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Is this the latest defense LSM has come up with?
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Surely you can't be so naive to think it is not a factor. What exactly is wrong with the LC having an "Asian face" (as Aaron put it). Or an African face etc..
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You tell me who is more racist. Even your leaders know it. Otherwise this thread would not even exist. And aren't you made in the self-righteous image of Witness Lee -- accusing others of exactly what you are guilty of? (Romans 2.1)
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What about the African American churches? Aren't they 99.9% African American? |
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Please take this nonsense elsewhere.
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But I'm not sure if we're dealing with racism here. I, for example, don't even know what Evangelical's race is. I'm Scots/Irish, with English on my mother's side. I guess that makes me white. And at war with myself. But from what I've seen of the white race I sometimes wish I could peal my whiteness off. The white race certainly can't claim superiority. But I'm curious. I must have missed something. Please tell me why EvanG is being accused of racism?
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Here EvanGelly takes a shot at all Americans as racists. There are dozens of reasons why I find this post so disgusting, and that's why I decided to stop visiting Alt-Views a while ago. Your bolded post above also reeks of the same. Is any race without gross sin and wretched calamity against their fellow man? What color would you like to be? Read about their history and you will be pealing off every color of the rainbow. Who is claiming superiority? I'm not. All races have a horrible past. The media today selectively focuses on white guilt, and you think only their past stinks. Keep reading history. Anyways, adios friend, believe what you want. You seem to be in the vocal majority around these parts, probably because the real majority is generally silent, and possibly occupied more positively.
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Hey bro Ohio, thanks for coming back. I guess ZNP left too.
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But I agree with you. White superiority is plainly just another negative trait of the white race. However, I have a college friend that thinks those of India are superior. I think it's common to other nationalities as well. In fact we have a name for it : Xenophobia. It's a common trait among humans. Witness Lee had it toward all other Christians. So we're all familiar with it ... aren't we bro Ohio. It's NEGATIVE ... and not a trait humans should be proud of? Should we bro Ohio?
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Race is a false construct. Or, to put it another way, race is socially constructed. Therefore, to deprive people of goods [material or spiritual] on the basis of race is evil. Nevertheless, why would you proselytize people on the basis of race? What difference does it make if people who identify with different ethnicities are proportionate in your group? What are you trying to accomplish? An egalitarian face to the world?
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The bible record shows that God evangelized on the basis of race (not false construct, I somewhat agree with what you said, but the culture). First the Jews, then the Gentiles except the Asians, eventually the Asians later. Acts 16:6 The Spirit of Holiness forbade them to speak the word of God in Asia. Still a few more races to go, such as the South American tribes. |
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My post was addressed to Aron who seemed to be saying that the local churches have an "Asian Face" is a problem. His posts suggest that there is somehow a problem if the local churches have an "increasingly Asian Face" as he put it. When we start using the term "Asian Face" and such we are no longer talking about culture but about race. That sort of remark could be considered a racist remark, but I think has some truth to it. Some may notice the "Asian Face" and decide the church is not for them just because of that. A white superiority complex is seen in American language, where Americans will use just the term "American " to refer to a white American (they probably wouldn't say British-American, for example), but use the term "Asian American" or "African American" or "Native American" to refer to those who are non-white. It is as if to say they are not true Americans because they are not white. America also suffers from the "white savior" complex. This is the view that only America, in particular, white America, can solve the world's problems in far away lands. For example, images of white Americans feeding black orphans are commonplace and perpetuated in society and culture. https://matadornetwork.com/change/4-...r-complex-can/ But what is interesting is Ohio's response to my statement: We have African Americans and people of diverse color in all our community churches. It's only in the Recovery that there is only one color. He seems to have forgotten that America is full of 99-100% African American churches, and 99-100% white American churches. He then tried say or imply that the Local Churches are racist because we are predominantly of one race: You tell me who is more racist. Even your leaders know it. Otherwise this thread would not even exist. Basically Ohio is saying that the LC is racist simply for being who they are - Asian American. |
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I've been out of the LC a long time and don't know if this is true or not. But if they aren't also recruiting from black colleges then they are racists. I don't see this as surprising from Christendom. I was raised in the Southern Baptist, that was formed in the 19th c. in support of slavery. And I have extended family, Baptists, that claim America is being judged because it's not keeping the law of Ham, and keeping the blacks as slaves. BTW, I still love the racists in my family, as I loved my unapologetic racist father. Kentucky is a racist state, overall. Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States, was born just a few counties from mine. Clearly the Bible and Jesus doesn't cure racism in human nature. However, just because you mention white superiority doesn't make you a racist. (BTW, we're color blind on this forum, so if I may ask, what race are you?) So I still don't understand the claim that you are racist. Our dear brother Ohio has run away and so isn't here to explain the claim.
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