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Old 07-12-2016, 06:23 AM   #1
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Hi Renee, I like those suggestions for you and your daughter. And taking something of the ministry of Brother Lee also, with the Word and prayer going before, preparing your spirit for the help obtained in an interpreted word.
That the local churches got to the point of putting Witness Lee and his words above Jesus Christ (the one mediator between God and man) and God's word is what eventually caused me to run away fast. In one generation, we lost what took 1,000 years to recover, man's ability to have a printed copy of the Bible, and read it (instead of having it locked away by the church)! Judgement has been declared on that! Warning! Warning!, Danger!, Danger! Will Robinson!
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:46 AM   #2
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That the local churches got to the point of putting Witness Lee and his words above Jesus Christ (the one mediator between God and man) and God's word is what eventually caused me to run away fast. In one generation, we lost what took 1,000 years to recover, man's ability to have a printed copy of the Bible, and read it (instead of having it locked away by the church)! Judgement has been declared on that! Warning! Warning!, Danger!, Danger! Will Robinson!
Hey JJ! I like that = Passion. Nothing lukewarm about your response. As Christ said to one of the churches in Revelations 2 -- he had no use for their tepid participation. I've often wondered about WL & WN saying their church had little need for emotions, thinking or feeling. Jessie Penn-Lewis in her War On The Saints explained that this call to mute thinking and feeling was the work of Satan since God wants a fully functioning mind to choose Him, i.e., Paul was brilliant and had full use of his mind and emotions in his priestly work, and we are all called to be priests. Similarly, Christ showed a lot of emotion and yet also showed how it was supplanted to God's will.
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Old 07-14-2016, 08:50 PM   #3
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Hey JJ! I like that = Passion. Nothing lukewarm about your response. As Christ said to one of the churches in Revelations 2 -- he had no use for their tepid participation. I've often wondered about WL & WN saying their church had little need for emotions, thinking or feeling. Jessie Penn-Lewis in her War On The Saints explained that this call to mute thinking and feeling was the work of Satan since God wants a fully functioning mind to choose Him, i.e., Paul was brilliant and had full use of his mind and emotions in his priestly work, and we are all called to be priests. Similarly, Christ showed a lot of emotion and yet also showed how it was supplanted to God's will.
I agree with you about godly use of emotions and mind being part of biblical truth and proper Christian experience. To be fair though, your summary of WN and WL teachings on this topic probably needs some balance with what they actually taught vs what their followers may say and practice (which I observed was often way out of balance).

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Old 07-12-2016, 01:09 PM   #4
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That the local churches got to the point of putting Witness Lee and his words above Jesus Christ (the one mediator between God and man) and God's word is what eventually caused me to run away fast. In one generation, we lost what took 1,000 years to recover, man's ability to have a printed copy of the Bible, and read it (instead of having it locked away by the church)! Judgement has been declared on that! Warning! Warning!, Danger!, Danger! Will Robinson!
This is a true statement. At one of the last "brothers" meetings I was in, when a question was asked about a moral/biblical issue an elder's first response was something like what did WL say about that? Nothing about what the bible says, or what Jesus, Paul, Peter, John or even one of the church fathers. It was Lee, Lee, Lee! Even if Lee was pure (and I don't think he was) his elevation, exaltation, and promotion by the current LC leadership disqualifies them and their movement from being followed (at least for me and my family).
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