat events, more extreme droughts, more extreme rainfall, more extreme tropical cyclones, more extra tropical cyclones, more wildfires.
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Aren't you so proud of your party, for rewarding all those rich liberals? You don't like them, but they obviously do. Unlike you they put their money where their mouth is. And like your most dear personality cult leader, president Donald J. Drumpf -- a democrat in pubbie clothing -- told his rich guests at Mar-a-Lago, hours after signing the tax bill : 'You all just got a lot richer' .... haha .... as they laugh all the way to the bank. And bro Ohio, after that tax bill, you will no longer be able to deny that the republican party -- the party that claims, falsely obviously, to be of Christian values -- does not support the rich, at the expense of the poor ... a reverse Robin Hood. Christian values ... family values ... bahahahaha rotflmao ... such blatant in your face hypocrisy ... more hypocritical than Al Gore ... that's your party bro Ohio. You must still be stuck with a cult mentality, or you'd have sense enough to be a mugwump ... and not hook your wagon to a party ... or sports team, for that matter.
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Okay bro Ohio, maybe liberals aren't great. But I'll take them any day over these right wing white supremacists:
The battle for Eugene: Chilling photos reveal how white supremacists have 'taken over' a once-liberal Oregon college town with hate crimes on the rise and swastikas plastered over the walls http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...egon-town.html
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The rich wealthy blue state liberals are all in an uproar -- how can that not be good??? It will be a very happy new year!!!
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The issue is not that scientists don't know the factors, the issue is we are not fully clear on how much each should be weighted and the point at which feedback loops kick in. For example, we know that once frozen methane begins to melt that is a major feedback loop. But exactly when and how much will be released at each tick up the temperature scale is still an estimate. This is why we have several different models. If the model is accurate it will predict the future climate. Therefore these models can be tested by plugging in data that is a few years old and seeing how well they predict. Every year we are able to tweak these models to make them correlate better with the actual climate. So far our models have all been undershooting the actual warming (predicting less warming than actually took place). That is strange, you would expect some models to undershoot and some to overshoot. The fact that they all undershoot imo reflects the pressure put on by the attacks and PR campaign from Exxon and others to discredit the science. As a result you are better off being overly conservative. But you are wrong to say climate "is a random walk". It is simple physics and chemistry. However, it is very complex. For example, the weight of the ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica are very great. When you remove 36 cubic miles of ice you are removing a very great weight from each of these areas. That results in something known as "isostatic rebound" -- the earth starts rising. This in turn can trigger earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. There are many "inactive" volcanos in Antarctica that we now know have recently become active. This is another feedback loop. So as the ice melts volcanic activity under the ice could pick up causing more ice to melt.
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All of the "symptoms" confirm the diagnosis. The cause is the burning fossil fuel, the burning of the rain forest, and the huge herds of cows and pigs. I saw Al Gore's sequel and thought it was very interesting, though certainly not going to appeal to the masses. He begins with various senators and congressmen ridiculing the first movie and talking about the exaggeration and hyperbole. They were especially outraged at a projection that he made in the movie that with sea level rise the World Trade Center would be flooded. Then after letting us hear their ridicule he then cuts to news footage of the World Trade Center being flooded during hurricane Sandy. After that he cuts to a Senate hearing where one Senator was literally spitting angry at him, asking him questions, but as he would answer just cutting him off and being a jerk. Eventually the chairman had to step in and tell them that they cannot ask a question unless they will give the witness a minute to answer. He then cuts to a visit he took to Greenland. He goes on the ice and meets with the scientists on the ice who have been there since 2001. That is a very big contrast. On the one hand you have those screaming every insult and ridicule they can without the slightest evidence, never visiting the scientists, never wanting to hear from them. Perhaps the most striking visual to me, which most viewers would miss, was the ladder he had to climb to get into the camp on Greenland. It isn't clear why they would build this camp ten feet in the air and then use an aluminum ladder to get up into it. But later you see a picture of the camp the year before. It was built on the ice. However, they put in posts deep into the ice to prevent the camp from falling into a crevasse, etc. The reason you have to climb up 10 feet is because that is how far the ice has melted in the last year. However, the striking picture to most people is that of fish swimming across the roads in Miami Florida. Apparently this is a common occurrence that happens during high tide.
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Researchers have found that climate change models have poor long term forecast accuracy. They also do no better than random walk. See here..
http://www.thegwpf.com/ross-mckitric...-reality-test/ It has been shown that physics and climatology adds little. Government policy on climate change is based on models that are outperformed by random walk. This means that the optimum way to address climate change is to toss a coin and go with the result rather than take some policy based on fitting models to data which gives a result worse than 50% ZNP seems a true believer in the power of science to predict the future just as economists are believers in the ability to forecast markets. Just as we can't accurately forecast markets we cannot accuratey forecast climate. Just as investors lose thousands listening to the experts who claim they can predict the future by drawing a trend ...those who claim they can forecast climate are selling a lie. It is the human way to see patterns in data which arent really there. It fools people in finance and fools people in science too. Most of all it fools the general public. The optimum way to address climate change is not to look at the weather going up because of some ficticious trend line in the data over a random walk and then panic and implement costly policies that destroy industries. That gives a result less than 50 percent success. Scientists don't like simple random models because their careers are built on their knowledge being valued. A model without physics puts many of them out of a job with no papers to publish. They need to be seen as valued by governments. No scientist is going to tell a government that they only need to toss a coin. ZNPs detailed and thorough post of all the factors remind me of a financial advisor explaining all the reasons why the company stock price went up or down. But they are no better at predicting it than chance. |
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Evangelical, great example of the total lack of integrity concerning those that deny the science.
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This is what James Hansen is actually quoted as saying in a paper he published: Without a sharp reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, the global sea level is likely to increase “several meters over a timescale of 50 to 150 years”, the paper states, warning that the Earth’s oceans were six to nine meters higher during the Eemian period – an interglacial phase about 120,000 years ago that was less than 1C warmer than it is today. (https://www.theguardian.com/science/...ange-scientist)
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You gotta love fake news. I hear it all the time.
The New York Times said God was dead. NY city liberals have been ingesting this stuff for years. Now you join Al Gore's Climate Cult and you want the truth? Happy New Year!
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10 And the fifth poured out his bowl upon the throne of the beast; and his kingdom was darkened; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, 11 and they blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores; and they repented not of their works. Please explain what they were supposed to repent of? How are these judgments righteous response to the works that they did not repent of?
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By this time the age of grace has ended. Mankind has been warned to fear God. They refused to heed his warnings. Eventually they will learn that global warning has more to do with their sins than with their global footprint.
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Right O my brother. Like I've pointed out : It's the heat of the loins that's causing global warming.
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It's about time. I've been sick of the fake news about fake news for a long time.
'Fake news' earns top vote on Michigan university's annual list of banned words for its 'misuse, overuse and uselessness' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gets-vote.html
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And in this case manifested in their blaspheming God.
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Look at the antifa/BLM movement begun under Obama. There are no stats that prove Police are targeting blacks, but who cares, enough people are convinced of it to take "action."
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God's judgements are righteous. The reference to them blaspheming God is "over the plagues". But the plagues were a judgement for something. It couldn't be the blaspheming, instead that is merely evidence that they refused to repent.
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But one thing is interesting. They stopped blaming Trump for the calamities. They realized global warming was a farce, and they recognized the God of heaven was behind the climate "change." They no more were liberal agnostics and atheists. They had to make a choice about God. Unfortunately a bad one.
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This pattern you cite cannot begin with God's judgement. It would have to begin with God's word followed by man's disobedience which then brought God's judgement. Blaspheming is evidence that they refuse to repent even though they were reaping what they sowed. The judgement is on the Sun allowing it to scorch man (Ozone hole) with great heat (climate change). Why? What actions by man prompted this response by God? Blasphemy refers to a lack of respect, reverence for God. It is the act of insulting or showing contempt for God. Trump's comment asking for more of that "good ole global warming" is blasphemy. So we have God's word, Man's disobedience, followed by God's judgement on the Sun (Climate change as evidenced by Puerto Rico, Houston, and California) followed by Man's blasphemy (Trump's comment) which will be followed by more judgement. So then why not fill in the first two -- what was God's word and what was Man's disobedience?
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I thought we were talking about those who blasphemed God. Now you're really out there.
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Clearly Trump's comment was sarcastic and disrespectful. Blasphemy.
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Trump has been using it to discredit all those that are critical of him. That's why I'm tired of hearing it. That's fake news too.
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But "Blasphemy?" Little harsh don't you think? Maybe this cold weather is getting to you. Perhaps you should take a break, and enjoy your vacation. If not, awareness will lower the boom on you for being a rabid "fundamentalist" who runs around yelling "blasphemer."
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Now you understand?
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If you deny the scientists calling them a "cult", "atheists" and "agnostics" then you are making this all about God. You started down this path. If anyone is too harsh it is you in your denial of any and all who would raise an alarm.
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Revelation clearly describes a judgement of God on the Sun. He pours out a bowl on the Sun and as a result it can burn men with fire and great heat. My interpretation is that there is a definite order -- 1. God speaks a word 2. Man disobeys that word 3. God judges Man 4. Man either repents as King David did, or he blasphemes as those in Revelation do. Ohio, Awareness and I all agree that God judges the sun. The issue is in points 1 and 2. I argue that God spoke a word to us to "tend the garden" and to not "partake of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil". We disobeyed. That sin resulted in God's judgement. If the past is any measure I would guess that Awareness sees this judgement by God as some kind of ancient mythology of a vengeful God. Ohio has yet to tell us what the word was that God spoke that man subsequently disobeyed resulting in this judgement.
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He made the skies BLUE to inform us of His command, but we disobeyed.
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I have heard outrage, revulsion, and general repugnance at some of his more offensive quotes, but in all of that I still have not heard reference to "God's judgement" associated with the comments aimed at Trump by the Liberal Elites I come in contact with.
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Perhaps your family never told you this, but I heard it and read it. But still ... do you really believe your recent comment about God's judgment of the earth in Revelations was due to Adam and Eve eating the TotKoGaE and not "tending the garden" properly?
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But I didn't say I never heard that. I said I never heard the "liberal elites" in the North East say this. I will repeat, I know many doctors, lawyers in NYC, Boston, etc. None of them ever talk about this being God's judgement.
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The worm turns ... even Bannon thinks Trump is a child :
Bannon Reportedly Mulling 2020 POTUS Run, Called Trump ‘An 11-Year-Old Child’ https://www.mediaite.com/online/bann...ear-old-child/
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But never did you hear that from "Liberal elites".
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If you compare Trump with Al Gore Trump clearly comes out superior. Gore only claimed to have invented the internet. Trump claimed to have upgraded our nuclear arsenal, made flying safe, and being the first president to not be outplayed by N. Korea. And look at the forces arrayed against him! Gore merely had a trivial complaint about who won Florida, who cares, so he won Florida, is that such a big deal? But Trump is dealing with the "deep state", it is so bad that we have lots and lots of dead people voting! He has had to deal with "fake news", zombies, the deep state, war heroes who aren't really heroes, and the terrible rudeness of those who do not express his greatness. By comparison what has Gore ever had to deal with? A presidential election in which only 9 votes counted. Big deal.
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You realize of course what all this is about. Kim Jong Un is holding the world for ransom for 1 Million dollars!
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The worm continues to turn :
Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-michael-wolff
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According to Bannon Trump insulted and ridiculed all of his advisors. Witness Lee and Titus Chu would have liked Trump.
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The worm continues to turn. Trump says, shut the hell up :
Trump attorney sends Bannon cease and desist letter over 'disparaging' comments http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump...ry?id=52128555
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That worm sure is busy. This is the man that over 80% of evangelicals put into office:
'One of the best things in life is bedding your friends' wives': How Trump seduced women by goading their husbands to cheat while he made them listen over speakerphone http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nds-cheat.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzYqimDCyjs
Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro reacts to Jerusalem being declared the capital of Israel, and explains that the Jewish people relate to Jerusalem as a holy city, not as a political capital city. Jerusalem as the capital of the "Jews" is a Zionist fiction, and conflicts directly with the teachings of Judaism.
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Bad day for the Clinton crime family. Her guest house of Secret Service help was burning, and the investigation into pay-to-play Uranium One is reopened.
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Maybe she needed to burn those 33,000 emails.
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The reason she got a server in her bathroom was to prevent a permanent record of them. Lock her up!
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Hey, if the Secret Service is helping her burn emails that is evidence of the "deep State" that Trump referred to!
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Looks like she didn't pay the premiums on her "insurance policy put together in Andy's office."
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Trump is saying all kinds of nasty things about Bannon. Trump's a bad breaker-upper.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seMsq2ri6E8
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Lock 'em all up. They're all crooks.
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Steve Bannon looks like a disheveled drunk, and Wolff has a history is distorting accounts. Since Bannon did not deny what was said right away, then Trump assumed the worst, and turned on him. These high-power guys have monster egos and a super elevated sense of importance. Bannon said for months there was no Russian collusion, and then accuses all the Trump's of treason??? Sounds like Muller wants to talk to Bannon now.
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Bannon was trying to help him, they are laying the groundwork for an insanity plea. Also how can you claim collusion if Trump didn't want to be elected. Why is Trump bad mouthing this, it is his get out of jail card.
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There are now four open investigations into Hillary, and you guys are wasting all your time on the tabloids.
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I hate to break it to you O but Hilary is not president. So apart from distracting the Trump cult from Trump's train wreck it doesn't mean much to the fate of the nation.
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If the leaders of the coup d'etat get exposed and "die" themselves, then the coup has failed, has it not?
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I remember watching Hilary Clinton on the Today Show claiming that there was a "vast right wing conspiracy" against her husband. The political climate is more polarized now than it was then. As partisan mistrust rises so do conspiracy theories. On both sides.
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Getting past emails and a host of more minor things, selling 20% of our Uranium reserves to our worst enemy, who has been trying to corner the market, and then staging that Russian Reset charade and mocking Mitt Romney, is troubling to me.
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I'm hoping that the Dems don't nominate Hillary Clinton again. I wan't to see the Dem Party reformed from the bottom up. But, if you think Putin's Russia is our #1 enemy, I would think you would also be troubled be the fact that Trump who says bad things about virtually everybody never has a bad thing about Putin.
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Putin seems to have more smarts that our media.
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If interfering with the 2016 U.S. presidential election doesn't deserve a counter-punch, what does?
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Your news is out of date. They still have found no evidence of collusion. Keep digging though, I'm sure they will find lies, money laundering, etc. all of which occurred long before the actual election. Here's the real election story: That British agent Steele was paid by Clinton to gather dirt on Trump. Truth be told, Russians had next to no influence on election. It was the ***Insurance Policy*** developed by McCabe, Strzok, and many others to destroy Trump that is the real story. But, I understand, watching all those liberal hate-Trump news outlets, you missed this side of the news, and I'm sure you view it all as Hilary's vast right-wong conspiracy. Time will tell.
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Have you forgotten about all the leaks? Now we all know! But seriously, Congress has been forcing the FBI and DOJ to release documents. More are coming soon. If you want to know what is really going to happen this year, you need to watch Hannity. But I understand that your Liberal News Nazis will not permit this !
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Does Hannity have top security clearance? Does he have inside info on Mueller's investigation?
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What's up? I hope you are staying warm these days.
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I don't hook my wagon to any party, or sports team for that matter. I'm a misfit. Yes I'm keeping warm, and wish the same for you. I cut a finger off on Black Friday ... kinda knocked my wood chopping out. But loaned my log-splitter to my son's father-in-law and am getting wood from him. With the extreme cold I've really been burning thru it. Thanks much bro, for putting concern for me over politics. I feel the same toward you, as you know.
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We can confirm this from this new book (Fire and Fury). He eats a lot of Mcdonalds, we might think that is stupid but "actually it is really smart" he does this so that they can't poison him. No doubt if he ate at home his wife (or one of the ex wives) would poison him. If he booked a table at a restaurant you know the waitresses, busboys and cooks would poison him. If he went to his "friend's" restaurant you know he would poison him since Trump probably slept with his wife. Also his ability to stay sane while all of these people are out there trying to poison him, not to mention all the dead people who voted for Clinton and the deep state that is trying to bring him down, is evidence of his mental stability. In fact I will predict that they will make a movie about him and these two assets (mental stability and his smarts) will be front and center. I will also predict that all the people in the theater when they see it will have tears in their eyes. It could be from laughing so hard, or it could be sadness for what they lost (lets see how this whole N Korea things turns out).
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He reminds me of another really smart guy, Witness Lee. I remember Witness always telling us how smart he was, poor china man teaching all of these doctors of divinity, etc. The best way to know he is really smart is that he told us he is. I think I'll use this on my next job interview -- my two biggest assets are my mental stability and like I'm actually really smart. That should impress them!
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If the book is bull****, how is it that it drove a wedge between Trump and Bannon? Must be some truth in there or Trump has no reason to be pissed at "Sloppy Steve".
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On October 7, 2016, the ODNI and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) jointly stated that the U.S. Intelligence Community was confident that the Russian Government directed recent hacking of e-mails with the intention of interfering with the U.S. election process. According to the ODNI′s January 6, 2017 report, the Russian military intelligence service (GRU) had hacked the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the personal Google email account of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and forwarded their contents to WikiLeaks. "The forensic evidence linking the DNC breach to known Russian operations is very strong. In January 2017, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified that Russia also interfered in the elections by disseminating fake news that was promoted on social media."
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If I say I'm really smart it means I'm not.
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Lock Him Up? Lawmakers Renew Calls for James Clapper Perjury Charges Rand Paul: Clapper lied to Congress
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The main reasons I did not vote for him was because of his mental stability and his "smarts".
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This is an example of the Pot calling the kettle black. The US interferes in elections all over the world all the time. It is also hypocritical. When SCOTUS decided that corporations could spend unlimited dollars on elections they opened the door for all kinds of influence. Now all of a sudden they are offended that the Russians are influencing elections? As bad as this is, and I agree it is reprehensible, how is Russian influence any worse than a corporation that wants a payback (perhaps a cut in corporate taxes) or maybe shutting down the EPA or maybe telling the CDC what they can and cannot say?
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But media attacks and books on Trump are NOT partisan politics as usual in a polarized congress. I completely understand.
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Why is it the Obama administration used $300K State Dept funds to topple the Netanyahu administration, and no one called for a Special Prosecutor?
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Remember those free lance interviews and speeches where Obama screwed up big time?
No more ad libs for you Barry!
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Like Hawking said, smart people don't go around saying they are smart. And Obama can't press the button ... he's not president. But I'd take Obama over Trump, any day ... and I didn't vote for him.
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Let me repeat, Absolutely not! I don't care what color he is.** When Obama first began to run for Prez, I found out that his voting record in the Senate was THE MOST LIBERAL of all. So our relationship got off to a bad start, and only went downhill from there. And this is the issue that irks me with liberal identity politics -- if I disagree with a politician, it must be some kind of racism, or xenophobia, or misogyny, etc. on my part. It's never their political platform or experience, rather it must be who they are by birth that I have problems with. Why is it that liberals just refuse to admit this. * Sorry, bro, but Stephen Hawking doesn't speak for me. ** Neither did I have issues with Hilary because she was a woman.
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Oh Trump deliberately provokes it. He loves all the media attention. He feeds off it. He loves that we're talking about him here. And loves that you trash Obama ... as he can't trash him enough on his own ... tho he constantly tries. Trump would say, thanks bro Ohio ... you are the greatest ever on all the internet.
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I haven't found any implausible allegation in the book yet based on the way Trump presents himself in public. That includes some some possibly impeachable offenses and 25th amendment concerns. All the more probable cause warranting the Mueller investigation.
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Even Jimmy Carter, without a conservative bone in his body, acknowledged that he never saw a President get treated worse than Trump. Actually, I have never liked mainstream media. I seem to like everyone they hate. I figure the opposite of everything they say is prolly right!
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No, yours is simply hatred of conservatism and traditional values. Period.
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And the Trump Dossier, paid for by Hilary, written by a British agent, with information from Russian operatives, was NOT interfering with our elections??? No, my friend, the only "problem" in your mind was the outcome of the election.
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Nonsense. I evaluate each on their own merits. I am virtually at one with "Never Trump" conservatives.
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Excuse me. I was replying to ZNP about my Russian interference post which said nothing about Trump collusion. That stemmed from my dialogue with you in which I questioned why Trump has never counterpunched Putin. Would the dossier in question count as Russian interference if written by a British agent? I don't think so.
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I did not say it wasn't a problem, read the post -- "as bad as this is". My point how is this any different from many of the things SCOTUS says is legal? Exxon can legally influence the elections with as much money as they wish. They can go on Facebook, etc. What is the difference between Walmart influencing the election with unlimited funds or China? I think it is FUBAR.
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BTW, I am just getting started. Just the tip of the iceberg. By definition, this is way beyond mere election collusion. There are a whole host of other crimes against America and our democratic process. These are the facts. Lock 'em up.
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Keep Trump's Twitter feed going. That way the world can keep daily almost hourly tabs on the declining mental status of a deranged megalomaniac. Hopefully someone in Washington has the wisdom, ability and access to the levers of power necessary to crisis manage the Trump train-wreck to avert disaster before the train hits the wall.
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Trump administration will 'increase risk of nuclear war' with new plans to develop smaller warheads that are less destructive and a loosening of 'first-use' constraints, experts warn
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...clear-war.html
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Yesterday I watched two interesting news reports. In one day, two of Trump's recent outspoken critics were shamed in one day. Bannon was fired from Breitbart -- completely disgraced for his vindictive smears in some tabloid NYT "bestseller." Trump's impressive meeting with Congressional leaders over immigration/DACA was open to the Press. He let the world see the "Art of the Deal" in progress. If he can oversee comprehensive immigration reform, Trump will be tauted as a Presidential genius. Blitzer on CNN could not contain his shock of what happened. The other Wolff, the tell-all liar, was exposed as a fraud.
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He identified several ailments that in normal times are a liability. However, those who are manic are better able to make decisions in the midst of chaos. Second he argues against the Goldwater rule because he feels it codifies the stigma of "mental illness". Trump is probably right -- he probably is a genius. I wouldn't call him mentally stable nor would I call him smart, but genius is probably true.
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Poll: Oprah Beats Trump 48-38 with Likely Voters in 2020 Election
Got to love these polls. Yeah Hoprah! President Barack Obama, seasoned community organizer, blasted the reality TV star, without any government experience, as “uniquely unqualified,” lacking in “basic knowledge,” zero national security experience, and “woefully unprepared” to do the job of commander-in-chief.
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