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04-27-2017, 06:12 PM | #1 | |
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Re: The Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox Church!
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It is the same for me. Whenever I post anything about LSM the replies I get are as if I run LSM and am Witness Lee himself. You raise an interesting point I have not considered - "Denominations of the purest form". I would argue that the existence of a denomination is conditioned not upon what they do but what they are, how they are setup and what they represent and stand for. It is possible for a genuine church to have 90% fornicators as members - it is possibly if the state of the church is not so good. Paul addressed these kind of genuine churches. It is possible for a sect or division to have no fornicators as members - it is easy to do, just ban anyone from your church who is not a fornicator. I hope you see my point. People are characterizing who is a church and who is not based upon the quality of their practice or teaching. Not based upon the fact they stand for a particular "flavor" and do not see themselves as representing the whole body, but only part of it. That is, a group is not a denomination just because it has an "all welcome" sign on the front. It is a denomination because it does not believe itself to be the local expression of the universal church in the city. In other words, it admits that they are only "one of many churches" in the city. By saying that, they are really admitting that they are "one of many sects" within the one church. If this was biblical then the version of Last Supper / Lord's table in the bible would be one of Jesus setting up multiple meetings to cater for the different needs of his disciples. One Last Supper at 9 am to cater to Peter and John's belief that the wine turns into the blood of Christ, and the next at 10 am to cater for Andrew and Matthew who believes the wine is just a symbol, and the Last Supper meeting at 11 am to cater for Judas Iscariot who believes communion is not necessary at all. |
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04-27-2017, 06:27 PM | #2 | |
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Re: The Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox Church!
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As I said, I'm OK with the LSM denominations opening churches - it's a free country.
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04-28-2017, 06:45 AM | #3 | |
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Re: The Bible Answer Man Converts to Eastern Orthodox Church!
[QUOTE=Evangelical;59260]Many denominations require membership - Hank had to go through a lengthy conversion process to join the Orthodox. We don't, you just have to be a born again believer in Christ. Your "violation tenfold" idea is just wrong. Why don't you join a Orthodox church and see how long it takes you to be accepted as a member, if they will accept you at all. Then come back and try to tell me that it is a "ten fold violation".
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Why are you using my name to quote things I didn't write? Either way - why use "many denominations do XYZ" to illustrate your point? The Orthodox Church does this or that - SO Witness Lee was clearly right. All of these arguments aren't predicated on the idea "denominations must be right - they are THE WAY!"
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Re: The Bible Answer Man Converts to The Eastern Orthodox Church!
Evangelical. leastofthese and others. Sorry for the recent confusion on this thread. I think it was probably an editing error on my part. Anyway, I have reconstructed the original postings by myself and Evangelical the best I can at this point. I will respond to Evangelical when I get a chance later today. Quote from Evangelical Quote:
If what you say is true, then the Local Church of Witness Lee violates this principle tenfold more than any Christian denomination that I know of. Quote from Evangelical: Quote:
You do realize that the president of your religious sect (Benson Phillips) has stated that the process of sanctification only takes place in the Local Church of Witness Lee? Quote from Benson Phillips "In any case, do not leave the Lord’s recovery. I can assure you that if you go away from the Lord’s recovery, you will have no way for the process of sanctification to go forward within you. Instead, you will just enter into a bankrupt situation. I know of no one who has left the Lord’s recovery and today is a great spiritual person on the earth. The sanctification process is carried out in the Lord’s recovery" (The Ministry Magazine Vol. 8, No. 1 Page 189, first paragraph) Quote from UntoHim Doesn't sound like Mr. Ben thinks that "only being born again" is good enough, now does it? Of course we all know very well where brother Phillips got this absurd notion, now don't we? If Witness Lee believed that "only being born again" was good enough, he wouldn't have spend 50+ years trying to convince his captive audience otherwise. Quote from Evngelical: Quote:
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