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Old 03-19-2020, 08:42 PM   #1
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Dear Saints,
Do you have any good writings from Christianity besides the Local Church which help you grow in Lord Jesus and have peace and rest in Him, such as how to pray, how to discern spirits. I would appreciate if you can post some here.
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Ask the Holy Spirit to lead you to anointed books and you tube teachings on the The Holy Spirit, Who He is, His Function, the Power of the Holy Spirit, the Power of the Blood of Jesus, the Anointing of the Holy Spirit, entering the Presence of the Lord.

Remember.. we all have a measure of the Spirit... We don't all have the same measure. There are some very good teachers on you tube like Gene Kim, Robert Breaker, Charles Lawson and many others. They don't have everything right imho but I have learned a lot and grown a lot in the Lord.

On a personal note, I have written scriptures on index cards and speak/pray them and that's really how I have grown strong in the Lord. I don't just memorize them, they really make an impact in my life. One last thing I recommend, speak and ask God the Holy Spirit for guidance, counsel and understanding. He is the Spirit of Jesus.

Acts 10:38
You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

Because we have the Word of God, Jesus living in us through His Holy Spirit, we too are anointed with power from the Holy Spirit. There are lots of good teachings backed by enlightening scriptures.

Acts 16:7
and after they came to Mysia, they were trying to go into Bithynia, and the Spirit of Jesus did not permit them;

Romans 15:13
Now may the God of Hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.
We need the Presence of the Lord, the Power and the Anointing of the Holy Spirit in our daily lives

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Do you have any good writings from Christianity besides the Local Church which help you grow in Lord Jesus and have peace and rest in Him, such as how to pray, how to discern spirits. I would appreciate if you can post some here.
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Old 03-24-2020, 11:12 AM   #4
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Old 03-25-2020, 09:12 AM   #5
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Ask the Holy Spirit to lead you to anointed books and you tube teachings on the The Holy Spirit, Who He is, His Function, the Power of the Holy Spirit, the Power of the Blood of Jesus, the Anointing of the Holy Spirit, entering the Presence of the Lord.

Remember.. we all have a measure of the Spirit...
I would second this, that is, asking Him to lead you to good sources. I did this, in utter desperation, back in 1998. I was at a local, very large, Christian bookstore and was searching and searching. I did find a lot of superficial books that were little more than Christianized self-help books, or focused on human actions (with a little of Christ's name thrown in here and there to make it sound spiritual). But eventually I was wonderfully led to John Piper's book, "Enjoying God."

Through that book I came into an enjoyment of the Lord that really watered my parched soul, and through that strength was led to start fellowship and gathering with ex-LC saints in my area. Through this experience I came to see and enjoy books from many ones not specifically part of the whole LSM thing. I also learned to enjoy fellowship with all believers.

Currently I enjoy writings from TA Sparks, Hannah Whitall Smith, Bill Freeman (an ex-LCer) and others. They don't shy away from the experience of Christ and the mature word of the cross. (and sometimes someone in my fellowship may share Watchman Nee, and much more rarely, a snippet from WL)
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"Behold , how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!" (Psalm 133:1). In the following we shall consider a number of directions and precepts that the scriptures provide for us for our life together under the Word.

It is not simply to be taken for granted that the Christian has the privilege of living among Christians. Jesus Christ lived in the midst of His enemies. At the end all his disciples deserted him. On the cross he was utterly alone, surrounded by evildoers and mockers. For this cause he had come, to bring peace to the enemies of God. So the Christian too, belongs not in the seclusion of a cloistered life but in the thick of foes. There is his commission, his work.

"The Kingdom is to be in the midst of your enemies. And he who will not suffer this does not want to be of the Kingdom of Christ; he wants to be among friends, to sit among roses and lilies, not with the bad people but the devout people. O you blasphemers and betrayers of Christ! If Christ had done what you are doing who would ever have been spared?" (Luther).

"I will... gather them; for I have redeemed them: ... and they shall return" (Zech 10:8,9). When will that happen? It has happened in Jesus Christ, who died "that he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad" (John 11:52), and it will finally occur visibly at the end of time when the angels of God "shall gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other" (Matt. 24:31). Until then, God's people remain scattered, held together solely in Jesus Christ, having become one in the fact that, dispersed among unbelievers, they remember Him in the far countries.

So between the death of Christ and the Last Day it is only by gracious anticipation of the last things that Christians are privileged to live in visible fellowship with other Christians. It is by the grace of God that a congregation is permitted to gather visibly in this world to share God's Word and sacrament. Not all Christians receive this blessing. The imprisoned, the sick, the scattered lonely, the pro-claimers of the Gospel in heathen lands stand alone. They know that visible fellowship is a blessing. They remember as the Psalmist did, how they went "with the multitude... to the house of God, with the voice of joy and praise, with a multitude that kept holy day" (Psalm 42:4).


The above is taken from the first two pages of "Life Together" by Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

As God is not a respecter of persons, the human author is not important but that it is inspired by God's Word. And, that is what makes the reading fresh, inspiring, challenging, encouraging, uplifting and builds one up in the faith.

Yes there are many, many good writings besides LSM materials.
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Him, not ourselves

Revelation 22 :1 And he showed me a pure River of Water of Life, clear as Crystal, proceeding out of the Throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Lord is working in our lives to make Himself our source. Why are we passing through all kinds of experiences and various environments? They are designed by God to bring us into Himself as our source. So what we are going through right now is another step toward the goal of working a realization into our consciousness that our life is God Himself. When God reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, He produced a relationship that makes Him, not ourselves, the source of our lives."

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Revelation 22 :1 And he showed me a pure River of Water of Life, clear as Crystal, proceeding out of the Throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Lord is working in our lives to make Himself our source. Why are we passing through all kinds of experiences and various environments? They are designed by God to bring us into Himself as our source. So what we are going through right now is another step toward the goal of working a realization into our consciousness that our life is God Himself. When God reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, He produced a relationship that makes Him, not ourselves, the source of our lives."

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Hey, that sounds familiar - was it in this past week's Supplied Life?
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Revelation 22 :1 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the Throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Lord is working in our lives to make Himself our source. Why are we passing through all kinds of experiences and various environments? They are designed by God to bring us into Himself as our source. So what we are going through right now is another step toward the goal of working a realization into our consciousness that our life is God Himself. When God reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, He produced a relationship that makes Him, not ourselves, the source of our lives."

Bill Freeman, March 30
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2nd and 3rd paragraph for March 30

This entire universe is destined to be consummated in God as the source of all things. The pure river of water of life is "proceeding out of the Throne of God and of the Lamb". As God's eternal habitation, the holy city, New Jerusalem, is fully supplied with God as the source. The pure river of water of life proceeds out of the Throne of God and of the Lamb. The source of supply is the Triune God flowing out and watering every part of the the city. This vision of the consummation of all God's work in eternity future unveils Him as the unique source of the universe.

To be redeemed and regenerated is to be ushered into the realm of the new creation, where God begins a process in which experientially the old things start to pass out of our lives. The old things are related to our self as our point of reference. We lived out of our own impulses, our own choices, our own thoughts. But now we begin to live by revelation, that is, by what God has revealed to us in His Word. It is when we live by revelation that God becomes our source. He reveals to us the purpose of our human life. We no longer take man's views and concepts as the basis of our human existence. Revelation unveils to us God's eternal purpose. This revelation causes us to be persons who are living to be conformed to the image of God Son.
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Another great brother teaching on YouTube is the channel Good Hope. Takes short passages of scripture and breaks it down for the listener in a way I really appreciate.
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Old 04-01-2020, 04:42 AM   #11
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Thanks for sharing on good Christian writings all.

I see a digital version of The Supplied Life “devotional” is available free here https://www.olivetree.com/store/prod...roductid=16677

www.One Body.life has links to Henry Hon’s books and other resources including podcasts, blogs, conferences, regarding.... well, one body life (the truth and practice of the oneness that Jesus Christ prayed for to the Father in John 17).
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Do you have any good writings from Christianity besides the Local Church which help you grow in Lord Jesus and have peace and rest in Him, such as how to pray, how to discern spirits. I would appreciate if you can post some here.
Brothers and Sisters,
Let's try to honor our new friend's request a little better than we have been. As good and as helpful as they might be, Bill Freeman's writings are probably too closely related to those of Nee/Lee to get BreadFish in the direction he is trying to head. I think recommending T. Austin Sparks should also be considered "off-topic".


Someone has recommended R.C. Sproul and Ligonier ministries. I think this is an excellent choice.
Here is the Ligonier website:
Ligonier.Org
Some works I would recommend would be:
Timothy Keller: The Reason for God - and - Prayer : Experiencing Awe and Intimacy with God
Gordon Fee: How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth
J.I. Packer: Knowing God

I would also recommend the writings and YouTube videos of:
John Piper
Kevin DeYoung
David Platt
Matt Chandler
James White
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Brothers and Sisters,
Let's try to honor our new friend's request a little better than we have been. As good and as helpful as they might be, Bill Freeman's writings are probably too closely related to those of Nee/Lee to get BreadFish in the direction he is trying to head. I think recommending T. Austin Sparks should also be considered "off-topic".
Then I think I can also recommend Dr. J. Vernon McGee.

What do you think UntoHim?
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Then I think I can also recommend Dr. J. Vernon McGee.

What do you think UntoHim?
Hey Ohio
I like J Vernan McGee's sermon's a lot. I don't have any of his books but still find him on the radio even though he passed away umpteen years ago.
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I like J Vernan McGee's sermon's a lot. I don't have any of his books but still find him on the radio even though he passed away umpteen years ago.
Hi countmeworthy!

I love the "thru the Bible" manner of teaching the scripture. Did not God anoint His word in the Gospel accounts and the epistles? It irks me now to hear ministers "hunt and peck" for verses to support their "burden." With that technique, one can get the Bible to say anything you want it to say.
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Hi countmeworthy!

I love the "thru the Bible" manner of teaching the scripture. Did not God anoint His word in the Gospel accounts and the epistles? It irks me now to hear ministers "hunt and peck" for verses to support their "burden." With that technique, one can get the Bible to say anything you want it to say.
No kidding Ohio!! You are so right!! It's no wonder few Christians (at least in my circle) truly know how to grasp the Word of God. J Vernan McGee's manner of teaching is timeless and he never makes you feel you are following a man.

I watched 'The ten Commandments' last night. I always pick up something from the movie. Sephora at one time looked directly at the camera perhaps showing off her beauty You just gotta laugh. But on a more serious note,
it was hard for me to wrap my head around the people especially at the end of the movie crying out to 'MOSES!' 'MOSES!' "MOSES!"

They did not cry out to the GOD that delivered them. I remember when the Holy Spirit revealed to me that the reason the Israelites kept disobeying God is because they did not know HIM like Moses did. They saw God's Miracles and His Acts and experienced miracle after miracle but Moses spoke with God face to Face and even saw His backside. They never did. I don't know if they were not allowed to or it never occurred to them.

Perhaps God knew their hearts and knew the best way to approach Him was through the Law, the priests and the High Priest.

In any case, seems to me, too many Christian people even today prefer to follow a man instead of getting to know the LORD through the Holy Spirit's guidance and the Anointed Word of God, Living and Operating in us.
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Let's try to honor our new friend's request a little better than we have been. As good and as helpful as they might be, Bill Freeman's writings are probably too closely related to those of Nee/Lee to get BreadFish in the direction he is trying to head. I think recommending T. Austin Sparks should also be considered "off-topic".
Huh . . . okay, I can possibly go with your idea regarding Bill Freeman's writings (even though he was ousted from the LC in the 1980s), possibly . . . but I certainly don't understand your grouping T. Austin Sparks in there. What is your reason for that?

And isn't the "direction he is trying to head" - and that we want to help this person go - really just Christ? I know that probably sounds simplistic, but I think true nonetheless.
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..but I certainly don't understand your grouping T. Austin Sparks in there. What is your reason for that? And isn't the "direction he is trying to head" - and that we want to help this person go - really just Christ?
Well I think our new friend BreadFish is seeking something more practical than "just Christ". If he wanted more of "just Christ" he probably wouldn't be on this forum seeking something other than the teachings and writing of Witness Lee. He/she sounds hungry and inquisitive for something more..something different. Maybe when this person has had a chance to taste and see that the Lord is good outside the confines of the Local Church, maybe after reading and studying the writings and speakings of others for a year or so, then maybe they can delve into somebody like T. Austin Sparks.
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Well I think our new friend BreadFish is seeking something more practical than "just Christ". If he wanted more of "just Christ" he probably wouldn't be on this forum seeking something other than the teachings and writing of Witness Lee. He/she sounds hungry and inquisitive for something more..something different. Maybe when this person has had a chance to taste and see that the Lord is good outside the confines of the Local Church, maybe after reading and studying the writings and speakings of others for a year or so, then maybe they can delve into somebody like T. Austin Sparks.
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Do you have any good writings from Christianity besides the Local Church which help you grow in Lord Jesus and have peace and rest in Him, such as how to pray, how to discern spirits. I would appreciate if you can post some here.
I also recommend Clarence Larkin's writings. He has a very good book called "The Spirit world" and another one called "Rightly dividing the Word". You can download them for free on line. Clarence Larkin lived in the late 1800's and died in 1924 or 1925. Hope this helps you too.
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