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Old 01-11-2018, 08:15 AM   #2501
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"We are going to take a strong look at our country's libel laws ... You can't say things that are false, knowingly false, and be able to smile as money pours into your bank account."
Said the world's most infamous liar who daily makes scandalous claims about people on Twitter with the intention of damaging their reputation. He thinks he is above the law so whatever laws he proposes won't apply to him.
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Said the world's most infamous liar who daily makes scandalous claims about people on Twitter with the intention of damaging their reputation. He thinks he is above the law so whatever laws he proposes won't apply to him.
Classic case of Trump Derangement Syndrome on display.
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Yeah, a rich TV star with no experience in government would be a train wreck.
A train wreck???

The Hollowwood Elites and the Media are all slurping up the Oprah love.

Not you?
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Actually, Trump had a mental lapse in the meeting and practically gave away the farm. During the meeting on Tuesday, Trump was asked by Dianne Feinstein if he would support "a clean DACA bill." by which she meant without strings attached to Trump's wall. Trump replied "Yeah, I would like to do it." So he and his minions had to go back and correct what he said after the meeting. Some negotiator .
Smooth and deceitful Feinstein tried to use senate-double-speak to distort the negotiations.

Congratulations you found a dead nit.
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A train wreck???

The Hollowwood Elites and the Media are all slurping up the Oprah love.

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Well I guess O as president isn't any crazier than I've seen so far. But NOprah
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Well I guess O as president isn't any crazier than I've seen so far. But NOprah
No it won't be crazy, it will be a lovefest. (Not a lovefeast.)

She will be Queen of the free world! Her Highness!
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Actually, Trump had a mental lapse in the meeting and practically gave away the farm. During the meeting on Tuesday, Trump was asked by Dianne Feinstein if he would support "a clean DACA bill." by which she meant without strings attached to Trump's wall. Trump replied "Yeah, I would like to do it." So he and his minions had to go back and correct what he said after the meeting. Some negotiator .
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Smooth and deceitful Feinstein tried to use senate-double-speak to distort the negotiations.

Congratulations you found a dead nit.
The wall is the product of a pathological fetish of a "stable genius." It's nothing but a foolish want of a foolish man, that doesn't have a clue of what he's doing.

But now, at least, that "big beautiful wall" turns out not to be 2000 miles long. Why? Because there's natural barriers that don't need a wall, Trump says.

The wall will stop nothing and nobody, but will cost us billions, that, could be used to provide universal health care.

The wall? That's worthy of one of my Bahahahaha's. But out of respect for bro zeek I won't do it.
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The wall is the product of a pathological fetish of a "stable genius." It's nothing but a foolish want of a foolish man, that doesn't have a clue of what he's doing.

But now, at least, that "big beautiful wall" turns out not to be 2000 miles long. Why? Because there's natural barriers that don't need a wall, Trump says.

The wall will stop nothing and nobody, but will cost us billions, that, could be used to provide universal health care.

The wall? That's worthy of one of my Bahahahaha's. But out of respect for bro zeek I won't do it.
I'll do it for you ... Trump's wall that the Mexicans are going to pay for bahahaha.
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I'll do it for you ... Trump's wall that the Mexicans are going to pay for bahahaha.
With the demise of that rotten NAFTA agreement, and trade imbalances with Mexico being corrected, I do believe that Mexico will pay for that wall many times over.

Since DACA is about to expire in a couple months, and the Dems loving illegals more than our own citizens, that border wall may just get built. Ask Americans, they want the wall!

No border, no language, no culture ... no country!
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Yeah, a rich TV star with no experience in government would be a train wreck.
She has a great campaign slogan:

"You get a car, and you get a car, and you get a car..."
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The wall is the product of a pathological fetish of a "stable genius." It's nothing but a foolish want of a foolish man, that doesn't have a clue of what he's doing.

But now, at least, that "big beautiful wall" turns out not to be 2000 miles long. Why? Because there's natural barriers that don't need a wall, Trump says.

The wall will stop nothing and nobody, but will cost us billions, that, could be used to provide universal health care.
Yobama borrowed a Trillion a year, and it was not enough for universal health care???

You want decent health care??? You need to leave the country and then come back in as an immigrant. I'm serious, your beloved Obama has penalized you and I for our (lack of) skin color.

I know a Chinese lady, a recent US citizen, who has always had free health care, without any deductibles. It's unbelievable.

This is why the working class voted for Trump!
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She has a great campaign slogan:

"You get a car, and you get a car, and you get a car..."
Please give a nice one to brother awareness. Yeah!
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With the demise of that rotten NAFTA agreement, and trade imbalances with Mexico being corrected, I do believe that Mexico will pay for that wall many times over.

Since DACA is about to expire in a couple months, and the Dems loving illegals more than our own citizens, that border wall may just get built. Ask Americans, they want the wall!

No border, no language, no culture ... no country!
Yes, there are more ways to pay for it than just fork over the cash.

Also I think the whole pretense that it is a boondoggle is absurd. If you extend the wall 10 miles on either side of the major cities you could force illegals to walk for 4 or 5 hours before getting to a road. They could easily be spotted with infrared at night or regular light during day using drones and then cops could be alerted that wait for them.

As for tunnels you can easily detect them using local seismographs. Since it probably takes weeks to build a tunnel it would be a simple matter to identify the location, put it under surveillance and arrest the entire ring.

Using Drones, seismographs and strategic extensions to the wall it could be done efficiently and effectively.
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Yes, there are more ways to pay for it than just fork over the cash.

Also I think the whole pretense that it is a boondoggle is absurd. If you extend the wall 10 miles on either side of the major cities you could force illegals to walk for 4 or 5 hours before getting to a road. They could easily be spotted with infrared at night or regular light during day using drones and then cops could be alerted that wait for them.

As for tunnels you can easily detect them using local seismographs. Since it probably takes weeks to build a tunnel it would be a simple matter to identify the location, put it under surveillance and arrest the entire ring.

Using Drones, seismographs and strategic extensions to the wall it could be done efficiently and effectively.
The complaint that the "wall won't stop everyone" is completely bogus.

That's like saying a deadbolt and security system can't stop every thief.

The point of security is to make it so difficult that the thief goes elsewhere.

"Good walls make good neighbors."
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She has a great campaign slogan:

"You get a car, and you get a car, and you get a car..."
Seal got it right: "Oh I forgot, that's right.....you'd heard the rumours but you had no idea he was actually serially assaulting young stary-eyed actresses who in turn had no idea what they were getting into. My bad."

https://screenshots.firefox.com/Y8Vf....instagram.com

These pics are far more incriminating of this reality TV star, than the words of the last one.
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"Good walls make good neighbors."
Do we really want to wall off Mexico? Seems to me we would want to be closer to them ... maybe make them our 51st state.

What's next? Wall off Canada?

The wall is asinine.
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Yobama borrowed a Trillion a year, and it was not enough for universal health care???
Is this fake news? If not, back it up.
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Is this fake news? If not, back it up.
The debt went up $5 Trillion under that "evil' Bush who started all those wars.

The debt went up $10 Trillion under Obama, who saved us all that defense spending.
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Do we really want to wall off Mexico? Seems to me we would want to be closer to them ... maybe make them our 51st state.

What's next? Wall off Canada?

The wall is asinine.
You got walls and a locked door on your house?

Sounds a little asinine don't it?

Don't you want to be closer to your "neighbors?"
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You got walls and a locked door on your house?

Sounds a little asinine don't it?

Don't you want to be closer to your "neighbors?"
Really? I didn't take Awareness for someone who would put walls around his house. I figured he'd want to be closer to his neighbors.
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Really? I didn't take Awareness for someone who would put walls around his house. I figured he'd want to be closer to his neighbors.
Even if family is next door, you still need walls and a door. With a lock.

Imagine if, like me, you lived in CrazyTown, USA.

I need a fence too.
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President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they discussed protecting immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to several people briefed on the meeting.

“Why are we having all these people from ****hole countries come here?” Trump said, according to these people, referring to countries mentioned by the lawmakers.

Trump then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries such as Norway, whose prime minister he met with Wednesday.
Trump is a racist and White Supremacist. Apparently his dementia has reached the point where he is unable to keep overt expression of his racial hatred in check.
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Trump is a racist and White Supremacist. Apparently his dementia has reached the point where he is unable to keep overt expression of his racial hatred in check.
What else would you call MS-13 gang members?
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You got walls and a locked door on your house?

Sounds a little asinine don't it?

Don't you want to be closer to your "neighbors?"
Cute, but silly. The walls of my house are for shelter from the elements, not to wall people out. And I have no walls around my property : (sadly ... I've got my ex-wife up the road, and her redneck Kentucky homegrown backwoods hillbilly boyfriend has been known to go out in the backwoods behind my house shooting off his guns - for show of threat. I shoot back ... just to let him know, and to hopefully keep any possibility of serious confrontation at bay.)

It dawns on me, walls are handy for wars, and of prevention/fear of them. I've noticed that republicans have a fancy for wars ... even lying us into them. Are we declaring war on Mexico?

And unless I'm going out of town, I don't lock my doors. Nor even, ever take the key out of my pickup.

My neighbors are welcome. I do unsolicited favors for them. I even welcome the JW's. I haven't even walled them off.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. Walls can be very good at times, and necessary.

Just not for Mexico. I haven't met a Mexican I haven't liked ; those Catholics are good people. You know that bro Ohio.
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Cute, but silly. The walls of my house are for shelter from the elements, not to wall people out. And I have no walls around my property : (sadly ... I've got my ex-wife up the road, and her redneck Kentucky homegrown backwoods hillbilly boyfriend has been known to go out in the backwoods behind my house shooting off his guns - for show of threat. I shoot back ... just to let him know, and to hopefully keep any possibility of serious confrontation at bay.)

It dawns on me, walls are handy for wars, and of prevention/fear of them. I've noticed that republicans have a fancy for wars ... even lying us into them. Are we declaring war on Mexico?

And unless I'm going out of town, I don't lock my doors. Nor even, ever take the key out of my pickup.

My neighbors are welcome. I do unsolicited favors for them. I even welcome the JW's. I haven't even walled them off.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. Walls can be very good at times, and necessary.

Just not for Mexico. I haven't met a Mexican I haven't liked ; those Catholics are good people. You know that bro Ohio.
Oh, that's funny!

You don't need locks on your doors.

You got a double barrel shotgun instead.

And the whole neighborhood knows.

Couple shots a night to remind them.

ZNP, would that plan work in your neck of the woods?
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Even if family is next door, you still need walls and a door. With a lock.

Imagine if, like me, you lived in CrazyTown, USA.

I need a fence too.
Sounds like you need the whole armor of God.
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Oh, that's funny!

You don't need locks on your doors.

You got a double barrel shotgun instead.

And the whole neighborhood knows.

Couple shots a night to remind them.

ZNP, would that plan work in your neck of the woods?
The best security system is a dog. I have had one four over my time here in Queens. All of them are 50 lbs or more. If you have a dog you are required by law to have a 6 foot fence surrounding your home. However, I had one dog that was incredibly athletic. This dog could leap, put a paw or two into the fence and be over it in less than ten seconds. She infuriated me.
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The best security system is a dog. I have had one four over my time here in Queens. All of them are 50 lbs or more. If you have a dog you are required by law to have a 6 foot fence surrounding your home. However, I had one dog that was incredibly athletic. This dog could leap, put a paw or two into the fence and be over it in less than ten seconds. She infuriated me.
Never heard of such a fence law for dogs, but my wife wants a fence to also keep out the deer.

Our new puppy scares no one. She gets so excited when visitors stop over, that she jumps up and "leaks" on their feet. So funny.
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Sounds like you need the whole armor of God.
People who lack faith need guns and walls.
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Oh, that's funny!

You don't need locks on your doors.

You got a double barrel shotgun instead.

And the whole neighborhood knows.

Couple shots a night to remind them.
Nah, every once in awhile I'll put one in the air in the middle of the night, to shut the dogs up that bark all night. It works just long enough to get back to sleep.

And I haven't shot and killed anybody, so far. Tho I certainly have dreamed about it ; mostly back when my friend and wife betrayed me. I'm over that now.

But get this : I've got a crazy hillbilly up the road, that has threaten to "take me out" a half dozen times, and I still don't have a wall.

Reagan, "Tear down this wall!". Trump, "Build this wall."
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Nah, every once in awhile I'll put one in the air in the middle of the night, to shut the dogs up that bark all night. It works just long enough to get back to sleep.

And I haven't shot and killed anybody, so far. Tho I certainly have dreamed about it ; mostly back when my friend and wife betrayed me. I'm over that now.

But get this : I've got a crazy hillbilly up the road, that has threaten to "take me out" a half dozen times, and I still don't have a wall.

Reagan, "Tear down this wall!". Trump, "Build this wall."
Bad comparison. Did you just get that off of CNN?

German wall was inside one country built by a foreign country.

Trump's wall protects his borders from criminal crossings.

But you knew that. And please don't shoot the dogs.
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King David had no faith in God?
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King David had no faith in God?
Jesus is the model of faith for Christians. Accept no substitute.
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This is a democracy, if 50% lack faith then they have the right to request a wall.
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This is a democracy, if 50% lack faith then they have the right to request a wall.
Greater than 50% of the Electorate voted against Trump and his wall. According to a Fox news poll only 30% of Americans want Trump's wall.
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Greater than 50% of the Electorate voted against Trump and his wall. According to a Fox news poll only 30% of Americans want Trump's wall.
And every single poll convinced us that Hilary would win.

Polls are like politicians. They always lie with their statistics.
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And every single poll convinced us that Hilary would win.

Polls are like politicians. They always lie with their statistics.
The national polls weren't that far off — they predicted more people would vote for Clinton. That's what happened.

The election was so close that in pre-election polling only two States, Ohio and Wisconsin, were outside the margin of error. If you looked at the data instead of the hype, you knew that the election was too close to call.

Aren't you an engineer? You should get this stuff.
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Greater than 50% of the Electorate voted against Trump and his wall. According to a Fox news poll only 30% of Americans want Trump's wall.
Good point, we aren't a democracy, we're a republic. It's all about the electoral college. These last comments from Trump are despicable as president of the US. I just cannot imagine the electorate not being energized over this.

Still, I blame the Democratic Party for his election due to their treatment of Bernie.
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The national polls weren't that far off — they predicted more people would vote for Clinton. That's what happened.
You're a smart guy. Ever hear about electoral college? That's how we elect Presidents. To claim that Hilary got more votes is like claiming that the losing football team won the game because they got more yards. If yardage wins the game, then the game is radically different. For example, no team would ever punt.

Likewise, with the electoral college system, many conservatives in Blue states like NY, OR, WA, CA, VT, CT, NJ, etc. just don't vote for President. Why should they, because their vote is insignificant.
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Good point, we aren't a democracy, we're a republic. It's all about the electoral college. These last comments from Trump are despicable as president of the US. I just cannot imagine the electorate not being energized over this.

Still, I blame the Democratic Party for his election due to their treatment of Bernie.
All Presidents swear. Are you so naive? LBJ was famous for chewing out those who opposed.

America is so bored to death with this liberal fake outrage on the mainstream media. OMG Trump drinks 12 cokes a day. He must be a racist!

The Dems just screwed the Dreamers. The deal is off the table. Durbin chose their smear tactics over real people. So much for the "compassionate" progressives. They just got exposed like Hollywood.
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All Presidents swear. Are you so naive? LBJ was famous for chewing out those who opposed.

America is so bored to death with this liberal fake outrage on the mainstream media. OMG Trump drinks 12 cokes a day. He must be a racist!

The Dems just screwed the Dreamers. The deal is off the table. Durbin chose their smear tactics over real people. So much for the "compassionate" progressives. They just got exposed like Hollywood.
I am well aware of the language used by LBJ and Nixon. That is not my point.

My point is that the President of the US represents all of the people who are citizens. These comments of his were insulting to many American citizens.

The President also represents America to the rest of the world. What he said here is a shameful representation to the rest of the world.

As for "America being outraged" it may be that Trump was able to win by the slimmest of margins, but you should remember that this margin included many people who I expect have since reconsidered their decision to vote for him. We'll know for sure in a few months.
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I am well aware of the language used by LBJ and Nixon. That is not my point.

My point is that the President of the US represents all of the people who are citizens. These comments of his were insulting to many American citizens.

The President also represents America to the rest of the world. What he said here is a shameful representation to the rest of the world.

As for "America being outraged" it may be that Trump was able to win by the slimmest of margins, but you should remember that this margin included many people who I expect have since reconsidered their decision to vote for him. We'll know for sure in a few months.
He didn't insult any US citizens. Trump was in a closed door meeting trying to solve immigration problems. It was Dick Durbin who went public with this nonsense to score points with his base. The media has been smearing Trump to the rest the world for two years, just like they did Reagan and Bush.

Why is it that Pelosi can make comments about "5 white guys" and the media says nothing? She's not racist, and Trump is???

I have long been convinced that most Dems care nothing for minorities or immigrants. They simply use them as pawns to advance their agenda. They care nothing about the Dreamers, and never intended to pass laws. They actually want Trump to enforce our laws in March, exporting immigrants. These Dems are hypocrites. Go back and listen to what they said 10 years ago.

Congressman Smith (TX) said the same thing: "If the Democrats don’t want to negotiate, they’ll always come up with some excuse, and maybe this is an indication that they were never serious to begin with, but they’ll always come up with some reason not to negotiation, or make an excuse not to make concessions. This is just another distraction, another excuse for the Democrats to do that. I think when things settle down over the next several days we’ll find out whether the Democrats were really serious and want to have an immigration bill, want to try to something for some of the so-called DACA folks. We’ll know that in the next few days. It’ll be an indication of whether they’re negotiating in good faith whether they come back to the table."
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All Presidents swear. Are you so naive? LBJ was famous for chewing out those who opposed.
But you'd be singing a different tune if Obama had said it. As you would if Obama went around daily bragging about himself, and inflating his crowds, so forth and so on.

It's not the expletive per say. It's the racist implications. Haitians are black, Norwegians are white.

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America is so bored to death with this liberal fake outrage on the mainstream media.
Not your omniscience again. Not fair. We don't have that. We're clearly at a disadvantage.. Either that or you're parroting Hannity.

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OMG Trump drinks 12 cokes a day. He must be a racist!
Don't make me Bahahaha, it'll upset bro zeek. 12 cokes equal racism. Bah ......

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The Dems just screwed the Dreamers. The deal is off the table. Durbin chose their smear tactics over real people. So much for the "compassionate" progressives. They just got exposed like Hollywood.
And Trump called it a "bill of love" too. He can't be a racist. He loves those brown people. So much that he'll give up his wall for them. Stupid dem's.
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But you'd be singing a different tune if Obama had said it. As you would if Obama went around daily bragging about himself, and inflating his crowds, so forth and so on.
That's not true. Said it a thousand times. Don't care what politicians say. Only care what they do.

Obama was a teleprompter orator protected by the Press. His gaffes rarely surfaced. The media hushed them all.

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It's not the expletive per say. It's the racist implications. Haitians are black, Norwegians are white.
Norwegians are "white" because they refused to join the EU. Sweden is no longer "white."

Haiti is a S******e because of their corrupt leaders installed by the Clintons, ask any of their people.

Remember: Trump is a "racist" because his parents came from Europe.

Unfortunately, you and I are "racists" too. We were born than way. Doesn't matter what we say or do.
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I have long been convinced that most Dems care nothing for minorities or immigrants. They simply use them as pawns to advance their agenda. They care nothing about the Dreamers, and never intended to pass laws. They actually want Trump to enforce our laws in March, exporting immigrants. These Dems are hypocrites. Go back and listen to what they said 10 years ago.
This has nothing to do with democrats. A high school teacher should be able to quote the president without getting fired. There are many teachers and administrators who have been fired for saying much less than what the President said. That is despicable.
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This has nothing to do with democrats. A high school teacher should be able to quote the president without getting fired. There are many teachers and administrators who have been fired for saying much less than what the President said. That is despicable.
Don't blame Trump for rules at school.

Teachers work with juveniles, and I suppose Trump does too.
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Compare Trump's question:
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“Why are we having all these people from ****hole countries come here?
with Nathanael's:

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Jesus came from a place that was considered a ****hole. Should Jesus be rejected because of that? No, and neither should the immigrant or refugee.

Jesus asks us to welcome the stranger.

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Matthew 25:35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in;
Even the Old Testament asks us to care for the stranger.

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This is a pointed message to us in America, a nation of immigrants.
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Jesus came from a place that was considered a ****hole. Should Jesus be rejected because of that? No, and neither should the immigrant or refugee.

Jesus asks us to welcome the stranger.

Even the Old Testament asks us to care for the stranger.

This is a pointed message to us in America, a nation of immigrants.
Contrary to liberal opinions, America is NOT a nation if immigrants, it is a nation of law-abiding citizens.

Nazareth was never considered a ****hole. Backwards, uneducated, and unlettered, yes. Perhaps the Samaritans were considered a ****hole.

Concerning the Old Testament Israel, Exodus 12:48 says, "But if a stranger sojourns with you, and celebrates the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near to celebrate it; and he shall be like a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person may eat of it." Since you like to apply the scriptures to the USA, perhaps this is a good one to vet the immigrants with -- let them all be circumcised!

But seriously zeek, why don't you be honest here and admit that Trump was never against immigrants, only illegals.
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Democrats are once again calling President Donald Trump “racist” over an alleged remark attributed to him during immigration talks, yet they continue to wholeheartedly embrace an organization that aborts predominantly black and Hispanic babies.

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Planned Parenthood was born in eugenic racism and elitism, and Margaret Sanger was the mother who gave birth to the world’s largest abortion chain,” Ryan Bomberger, chief creative officer of The Radiance Foundation, told Breitbart News last year. “In the city where Planned Parenthood began, more black babies are aborted than born alive according to the New York Department of Health and Mental Hygiene. This is not the result of justice. It’s the result of animus.”
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That's not true. Said it a thousand times. Don't care what politicians say. Only care what they do.
I get that bro Ohio, and I can't blame you. Most of what politicians say is just flapdoodle ... or con's. But sometimes saying something is doing something ... like Trump's tweets. And saying itholes of the sh kind was doing something. Trump was defining his immigration policy.

He didn't want blacks coming from itholes of the sh kind. He wants whites to immigrate to America. But why would Norwegians want to come to this ithole of the sh kind? A country where they're more likely to get shot, where there is no universal heathcare, like they have, plus free education to the highest levels, and paid parental leave, subsidized daycare, and more women in political power.

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Obama was a teleprompter orator protected by the Press. His gaffes rarely surfaced. The media hushed them all.
Why are conservatives so prone to conspiracy theories?

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Norwegians are "white" because they refused to join the EU. Sweden is no longer "white."
What? Did they swap with Haiti? And Haiti is white now?

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Haiti is a S******e because of their corrupt leaders installed by the Clintons, ask any of their people.
Norwegians are saying these things. Fox news is. I call fake news. I'm surprised you didn't claim that they made a pact with the devil.

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Remember: Trump is a "racist" because his parents came from Europe.

Unfortunately, you and I are "racists" too. We were born than way. Doesn't matter what we say or do.
Well I most certainly was raise by my father to be an outspoken virulent racist. You would have loved him. He would have hated president Blackenstein too.
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Balderdash. Fake news :

Abortion Correlation
Abortion rates have risen and fallen throughout presidencies of both parties, making drawing a direct correlation between the two untenable.

In 1969, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) began collecting nationwide data on the numbers of abortions, the abortion ratio (abortions versus live births), and the abortion rate (abortions versus the US population of women aged 15-44 years old).

While these data are not perfect due to inconsistent (and sometimes non-existent) reporting from different states, they can be used to analyze relative changes in abortion rates during the presidencies of different presidential parties, as we will do here using numbers from the CDC’s annual abortion surveillance study. Red portions of the lines show the ratio and rates of abortions occurring under Republican administrations, and blue under Democratic administrations:


See the chart here :
https://www.snopes.com/abortion-rates-presidencies/
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Contrary to liberal opinions, America is NOT a nation if immigrants, it is a nation of law-abiding citizens.

Nazareth was never considered a ****hole. Backwards, uneducated, and unlettered, yes. Perhaps the Samaritans were considered a ****hole.

Concerning the Old Testament Israel, Exodus 12:48 says, "But if a stranger sojourns with you, and celebrates the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near to celebrate it; and he shall be like a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person may eat of it." Since you like to apply the scriptures to the USA, perhaps this is a good one to vet the immigrants with -- let them all be circumcised!

But seriously zeek, why don't you be honest here and admit that Trump was never against immigrants, only illegals.
Trump could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and you'd support him. He satisfies your need for a cult leader now that you've left the local church. You're as faithful as a family dog when it comes to following powerful men. Or, so it seems from what you post here. You'd make a good hatchet man like Steve Miller. You should apply for a job with Trump. You can cite me as a reference.
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Trump could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and you'd support him. He satisfies your need for a cult leader now that you've left the local church. You're as faithful as a family dog when it comes to following powerful men. Or, so it seems from what you post here. You'd make a good hatchet man like Steve Miller. You should apply for a job with Trump. You can cite me as a reference.
Bunch of nonsense. Too bad a little common sense cannot infiltrate your hateful progressive mindset.
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Balderdash. Fake news :

Abortion Correlation
Abortion rates have risen and fallen throughout presidencies of both parties, making drawing a direct correlation between the two untenable.

In 1969, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) began collecting nationwide data on the numbers of abortions, the abortion ratio (abortions versus live births), and the abortion rate (abortions versus the US population of women aged 15-44 years old).

While these data are not perfect due to inconsistent (and sometimes non-existent) reporting from different states, they can be used to analyze relative changes in abortion rates during the presidencies of different presidential parties, as we will do here using numbers from the CDC’s annual abortion surveillance study. Red portions of the lines show the ratio and rates of abortions occurring under Republican administrations, and blue under Democratic administrations:


See the chart here :
https://www.snopes.com/abortion-rates-presidencies/
You never addressed the point.

Sure abortion rates have declined, but they are still vastly disproportionate for minorities.

Do you dispute that?

Do you dispute that the founder of the largest abortion provider today was a racist who's goal was to limit minorities thru abortion?
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I get that bro Ohio, and I can't blame you. Most of what politicians say is just flapdoodle ... or con's. But sometimes saying something is doing something ... like Trump's tweets. And saying itholes of the sh kind was doing something. Trump was defining his immigration policy.

He didn't want blacks coming from itholes of the sh kind. He wants whites to immigrate to America. But why would Norwegians want to come to this ithole of the sh kind? A country where they're more likely to get shot, where there is no universal heathcare, like they have, plus free education to the highest levels, and paid parental leave, subsidized daycare, and more women in political power.


Why are conservatives so prone to conspiracy theories?


What? Did they swap with Haiti? And Haiti is white now?

Norwegians are saying these things. Fox news is. I call fake news. I'm surprised you didn't claim that they made a pact with the devil.


Well I most certainly was raise by my father to be an outspoken virulent racist. You would have loved him. He would have hated president Blackenstein too.
Obama called Libya an itshow of the sh kind.

Haven't heard that?

Obama was far more racist that Trump.

Plus he hated Christians and Jews.
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You never addressed the point.

Sure abortion rates have declined, but they are still vastly disproportionate for minorities.

Do you dispute that?

Do you dispute that the founder of the largest abortion provider today was a racist who's goal was to limit minorities thru abortion?
What I dispute is that the demmies are to blame. If I remember correctly it was the Supreme Court that ruled for Roe v. Wade.
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Obama called Libya an itshow of the sh kind.

Haven't heard that?

Obama was far more racist that Trump.

Plus he hated Christians and Jews.
Does your omniscience kick in automatically?
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I have been trying to follow all of these posts and I think I have got it.

Ohio - doesn't like the Obama administration's legacy and does like Trump.

Awareness -- doesn't like what he sees with Trump, but didn't see anything not to like about Obama.

Does that sum it up?
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What I dispute is that the demmies are to blame. If I remember correctly it was the Supreme Court that ruled for Roe v. Wade.
Then I could agree that no Democrat-appointed SCOTUS justice has ever performed an actual abortion.

Thus, they bear no responsibility for the slaughter of millions, with minorities always profiled.

Is that the kind of dispute you are forwarding?

Is it not a little patronizing to call me "omniscient?" What gives?
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I have been trying to follow all of these posts and I think I have got it.

Ohio - doesn't like the Obama administration's legacy and does like Trump.

Awareness -- doesn't like what he sees with Trump, but didn't see anything not to like about Obama.

Does that sum it up?
What bothers me the most is how the media and FBI/DOJ enabled the Obama administration to escape accountability for criminal actions: Using IRS to target Tea Party, Hilary private server, Uranium One, Steele Dossier, etc.
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Is it not a little patronizing to call me "omniscient?" What gives?
Sorry if it seems that way, but you display an uncanny ability to see into the minds of others, out here, and into those of liberals, like Obama.
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Sorry if it seems that way, but you display an uncanny ability to see into the minds of others, out here, and into those of liberals, like Obama.
You and the liberal media judged Trump as a racist based on reading his mind.

I can't read minds like you can.
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I happened to catch MSNBC the other morning and this is prolly the most "damning" video on Trump and Bannon I have seen.

Well worth your watch.
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You and the liberal media judged Trump as a racist based on reading his mind.

I can't read minds like you can.
Whether he is a racist or not, it has the appearance of evil. This is why if a teacher spoke these words they would be fired.

I have very close family relations from Norway. Yet I cannot see how the thought that we need to have more immigrants from Norway instead of from Haiti and Africa can be viewed as anything but racist. I don't know his heart, only God does, but the appearance of racism is undeniable.
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Whether he is a racist or not, it has the appearance of evil. This is why if a teacher spoke these words they would be fired.

I have very close family relations from Norway. Yet I cannot see how the thought that we need to have more immigrants from Norway instead of from Haiti and Africa can be viewed as anything but racist. I don't know his heart, only God does, but the appearance of racism is undeniable.
Undeniable only to those who already hate Trump.

A racist person sees only racism. That is why white people are all condemned by liberals as "privileged and racist." You too!

A business man sees only worker productivity. He looks at work ethic, character, training, upbringing, etc.

A politician has to look at citizen safety.

School officials must protect minor children.
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You and the liberal media judged Trump as a racist based on reading his mind.

I can't read minds like you can.
Then stop acting like it. OMG, why would I ever want to read Trump's mind? I'm not like the suckers that paid for his Trump University. I'm surprised you didn't. You could have become as successful as him.

I've never liked the narcissist that had to splash his name in large letters on buildings, and I watched his show just once. Not because I could read his mind, but because I couldn't take that he flashed his ego out on full display, and acted like the consummate big shot.

You seem to be able to read Obama's mind, why don't you do the same to Trump? Maybe you'd learn what you eventually learned about Witness Lee. Then maybe it wouldn't take you as long.

Really bro Ohio. I've heard of party first, but how can you fall for a personality cult leader? Maybe since you can't admit that he LC is a cult, you're still susceptible to it. So again you're headed for a great disappointment. But this is no Witness Lee, or Roy Moore. This is the guy that has The Biggest Button. Do I need to read his mind about that, or just his tweets?
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Then stop acting like it. OMG, why would I ever want to read Trump's mind? I'm not like the suckers that paid for his Trump University. I'm surprised you didn't. You could have become as successful as him.

I've never liked the narcissist that had to splash his name in large letters on buildings, and I watched his show just once. Not because I could read his mind, but because I couldn't take that he flashed his ego out on full display, and acted like the consummate big shot.

You seem to be able to read Obama's mind, why don't you do the same to Trump? Maybe you'd learn what you eventually learned about Witness Lee. Then maybe it wouldn't take you as long.

Really bro Ohio. I've heard of party first, but how can you fall for a personality cult leader? Maybe since you can't admit that he LC is a cult, you're still susceptible to it. So again you're headed for a great disappointment. But this is no Witness Lee, or Roy Moore. This is the guy that has The Biggest Button. Do I need to read his mind about that, or just his tweets?
Wow!

You having a bad day? Try to stay warm!
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Wow!

You having a bad day? Try to stay warm!
There you go, reading my mind again. But this time you're spot on.

I'm not having problems staying warm. I keep the stove hot. In fact I'm thinking of opening a door. It's hot in here.

Actually, and this is where your omniscience comes in, I've been having bad days for over a week now. My septic is clogged. This is not the time of year to dig my septic tank up. I've been going in honey bucks. Which is puzzling. I've looked. For the life of me I can't find any honey in there. Just it of the sh kind.

Even tho I'm white Trump wouldn't like me. I'm living in a ithole, of the sh kind.
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Even tho I'm white Trump wouldn't like me. I'm living in a ithole, of the sh kind.
Gives new meaning to the term "oval office".
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...-division.html
This morning, Fox News marked the Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday by publishing the article I linked above with the headline "Please stop politicizing Martin Luther King Day. It's a day for national unity, not political division."


Fox is deliberately revising what this day means -- and distorting what Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. fought for and actually believed. He knew that his life and the work of racial and economic justice were antithetical to a cheap, easy comfortable status quo.

With a GOP aministration in the White House, working with Fox News to reinforce white supremacy and attack Black protest, it's worth remembering exactly what Dr. King actually said about racial justice, economic justice, and politics. Here are a few key ideas Dr. King stated or wrote during his life:

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Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection." -- Letter from Birmingham Jail, April 1963
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The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity...


Whites, it must frankly be said, are not putting in a similar mass effort to reeducate themselves out of their racial ignorance. It is an aspect of their sense of superiority that the white people of America believe they have so little to learn.

The reality of substantial investment to assist Negroes into the twentieth century, adjusting to Negro neighbors and genuine school integration, is still a nightmare for all too many white Americans…These are the deepest causes for contemporary abrasions between the races. Loose and easy language about equality, resonant resolutions about brotherhood fall pleasantly on the ear, but for the Negro there is a credibility gap he cannot overlook. He remembers that with each modest advance the white population promptly raises the argument that the Negro has come far enough. Each step forward accents an ever-present tendency to backlash." -- "Where do we go from here?" August 1967
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From the sixteenth century forward, blood flowed in battles over racial supremacy. We are perhaps the only nation which tried as a matter of national policy to wipe out its indigenous population. Moreover, we elevated that tragic experience into a noble crusade.

Indeed, even today we have not permitted ourselves to reject or feel remorse for this shameful episode. Our literature, our films, our drama, our folklore all exalt it. Our children are still taught to respect the violence which reduced a red-skinned people of an earlier culture into a few fragmented groups herded into impoverished reservations." - "Why We Can't Wait, 1963"
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This morning, Fox News marked the Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday by publishing the article I linked above with the headline "Please stop politicizing Martin Luther King Day. It's a day for national unity, not political division."


Fox is deliberately revising what this day means -- and distorting what Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. fought for and actually believed. He knew that his life and the work of racial and economic justice were antithetical to a cheap, easy comfortable status quo.

With a GOP aministration in the White House, working with Fox News to reinforce white supremacy and attack Black protest, it's worth remembering exactly what Dr. King actually said about racial justice, economic justice, and politics. Here are a few key ideas Dr. King stated or wrote during his life:
"Shallow understanding" and "Lukewarm acceptance" are two very judgmental terms.

"White america" and "White moderates" are two very racists terms.
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"Shallow understanding" and "Lukewarm acceptance" are two very judgmental terms.

"White america" and "White moderates" are two very racists terms.
ZNP, don't you fear being called a racist?

I understand there is a way out for you. You can claim to be white on the outside, but black on the inside. Apparently it's becoming very popular in liberal circles. Just get your hair frizzed out like former DNC chair DWS. Kind of like a rotten potato, but better than an Oreo.

And, btw, they will excommunicate you for sacrilege if you infer that MLK said something/anything racist.
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zeek, thanks for posting these quotes. I used to respect MLK, though I admit that I knew little about him.

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From the sixteenth century forward, blood flowed in battles over racial supremacy. We are perhaps the only nation which tried as a matter of national policy to wipe out its indigenous population. Moreover, we elevated that tragic experience into a noble crusade.
MLK may have been a "doctor," but he apparently never studied a page of real history. History is filled with those who attempted to wipe out indigenous peoples. Start with Mexico and Canada, our closest neighbors, and keep going.
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Palestinians Attempt to Bomb 1,000 Jewish Pilgrims Visiting Joseph’s Tomb, Judaism’s Third Holiest Site

How long will liberal progressives cling to the lie that Palestinians are "victims?"
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How long will liberal progressives cling to the lie that Palestinians are "victims?"
How long is the world going to deny the reality on the ground? This map shows the expansion and occupation of the Jews in Palestine since 1946. The green is the Palestinians, the white is the Jews.:

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How long is the world going to deny the reality on the ground? This map shows the expansion and occupation of the Jews in Palestine since 1946. The green is the Palestinians, the white is the Jews.:
Your map is bogus. Palestine never was a country.

The land was a desert and uninhabitable until Israel got there.

You also conveniently forgot a few wars in which Israel was attacked by all her mooslum neighbors.

Are you anti-Semitic? Then you must be a white supremacist. How does that make you feel? You are on the same side of history as Hitler.

Sound crazy? That's exactly how the media sounds to me.
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"Shallow understanding" and "Lukewarm acceptance" are two very judgmental terms. "White america" and "White moderates" are two very racists terms.
It's almost impossible to reason about people without making judgments in terms of typical-case prototypes. One should recognize that these are generalities and that may not apply in any given particular case.
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It's almost impossible to reason about people without making judgments in terms of typical-case prototypes. One should recognize that these are generalities and that may not apply in any given particular case.
I begin my class every year with an ice breaker, two truths and a lie.

My students have no trouble believing the following (all of which are true):

1. One of my classmates in High school was the son of the bass player for the Rolling stones.

2. One of my classmates in High school was heir to the throne of England

3. The most famous person from my High school was a high school dropout.

4. The most famous person from my university was a university drop out.

5. At 12 years old my dad was rescuing sailors from the Arizona at Pearl Harbor.

But here is the one that they just cannot believe

6. My Uncle's house was bombed by the KKK in Jackson Ms.

(They are like -- wait, was he white?).
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zeek, thanks for posting these quotes. I used to respect MLK, though I admit that I knew little about him.

MLK may have been a "doctor," but he apparently never studied a page of real history. History is filled with those who attempted to wipe out indigenous peoples. Start with Mexico and Canada, our closest neighbors, and keep going.
King's doctorate was in theology. Of course, you are overstating your argument, but, yes, he was wrong about the history of genocide. Surprisingly, he overlooked the divinely-mandated genocide of ancient Israel according to the Hebrew Torah.
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King's doctorate was in theology. Of course, you are overstating your argument, but, yes, he was wrong about the history of genocide. Surprisingly, he overlooked the divinely-mandated genocide of ancient Israel according to the Hebrew Torah.
And historian scholars attribute that "divinely-mandated genocide of ancient Canaan" due to their hideous practice of child sacrifice.

When the Spaniard Cortez found the same religious practices in the New World, he wiped out the Aztec armies. The Mayan and Incan civilizations had the same evil customs.

Judeo-Christianity, in contrast to all pagan religions, has done more to eliminate genocide that anything else. And I include the RCC of the dark ages to be a pagan religion, worshiping Mary and the idols.
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I begin my class every year with an ice breaker, two truths and a lie.

My students have no trouble believing the following (all of which are true):

1. One of my classmates in High school was the son of the bass player for the Rolling stones.

2. One of my classmates in High school was heir to the throne of England

3. The most famous person from my High school was a high school dropout.

4. The most famous person from my university was a university drop out.

5. At 12 years old my dad was rescuing sailors from the Arizona at Pearl Harbor.

But here is the one that they just cannot believe

6. My Uncle's house was bombed by the KKK in Jackson Ms.

(They are like -- wait, was he white?).
Teasers, no doubt. Do you plan to reveal their identities?
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Teasers, no doubt. Do you plan to reveal their identities?
Bill Wyman's son, 16th in line to the throne, Norman Rockwell, Howard Hughes, my dad's father was a captain in the navy and his backyard was less than 100 yards from where the Arizona was docked.

Uncle -- Bob Kochtitzky (he was working with black churches).

BTW I went to two different High Schools, one in England and one in NY.
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I find something incredibly insulting with the news that is not even being commented on. How many people are in this meeting with the President of the US and are not listening to the president when he is speaking?! That is just disrespectful and insulting. I can't believe they are acknowledging this publicly!

Also, I was told by Trump that he was going to get the best and brightest for his cabinet and we have dottering fools that can't hear what he says, can't remember what he says and don't even realize that Norway is a white country. Can't we find a few qualified people to work in our government?
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