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Old 11-06-2019, 08:46 PM   #1
UntoHim
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Default Co-workers In The Lord’s Recovery Declare Themselves as APOSTLES!

Excerpt from the latest addition to Shepherding Words:
The Proper Way to Deal with Problems in the Church

Those who demand that the co-workers in the Lord’s recovery be beholden to them in addressing problems in the church disregard God’s governmental arrangement for administering the church as His household. The New Testament shows that in His household God has ordained two offices to represent Him governmentally—apostles and elders. The apostles labor among and minister to the churches as a whole and appoint elders in the local churches . Elders administrate a local church and shepherd the saints in its locality. The elders have the responsibility to deal with problems among saints in their locality. Problems that are extra-local, that involve elders, or that a local eldership is unable to resolve may be dealt with by the apostles
(emphasis mine)

We know who the elders are by name. Many (most) are listed in the the North American publication of Local Churches. (The last one of these I have possession of is a number of years old.) Not sure if one has been distributed lately. Does the newest version of this directory/publication include the names of the apostles?

Why can't we know who these apostles are BY NAME. The apostle Paul named himself as an apostle. The apostle Peter named himself as an apostle. Many apostles were named in Acts. How can these men, their history and their qualifications to assume the office of an apostle be examined and approved when they hide behind the mysterious, self-imposed title of "The co-workers in the Lord’s recovery in North America"? Witness Lee NEVER DECLARED HIMSELF AS AN APOSTLE. In fact, I was in quite a number of meetings over a period of 20+ years where he specifically and strongly demanded that he not be called or thought of as an apostle. In one of the lawsuit depositions (The God-Men deposition I believe) WITNESS LEE SWORE UNDER OATH AND PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT HE DID NOT CONSIDER HIMSELF AN APOSTLE, AND TAUGHT HIS FOLLOWERS NOT TO CALL HIM AN APOSTLE. Now these "Co Workers in the Lord's Recovery" have declared themselves to be apostles. Words mean nothing brothers! I challenge you to demonstrate "the signs of a true apostle" as was done by the apostle Paul. (2 Corinthians 12:12) I challenge you to prove and demonstrate to the rest of the body of Christ your qualifications for assuming to the office of an apostle.


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