Does the Bible say we are Sinners?

[Sons to Glory!]

More specifically - does New Testament scripture teach that born-again believers are sinners?

[Raptor]

Why such a basic question? Is this a trick question?

1 John 1:5-10

And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you: God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. If we say we have fellowship with Him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Raptor

Why such a basic question? Is this a trick question?

Does this passage say we are "sinners?" In other words, is this our identity? Yes we can sin, but does NT scripture call believers sinners?

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Does this passage say we are "sinners?" In other words, is this our identity? Yes we can sin, but does NT scripture call believers sinners?

If we sin, it´s because we are a sinner, there is no other option. But I guess if we are in our spirit, we are in the reality of being a son of God, not in the flesh, not a sinner and there and then we cannot sin.

"Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer..."

[UntoHim]

I don't think I could do better than Raptor here. If we sin, it's because we are a sinner.

If we repent of our sins and believe in the Lord Jesus, that he died for our sins and rose again on the third day, then our "identity" is now in Christ. But we are still subject to our old man and the old creation until that glorious day when God will redeem everything - even creation itself.

We are sinners saved by grace.
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[Sons to Glory!]

Yes we sin, but does that constitute us as sinners?

Consider these verses:

"But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." "Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come." "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." "But you know that Christ appeared to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin." "But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus . . ." Romans 5:8; 2 Cor. 5:17; 2 Cor. 5:21; 1 John 3:5; 1 Cor 1:30

So we might also ask - How many natures does one who is born from above have?

[byHismercy]

Originally Posted by Raptor

Why such a basic question? Is this a trick question?

1 John 1:5-10

And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you: God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. If we say we have fellowship with Him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us.

Amen! If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves. I think Stg is playing devils' advocate, not actually suggesting christians are sinless, right, stg?