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Thanks, I was too polite. Looks like you have gone full NRA on us.
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Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., said the administration's trade war "is cutting the legs out from under farmers and White House's 'plan' is to spend $12 billion on gold crutches." He added, "This administration's tariffs and bailouts aren't going to make America great again, they're just going to make it 1929 again."
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CNN, MSNBC, and MSM have lost the ability to alarm us. They cry wolf every day, all day long. Nobody listens to these nuts anymore. When will we hold these doomsday quacks accountable?
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China has about 1/5 of the world's population that it needs to feed.
However, it only has 8% of the world's arable land, and 20% of that has been polluted. The US exports $25 billion in food to China. Now they can slap tariffs on it, they can buy food from other countries, but both of those solutions merely raise the cost of food, they don't decrease the demand. Also, if China buys $25 billion in food from someone else we'll simply sell our food to new markets at a higher price. By comparison Trump is putting tariffs on $200 billion in goods that we import from China. It will be much easier for us to weather their tariffs than for them to weather ours. Electronics and beauty aids could all be manufactured in Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippines, etc. If they don't resolve this quickly we could develop new suppliers. China's economy desperately depends on that $200 billion. Even if this only lasts for six months they'll have tens of millions of people out of work and displaced. His proposed tariffs would raise $20 billion, much more than what he is proposing to give to the farmers to help them out. This is a battle that we can and should win. Trump was elected on a platform to address the inequities in the trade policies, that is what he is doing.
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“I’ve spoken to Allen Weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up,” Cohen tells Trump. “So, I’m all over that. And, I spoke to Allen about it.”
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My guess is (my hope) that many of the countries we are negotiating with will quickly offer some concessions so that both countries can walk away with a "win". Meanwhile that gives us even more leverage to turn the screws on China. Let's be realistic, if Trump can give $12 or 13 billion to the farmers, that will easily cover them for an entire year. Can China really play hard ball that long?
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He condemned Bill Clinton, saying he disgraced the office. But those principles he now is willing to compromise for Trump. Methinks, if God's is going to pour out wrath, it will be on Franklin ... and Trump : Franklin Graham warns ‘media spin masters’ to shut up about Trump’s Playmate payoff or face God’s wrath "The right-wing Christian has defended Trump’s affair with another mistress, porn actress Stormy Daniels, as “nobody’s business” — although he insisted in 1998 that Bill Clinton’s “sins are not private.”" https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/fra...ce-gods-wrath/
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The US lost the trade war long ago. Under Obama, the US treated every other nation as our colonial power. He went around apologizing to them all, and allowed them to rob our country blind.
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We signed very favorable trade deals with China to encourage them to move from Communist to Capitalist. That was a huge gamble for them and it is only right that we encouraged them.
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Oh look at that. Weisselberg, the finance guy Cohen mentioned on the tape with Trump has been subpoenaed to testify to the Federal grand jury that should be interesting. He's been working for the Trump family for decades. Bet you he knows a lot about Trump's finances over the years. Follow the money. Tick tock tick tock. Of course Trump knew about the payoff. He lied about that and Sarah Sanders backed him up of course. Cohen said he got tired of being a punching bag.
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Your post exposes that this was never about the 2016 election. Even you can figure that out. Muller is a thug, pure and simple, just keep digging until someone "sings and composes." But look what the impeachment did for Bill Clinton.
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Muellar is a conservative republican of long standing.
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...and everyone breaks campaign finance laws and tries to avoid getting caught by paying cash like Trump said on the tape. I know I always do that when I'm running for President. I'm like "Campaign finance laws?! Pffft! No big deal! Pay cash. $150 Grand. Weisselberg'll take care of it. Cohen is on it. I got this." That's what say when I break campaign finance laws. After all, everybody does it. That cash thing works real well as long as my lawyer isn't taping me surreptitiously. I hate when that happens. Then I have to get a thug attorney like Giuliani to go on TV and use obfuscation tactics. If I had any shame I would be embarrassed. It's a good thing I don't. Did I mention that everybody's doing this? Clinton Bush Obama everybody.
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Yeah, that explains why he stacked his entire team with with Trump-hating Democrats like Peter Strzok!
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Hey zeek, you getting a little self-righteous on us? You can now throw the first stone. Your hate bias is coming thru. And what is the penalty for breaking campaign finance laws?
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What happened to "Lock him up? and "Drain the swamp"?
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Muellar is investigating the attack on America by Russia. Anyone opposing his investigation is unpatriotic, and is being complicit with Russia.
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Yeah and upon learning of his text messages, Mueller removed Strzok from the investigation. He's on notice the FBI is going to fire him and he's appealing it according to Federal law. Plus, Congress is reviewing the whole process. Messy, but, the system is working.
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Speaking of messy, Cohen reportedly claims the president knew in advance about the infamous 2016 Trump Tower meeting in which Russians had promised his campaign dirt about Hillary Clinton. However, Cohen's legal team insists they did not leak the revelation, raising the possibility it came from the Trump team to weaken Cohen’s bargaining hand should he decide to flip and speak to special counsel Robert Mueller. They are biting and devouring one another, as Paul would say.
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Cohen's latest testimony ties Trump to a meeting seeking help from Russia. According to Guiliani there are "no corroborating witnesses" yet some of those who might be witnesses have not denied this, they simply refused to answer the questions.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-c...012322373.html Giuliani says that Cohen is just not credible! Wow! How uncredible do you have to be for Giuliani to have an issue! Incredible! (This is the guy who assured us repeatedly despite evidence to the contrary that Trump did not know about payments to Stormy Daniels).
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Can we give Trump credit for all the good things he has done this week?
1. The farmers were suffering from a trade war with China, Trump got them billions of dollars to make up for their losses. 2. There were a lot of kids torn from their parents at the border, Trump got them reunited. 3. Just two weeks ago Europe was an enemy, this week Trump signs a new trade agreement with them, making them allies once again.
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Really? I'm pretty sure the President of the US knows better than you.
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EU says farming 'not part' of US trade deal, contradicting Trump https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/gov...adicting-trump
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Bahahahahaha !!!!
Now: Giuliani: ‘Collusion is not a crime’ http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...is-not-a-crime
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The crime was when the Russians hacked the DNC and manipulated the election. Colluding with them was not a crime. This is Alice in Wonderland.
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Can you imagine what it would be like if Obama went thru all this?
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Beginning with Nixon they started to undermine the power of the press. Today with Trump it is scary, 1984 scary, how they are trying to destroy a free press.
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Trump has denied collusion with the Russians 105 times (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.acda71932350) Don Jr. said the meeting was about Russian adoption Kellyanne Conway denied the Trump campaign had links to Carter page Hope Hicks denied Trump officials met with officials from the Kremlin. Kellyane Conway said that no one from the campaign met with anyone from Russia who hoped to meddle in the election. Reince Priebus denied they had any contact. Sarah Huckabee Sanders said no contact took place. Sean Spicer said there was no contact. Don Jr. denied meeting with Russians about the campaign. But then emails showed that the meeting Don Jr. claimed was about Russian adoption actually was billed as a meeting with compromising information about Clinton. Cohen says there was a strategy meeting prior to this meeting with the Russians which included Trump. And now Giuliani says that "collusion is not a crime". So for two years we have heard every denial in the books about how "there is no collusion", "fake news" and "witch hunt". But now it seems that both Cohen and Manafort are going to confirm that there was in fact collusion, and Giuliani is tasked, not with denying that, but with saying "collusion is not a crime". We know the Russians hacked the election, we know that this involves a number of crimes (hacking, election fraud, defrauding the American public, etc) and we now have evidence of a conspiracy with the Trump campaign. So what is the defense now? Let's play the name game. Yes, conspiracy to commit a crime is a crime, aiding and abetting a fraud is a crime, obstruction of justice is a crime, but since we haven't used the term "collusion" well, I guess Giuliani is confused.
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Trump is right to call out the lies, the bias, and the fake news. If the Press really cared for their 1st Amendment rights, they would strive for accuracy and all the established principles of real journalism.
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If someone denies meeting with the "Russians," they are referring to the Russian government, ie the Kremlin. If they sit down and talk to a Russian, living in America, about Russian adoptions, is that then a lie? During the campaign isn't it to be expected by the Trump Team that Russians in the US were vetted by the Obama Administration? Instead, Obama set up this meeting to frame Trump. Once again I am surprised that a forensics teacher gets fooled by this stuff.
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Last July, Hope Hicks was with Donald Drumpf aboard Air Force One when they created a statement in response to press inquiries about a mysterious June 2016 meeting at Drumpf Tower between Donald Drumpf Jr., other top campaign officials and a Russian lawyer promising dirt on Hillary Clinton. The statement said the meeting was about Russian adoptions. I find this discussion disgusting. For two years you have been claiming "no collusion", now when Cohen testifies that there is collusion and it seems other evidence will fall as well, then Giuliani claims that "collusion is not a crime". There may be many, many liars outside of Trumps whitehouse, campaign and family. But that is irrelevant. Trump's campaign, his son, his spokespeople, his chief of staff are all proven to be liars, bold faced liars, liars who don't have the slightest respect for the american people.
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I found so many liars in the Nobama (I can play with letters too) WH, that I constantly turned them off for my own conscience sake. Of course, they all lie to gain political advantage, but which side has weaponized our intelligence and justice? None are so blind as those who refuse to see.
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“A dangerous movement, undetected by many, but real, is not challenging and eroding a great tradition of religious freedom,” Mr. Sessions said announcing the task force. “There can be no doubt it’s no little matter. It must be confronted intellectually and politically and defeated.” https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...-task-force-t/
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@realDonaldTrump who has been repeating "No Collusion" incessantly since 2016 now tweets for the first time that "Collusion is not a crime." Do you see a little shift there? Why would he make that shift today? It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort is scheduled to testify today, could it?
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How long before the first child dies from a 3D plastic gun?
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It will happen far later than the first kid killed in a car accident, or that drowned in a pool, or that was killed by a knife. So why no outrage about making cars, pools and knives illegal?
Since a "gun" is dangerous there will certainly be a kid killed by one. But that isn't the question. The real question is if the US govt actually has the power to make them "illegal". Do you want 3d printers to be illegal? If not then it would be, for all practical purposes, to make the access to the plans for them to be illegal.
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Yet over 40,000 die from car accidents a year, and where's the alarm? Now more die from opioids each year, than car accidents. There is alarm over that. Now people in real need of pain medication are being denied. Personally, people can make guns in their garage. And bombs. We're never gonna stop that. (The gun manufacture's are most alarmed over 3D printed guns). I'm more alarmed over human nature ... and ... the power of mythology & religion. But even Jesus couldn't do anything about that ... so far. If we reacted to mythology and religion, like we did to 9/11, we would ban all of them forever. Oh ... I forgot ... religion is protected by the constitution ... like guns. What was our founding fathers thinkin'?
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According to the New York Times the Trump Administration is mulling over another unilateral tax cut for the rich. They say a proposal under consideration at the Treasury Department would bypass Congress and use federal regulation to index capital gains for inflation, a $100 billion boost for high earners. Do you think the rich need another tax cut? I don't.
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Which will come first, dead child or dead terrorist? And, more importantly what will be the ratio of dead children to dead terrorists? What is the ratio of dead children to dead terrorsts by guns in America today? We can use that as a baseline. Oh, I forgot, you only care about the unborn. Sorry.
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Totally pathetic that you care nothing about them.
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Then I guess it all boils down to, who controls a woman's womb.?????
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The point is please tell us how the US government is going to actually enforce this law? You would have to outlaw 3d printers, censor the entire internet, and prohibit travel outside of the US. Is that what you are saying the govt should do? If not, how exactly does the US govt outlaw downloadable plans that would work on a 3d printer? Also, if there is no rifling on these guns they are not going to be anymore accurate than a zip gun which anyone can make, and can make out of plastic if they choose. So then, how is this any worse than zip guns which are a tiny fraction of the cost of these things?
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On the flip side censoring the internet and searching everyones computers and flash drives seems an incredibly high price to pay to keep these out of the US, and even if you did that it wouldn't work. And it is wrong to say that we cannot enforce laws against murder and theft.
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[The president’s] decisions have led the United States Senate to its own critical crossroads. And now we must choose our path. We can do the right thing. Or we can lower our standards and allow [the president] to cling to public office ― regardless of the consequences to our nation, to our system of justice, and to our future generations... So what will we do this day? Will we rise above or will we sink below? Will we condone this president’s conduct or will we condemn it? Will we change our standards or will we change our president? I guess with Trump Mitch will change his standards.
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In the last five days, President Trump has thanked Kim Jong-un of North Korea for his “nice letter,” reminisced about his “great meeting” with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and offered to meet Iran’s president, Hassan Rouhani, without any preconditions.
During those same five days, the Treasury Department imposed sanctions on a Russian bank accused of helping North Korea with weapons-related activities. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo listed stringent preconditions for any engagement with Iran. And the administration’s top intelligence and law enforcement officials vowed to combat Russian interference in the midterm elections, while Senate Republicans pushed a bill that would impose harsh new sanctions on Moscow. There is Mr. Trump’s foreign policy, and then there is the foreign policy of the rest of the Trump administration, backed by the Republican Party. This week, the two were openly at odds with each other. Be it Russia, NATO, Iran or North Korea, Mr. Trump’s staff and his party projected a radically different message than the president himself. On Thursday, the White House produced an array of top officials to dramatize the (Russian) threat and explain the nation’s countermeasures. The president was conspicuously absent. Yet at a rally in Pennsylvania hours later, Mr. Trump dismissed the special counsel’s investigation of Russian interference as a “hoax” that was impeding his efforts to nurture a constructive relationship with the Russian president. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/03/u...39ries&ref=cta
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zeek's blind and willful ignorance on full display here colluding with the NYTimes.
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When Trump says "no collusion," he means he's not colluding with his national intelligence, or even with his own aids.
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"Putin’s Russia is creating a new Reactionary International built around nationalism, a critique of modernity and a disdain for liberal democracy. "
"Its central mission includes wrecking the Western alliance and the European Union by undermining a shared commitment to democratic values. " "Putin saw that what he and parts of the right share is a hatred of liberalism." https://lacrossetribune.com/opinion/...d210fa471.html Trump was recruited by Russian intelligence and is following Putin's script.
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Stupidest thing I ever heard! Every nation on earth was built around nationalism. The Declaration of Independence resounds with "NATIONALISM." Have you guys lost your minds?
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![]() So while you claim to be a student of history you're ignorant of the downside of nationalism. Really? And you are unaware that the American Revolution began as a protest against the abuses of power of King George not as nationalistic fervor? Are you also unaware of the role of nationalism in the world wars of the 20th century? You are perhaps aware that Trump has made globalism a dirty word. In his Twitter attack he called Charles Koch a former political Ally a globalist. As a Christian Fundamentalist your sympathy with Putin's anti modernity is understandable, and of course your mentor theocrat Witness Lee was no fan of liberal democracy. Did you notice how Trump attacked NATO and the European Union before his Infamous secret meeting with Putin in Helsinki? Even Secretary of State Pompeo can't say what transpired in that meeting which was supposedly conducted on behalf of the interests of the United States. If you believe that you've taken it on faith. Free Speech Advocate that you are did you rejoice when the judge in Paul Manafort trial forbade the prosecution from using the term Russian oligarch which is exactly what those Russians are? Nixon was a crook but at least he wasn't a traitor like Trump. Putin shares your hatred of liberalism. He shares Trump's hatred for the Free Press guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. So to be called crazy by you is an honor bro. thanks
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Sorry, it is not collusion. Some top level Republican explained this to me. Apparently it is only collusion if you do it secretly, if you are very public and open about collusion and obstruction of justice, then it can't be a crime because you wouldn't have been so open and transparent about it.
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That's right. Trump has nothing better to do than to attack a couple of black guys. http://thehill.com/homenews/media/40...the-real-dummy
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Let me be clear. Trump not the media is the Enemy of the State.
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Every single political campaign at this level employs private investigators to dig dirt on their opponents. If Trump has ties to Russia and is compromised we, the American voter, needed to know that before the election.
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Yet we have not seen one piece of evidence connecting Trump to election interference! Manafort's crimes are tax evasion going back 10-15 years when he was in cahoots with the Podesta group, who by the way have immunity. With forensics guys like you, I would prefer the keystone cops.
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It is a common misunderstanding about forensic guys based on these cop shows on TV where the crime is solved in the 20 minutes given to a 30 min show.
I just finished reading about the investigation that brought down the Silk Road, a billion dollar dark web version of Amazon.com. Unlike most criminals, this guy was very smart, Phd in physics smart. And, unlike most criminals he built the entire site himself with almost no outside help. Only two people knew he had anything to do with it and he really minimized how much they knew. Also, he used the TOR network and onion routing which is designed to be untraceable. Transactions were done in bitcoin, also untraceable. Yet here is the thing, regardless of how smart you are and how careful you are everyone leaves traces. He left a tiny little trace of himself when he first started because he was the first reference to the Silk Road on the internet. That one little mistake was enough for the "keystone cops" to catch him. Second problem is that he was very well coached on how to avoid prosecution if he ever were caught. He never left his computer open and when it was closed it was encrypted. All he had to do was hit one key on the keypad and it would be encrypted. Since all the evidence of him being a criminal was on that laptop the cops had to arrest him with the laptop open to every single area of the site. Yet the cops caught him and got his laptop and were able to take down every key player in the site. But here is the common misunderstanding, they didn't do it in 20 minutes, it took two years of this guy being on their most wanted list. Baltimore Pd, FBI, DEA, IRS and Homeland security were all involved. That is not how long it took to convict him, only how long it took to find and arrest him. The trial itself probably added another year to that. When Bozo's like Trump are screaming that Mueller is on a "witch hunt" it demonstrates that they are clueless about how a forensic investigation is carried out. It can take years. But after everyone was arrested and the site was shut down and the IRS was doing their analysis guess what. They discovered two dirty cops who were acting as informants and getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars. On the one hand these investigations take longer than people think it should take, on the other hand they wind up getting every single criminal and every single crime.
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QAnon ..... bahahahahahaha ... Trump supporters ??????? A crazy bunch.
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Crazy like a fox that is. Whenever he says stuff, he's undermining the investigation and stirring up his troops of faithful believers like Ohio.
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His minions have had to walk back his statements saying that we should ignore his tweets (because otherwise it is clearly obstruction of justice) but in so doing they are telling us to ignore POTUS, that trivializes him and makes him a byword. In addition even top Republicans come out publicly and make it clear that Mueller's investigation is not a witch hunt, is valid and should continue. Crazy like a fox or crazy like a cornered dog? It seems certain that Manafort is going down for fraud and tax evasion. One wonders if Manafort has anything he can offer up on Trump to reduce his sentence. Banion has made it clear that there was 0% chance that Trump was not aware of that meeting with Russians, hence that public comment supports Cohen. All they will need is one more person who refused to respond to confirm this. What is clear is that Cohen is flipping and if anyone has dirt on Trump it is Cohen. Do not trivialize some of that dirt, it could easily be the reason that his wife and daughter are beginning to distance themselves from him. Also, it looks like Don Jr. might be an easier target than Trump. Will he really sacrifice his own son to save himself? Also, this last summit with Putin has many, many high level officials and Republicans expressing concern that the Russians have compromised Trump. National security is one valid reason to override political alliance.
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The only crime was that Trump won the election against all odds. Show me another case where the Feds went digging for years to find a crime, when there was no crime in the first place? Why don't the Feds investigate you or zeek? If they spend enough time or money, they will find something. They might have to go back 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 years but they will find something.
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It depends on the content of the meeting. Under the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 its a crime for a foreign national to spend money to influence a federal election. And if a U.S. citizen coordinates, conspires or assists in that spending, that's a crime too.
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Yes but because Trump has harped on collusion thousands of times, we know that it was collusion. Otherwise why bring it up so much?
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Treason, selling American intelligence, etc. Crimes which your favorite Trump hating Press refuses to cover.
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Trump calls it collusion. He must know.
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The crimes that this recent investigation has uncovered have only recently begun to surface. Manafort is being tried for tax evasion and fraud. 12 Russians have been indicted for fraud, hacking and tampering with our election. Cohen is clearly facing the possibility of life in prison (for all practical purposes) hence his willingness to flip. There are other members of Trump's campaign that will also be tried or else will cut deals. Now it looks like Don Jr. will be charged as well. The crimes we are looking at are foreign powers interfering with the US election for president and possible collusion with the Trump campaign to influence the election. If other crimes are discovered that are outside the purview of Mueller, he will refer them to the proper authorities (NYS DA, etc.) That is standard practice. We don't wink at evil simply because it is not in our jurisdiction (if you see something, say something). There may also be evidence that is uncovered that is not a crime, as in the Stormy Daniels case but may benefit those involved in civil suits. The reason we are digging is that America wants to trust in the process of electing a president and trust that the president we have has not been bought by a foreign entity. Although I would hate to think that Mueller looking through 20 years of my past, Zeek's past or even your past would find anything but a shining example of Jesus Christ, I do agree with you that most billionaires would be terrified to have Mueller looking through 20 years of their past. But, Trump is not like most anything.
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Far left violent Antifa mobs rioted in three Major US cities this past weekend. Antifa mobs attacked police and conservatives in Portland, Providence and Berkeley. Antifa cracked skulls and beat protesters and attacked grandmothers in Portland, Oregon on Saturday. They still talk and distort Charlottesville, VA but mum's the word when their own are violent.
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The link didn't work for me, but I did see on the news about the antifa mob and the pro Trump mob facing off and that the antifa protest was in response to the Trump rally.
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Rap Sheet: ***544** Acts of Media-Approved Violence and Harassment Against Trump Supporters The evidence is overwhelming: To support the Progressive Left is to support violence and taking away our free speech rights.
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This seems so Jesus like to me. These UUs seem to be real Christians:
Arizona clergy call activists to support migrants on border Arizona clergy are calling activists to gather this weekend at the state’s border with Mexico and leave large jugs of water on remote trails for migrants who continue to cross the desert during the dangerously hot summer. https://www.apnews.com/e9db10622f294...ants-on-border
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Obviously that is the logical conclusion of one who reads your posts.
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No problem, just direct me to any post that I wrote that would logically lead to that conclusion and I'll rectify that.
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If they were people, human beings, that needed help, YES! I don't know about subhumans. Are those coming in subhuman? What color are they?
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Here's a word from George Soros, about Corey Stewart, GOP running for senate in Virginia :
Virginia GOP Senate Candidate Says He's 'Very Proud' the State Joined the Confederacy During the Civil War https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...ederacy-during That's racism ... not even trying to hide. Proud of it actually. Campaigning on it, for the white vote.
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When the decision to join the confederacy was made that was certainly not the only factor in the decision. There is overwhelming evidence that many in the North were every bit as racist as many in the South. Many in the North were very clear that they were not fighting to abolish slavery, therefore it is ridiculous to conclude that those in the South had to be fighting to keep it. Likewise, 75% of those in the South did not own slaves, and only about 5% owned more than two. It is naive to think that 75% of those in the South were willing to die so that plantation owners could keep their plantation. This suggestion that the South was racist and the North was not is divisive. If the South is so racist why did so many freed slaves stay? The reality in the South, just like the North, is that about a third of the people are fleshly, a third are spiritual and about a third are in between. It is also very possible that the monster created (US Federal govt) can end up committing more heinous crimes than even the South did. I am not excusing the sins of the South, only cautioning against the arrogance of those in the North with their "holier than thou" attitude.
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And: "Corey Stewart, the Republican nominee for a U.S. Senate seat in Virginia, praised former slave-state Virignia's secession effort in 1861 to protect slavery."
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A closer look at America’s rapidly growing religious ‘nones’
Religiously UnaffiliatedReligious “nones” – a shorthand we use to refer to people who self-identify as atheists or agnostics, as well as those who say their religion is “nothing in particular” – now make up roughly 23% of the U.S. adult population. This is a stark increase from 2007, the last time a similar Pew Research study was conducted, when 16% of Americans were “nones.” (During this same time period, Christians have fallen from 78% to 71%.) https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ligious-nones/
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This is his quote: "But it's also the state of Robert E. Lee, and Stonewall Jackson, and J.E.B. Stuart. Because, at the base of it, Virginians, we think for ourselves," he said. "And if the established order is wrong, we rebel. We did that in the Revolution, we did it in the Civil War, and we're doing it today. We're doing it today because they're trying to rob us of everything that we hold dear: our history, our heritage, our culture." Once again, my point is very simple, Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson were two of America's greatest generals on the battlefield and I have no issue with someone from Virginia being proud of them. Not to mention George Washington and some of the other names he mentioned. I think the South and the entire US had very heinous sins to atone for as a result of slavery and the Civil war is the cost we paid for that unrighteousness and sin. That said, the claim that someone from Virginia is a racist because they are proud to be from Virginia is repulsive. *Chris Sosa, the author of the article is clearly a very biased reporter. One article of his refers to the "Trump cult" and "magical thinking". Another says that the Trump GOP is the modern day KKK and that the grand wizard is in the Whitehouse. A third talks about Trump's mental decline as being obvious and undeniable. A fourth says that Nixon was never publicly unhinged like Trump. This article says that a man running for public office in Virginia and who is unashamed to be from Virginia, even proud to be from Virginia must a racist. Let the reader beware.
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Again, I have not found a single post of mine that supports Antifa, so please help me out (there are over 5,000 posts), what post are you referring to?
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Namcy Pelosi and Maxine Waters have incited their base to violent protest. The recent breakfast attack in Philly on Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk shows that the Left is now using orchestrated social media in all the major cities to target and harass conservatives. Whether you like it or not, this culture war is forcing everyone to choose sides.
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What are subhumans? This post makes no sense.
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Put your thinking cap on brother. Trump has called 'em animals. It's an old motif. Demonizing those that aren't in our tribe is how we keep them out. In other words, we have to depict them as subhuman ... and even keep their children in cages like animals.
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Trump called MS13 animals. Have you not read how they murder their victims? Twist the facts and believe a lie? It was the Obama Admin that put kids in cages. That widely circulated pic was from 2014. Typical media smear job, eh? This one post of yours is proof positive of our biased media. Unfortunately, what you hold so dear, are just falsehoods.
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What a copout.
Put your thinking cap on and address the facts.
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Are you talking about the MAGA cap?
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Logically speaking you cannot possibly be offended by the reference to the "Trump mob" and then at the same time logically equate my reference to the Antifa mob as support. The definition of mob is -- a large crowd of people, especially one that is disorderly and intent on causing trouble or violence. Yes, it is fair to say that many of Trump's rallies do not fit that description, but you cannot possibly say that they all don't. Especially the ones with maniacs driving their car through the protesters. Nor can you claim that they are simply "bad apples" that do not represent Trump when He is calling for people at his rallies to violently attack protesters with the promise of paying their legal bills.
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/...sa-since-1990/ According to the national average we had around 458 violent offenses per 100,000 people when Obama first became president and in his last year that was down close to 386. That is a decrease of 16% in 8 years which follows the trend of the last 25 years. So it doesn't seem to make any sense to say that "gangs spread like wildfire" when Obama was president. Likewise one main reason everyone is talking about gang violence is that the media does cover it. The second reason is that organized crime has been severely crippled due to a variety of forensic tools we didn't have 30 or 40 years ago. Gangs are basically kids, no one is getting to the "wise guy" level, much less the Don level anymore. The reason we talk about the "Cartels" is that you have to go to the third world to find organized crime on that level anymore.
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I do not agree that you fight fire with fire, nor do I agree that you fight fire with gasoline. Donald Trump uses gasoline, Maxine Waters stupidly tried to "fight fire with fire". Neither is standing on righteousness.
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Fair enough, condemn the action, not the person.
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Violence on the campus from antifa shuts down conservatives -- as planned, violating 1A right to free speech -- so that nearly all universities now control the speech their students can hear. Recent protests in Portland were leftist violence. Maxine's call for public harassment continues in all major cities. The left has developed social media sites to gather forces whenever a conservative is seen in public. Trump's cabinet and staff all require security due to continued threats of violence. Sarah Sanders' liberal in-laws were even accosted at a second restaurant even after she went home. But I'm sure you can find a few conservatives who get out of control. You can then justify thousands of cases of harassment and violence against conservatives with that one loudmouth that got punched at a Trump rally. Is it too hard for you to see the difference between Trump supporters at a Trump rally shouting at CNN's Acosta, and dozens of progressives throwing water and shouting thru bullhorns at Candace Owens eating in a Philly breakfast joint?
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I don't support violence on either side, but I also don't support the White Race thing.
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Let me suggest that a "mob" will not be confined to a rally auditorium, rather will be on the streets often with masked men, weapons, and violence.
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I have concerns with both extremes. One of the necessary evils of our society is the excessive police presence and invasion of our civil liberties. Without a doubt there are trigger happy and abusive police who seem to get away with murder. Yet what has happened to Chicago is liberal policies run rampant. I heard a debate last night with two black leaders discussing the violence there. One called for increased 4th amendment protections, the other called for increased police presence. Chicago's mayor seems to believe that the violence is unavoidable -- just so that no one's "rights" are violated.
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Frenzy means "a state or period of uncontrolled excitement or wild behavior." It's not just excitement, but uncontrolled excitement. I have never seen a Trump rally reach the level of an NFL game. I went to one in 2010 and almost lost my life to some crazy drunks. You obviously are persuaded by media biased reporting. They used to condemn Tea Party rallies as "frenzied, uncontrolled, dangerous, etc." yet when it was all over, there was even very little litter on the ground.
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How about we also compare the amount of violence on both sides. We had one guy punched at a Trump rally. Isn't this almost expected? If I went to a Democratic rally shouting epithets at the speakers and the attendants, I would expect some to get upset with me. If I got hurt, it would be my own damn fault. Make sense? We have hundreds of conservatives whose lives are now endangered. They are not at rallies, they are in public spaces. Conservatives need a security entourage to speak on universities. I don't see how you can compare what is happening with "fairness."
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Antifa showed up to fight. Should have just ignored the KKK's. Who were they hurting? If ANTIFA comes to fight, they bear the brunt of the responsibility and should not be endorsed by the Press or you. Today, the biggest danger we have is not these KKK's, but the ANTIFA's. ANTIFA attacked the Portland Patriot Prayer rally. Once we allow ANTIFA to shutdown speakers on the Berkley campus or a Prayer in Portland rally, what good are our 1st Amendment rights to free speech? No, my friend, the violence we have today is one-sided. Just look at who is wearing the masks.
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Terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992. https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspi.../#12c463ba1e74
"The far left is very active in the United States, but it hasn't been particularly violent for some time," says Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism. He says the numbers between the groups don't compare. "In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders," Pitcavage says. https://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/53325...iolence-rising Violence has been ratcheting up on all sides during white supremacist rallies in recent months — but "antifa" is not planning the rallies, and statistically poses a lesser danger. https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/...ually-violent/ "US government data revealed a long record of homicides inspired by Far Right extremism: 106 people died in 62 attacks from 2001 to the end of 2016. Far Left groups over that same period caused no fatalities." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziZNro3uric
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Without a doubt Hitler's message was directed at the lowest common denominator. He was especially bitter about the loss in WWI. Just like today, there are losers in the trade agreements made between nations like NAFTA, the losers in those deals are all big supporters of Trump.
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Back to today's violent protesters. Just ask the police who they would rather see protest -- the right or the left.
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That's your partisan spin. I cited information from the Global Terrorism Database, the RAND Corporation, Cato institute and other sources. You ignored it and chose to resort to an ironic straw-man argument rather than look at facts. That's an unprincipled thing to do. If everybody does that, this country is screwed. We should oppose violence as far as possible regardless of which side of the political debate we are on.
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I often disagree with ZNP, but he's a sincere and thoughtful guy who is well read, weighs facts and works at problem-solving to find solutions. You're simply distorting his position.
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The interviewer could have done better. But, not every interview of any news organization is going to be superlative. The important point is that they did interview Kessler so that people could get and idea of what he stands for as the leader of Unite the Right before their rally in Washington, D.C today.
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What is it a part of our faith that NAFTA is an unfair trade agreement? Once again, you continue to make logical errors.
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See any news reports from Wash DC protests over the weekend? Once again, let me restate my position -- I disagree with all KKK and white supremacy gatherings and messaging, though they do have 1st Amendment rights in the US, so let them protest, and ignore them. ANTIFA however uses this as a guise for violence. Who out there is condemning their actions? Media? Democrats? ANTIFA attacks black police officers as KKK white supremacists. Does that make sense? The facts point to a simple conclusion -- ANTIFA is the real danger to America. They are anarchists, pure and simple. The media often promotes their cause. Democrats incite them. Most law enforcement refuse to arrest them. Most courts do not file charges against them. Then zeek deceptively digs up 25 year old stats using the OKC bombing (anti-govt backlash for Waco and Ruby Ridge) to "prove" that today Portland "Patriot Prayer" and such are more violent.
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Violence against police and journalists doing their jobs is wrong. Vox documented it.
"Antifa clashes with police and journalists in Charlottesville and DC Antifa says it fights fascists and neo-Nazis. But this weekend, members attacked cops and journalists." https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/...nite-the-right
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The Dems, the Obama deep state intelligentia, and the media have mounted a coup since the day Trump won the Republican nomination. All the facts confirm what I have been saying. To disprove my statement all you need to do is show me one piece of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election. Are you also blaming Trump "hate" for the firing of Strzok, who exonerated Clinton and launched the investigation into Trump?
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This to me is a little scary. What frightens the liberals the most is the truth. When it comes to the unending media smear campaign against Trump, you gleefully gulp in down. When ... Over time ... The actual facts become known, then you become fearful.
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When Trump publicly said "Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” it was the first time I know of that a major presidential candidate had actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent. If you cared about the integrity of our democracy you would have been outraged at that. But, you weren't cuz you hate the Clintons. Hell, you hate all liberals and all things liberal as you have often expressed on ths thread. You're basically a theocrat, and fascist dictator types like Trump and Putin cater to you guys. So it's no surprise if you support the dismantling of the US's alliance with liberal democracies world-wide and a new alignment with Russia and other authoritarian states. Quote:
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No. You misread the post. Try again. The fascist-dictator types are manipulating public opinion. The "theocrat" descriptor I applied to you alone. Unlike yourself I try to avoid sweeping generalization. Not all conservatives are the same just like not all liberals are the same. In fact, none of them are the same. If you dig down deep, political identities fall away. No two people are the same.
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Look at who is today defining and manipulating public opinion -- it is the media, Hollywood, the deep state, and the Democrats. Of course, no two people are identical, we have DNA do we not? But the LEFT you are apart of is characterized by a hatred of Trump, and look at what happens when someone like Kanye decides to differ. Look at how Omarosa is now their heroine. The media defines people -- loving or hating them -- by their connection with Trump. You are doing the same with me. You are unable to objectively discuss the facts of issues, rather you espouse the media line wholeheartedly. Case in point was Charlottesville. You joined the media craze in deciding that Trump and all his supporters are affirmed racists, nazis, bigots, supremacists, KKK, etc. You have no evidence of this -- but neither do you need it -- because you just swallow the media message without discernment. Apparently you lost all your discernment when you left the faith -- yet you condemn all others like me for what you do. Romans 2.1 Look at how many Dems and Repubs have flipped their position just in the last decade in order to support Obama Progressivism and oppose Trump. At one time many supported secure borders, wanted a wall, opposed gay marriage, opposed abortion, supported marriage, embassy in Jerusalem, strong military, support for police, support for ICE, etc ... the list goes on and on. You many say that there is diversity on both sides, but on major issues the Left are like lemmings headed towards the cliff. To be a conservative today often one must be willing to be an outcast from their own society.
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Here's a peek into the mind of a liberal -- only 3 minutes long
https://youtu.be/ybJCUvJwSkA "If it sounds like a diabolical puppet show, that's because it is!" I dare any of my liberal friends to rebut this.
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I'll try to do better. That's why in general to be congenial out in public it's best to stay away from discussing politics (and religion). These days are days of extreme division. Passions are high. To me it looks like a pressure cooker, that's about to blow. But didn't Jesus live in very divided times. In Matthew the crowds from all over are following Jesus. So he goes up on a mountain and speaks to "the crowds." This is after he healed all that were brought to him. So the diverse and divided crowds were hanging on his every word. What did he teach, among many other wonderful things Matthew records him as teaching : But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? Jesus wasn't for anyone being outcasts. Don't let politics make you feel that way brother.
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Lemmings have become the subject of a widely popular misconception that they commit mass suicide when they migrate by jumping off cliffs. This urban myth became widespread after this behavior was shown in the Walt Disney documentary White Wilderness (film) in 1958. However, the animals in the film are not wild animals jumping off the cliff voluntarily, rather they were bought by the producers and pushed over the edge of the cliff. Instead of suicidal behavior, what explains the drastic fluctuations in population size are environmental factors such as whether the right kind of snow is available. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemming#MisconceptionsIf it were true you would be a lemming living in a glass house throwing a stone. ![]()
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How about all those who supported this action? You conveniently forget about them. Of course.
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How many were there and how exactly did they support the perpetrators?
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Ever since Trump's campaign we have asked and wondered what era in US history "make America great again" was referring to. Now we know, McCarthy's era.
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Personally I feel the whole idea that the US govt can be separated from religion is bogus. Whether or not you agree with Sharia Law the one thing I think everyone should be able to see is that admitting your religion is part of how your society and govt are run is honest. I consider those abortionists who claim "freedom of religion" are simply dishonest. A promiscuous lifestyle is a religion. In the OT the priests of Baal and the priests of Molech were the ones that did the abortions. I interpret Baal to indicate the worship of your career and Molech to be the worship of fornication. Therefore legalizing abortion is the establishment of these religions and is prohibited by the constitution. The federal government has violated their jurisdiction when the Supreme court made this ruling. Everyone lives their life in a way that values certain things and that can be seen as the things they worship and sacrifice for. If you claim my worship of God violates the freedoms given to you by the constitution the remedy is not to allow your worship of your career or fornication to violate my freedoms. So then, "freedom of religion" indicates that our constitution provides an opportunity for everyone to be a citizen regardless of their religion, to practice that religion, speak about that, worship, meet, etc. Likewise they can vote. It doesn't mean that our govt is anti religion, or atheistic, nor does it mean that those who are elected have to deny or hide their religion. The Federal govt has no right to establish a religion, and that is what legalizing abortion does. Instead this matter should be decided by each and every state.
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The rest of your post, where you take it on yourself to define religions for other people, willy-nilly is : whack-a-noodle. Did you mean it to be that way? Are you playing with us?
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Toilet tweets? Whatever will we do with them? It is kinda fun keeping up with our clown president. Who will he attack today? Oh wait, he attacked "politicians who run Washington, D.C. (poorly)" ; he attacked everyone in Washington. But the day just got started. Who else will he attack today? It's hard to keep up with.
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Likewise, it is ridiculous to say that an atheist doesn't worship something or is somehow immune from religion or that "freedom of religion" implies that the constitution supports atheism.
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The woman has the right to decide whether or not to have sex. She has the right to decide whether or not to use contraception. She has the right to decide whether or not to live in a state where it is illegal or legal and she has the right to travel to a state where it is legal. So how is any of this violating a woman's right to choose? Quote:
What is whack a doodle is this pretense that since my beliefs and faith and values shape my politics that somehow they are unconstitutional or that this somehow indicates a support for theocracy. Every single person has a god, even the atheists. It may be their stomach, it may be Jehovah, or Jesus or Mohammed, or it may be their career, or money, or pleasure, or fornication, etc. Consider the bank robber, murderer who thinks he doesn't care about God and is atheistic/agnostic. Why are you robbing and murdering? Obviously he values the money in a bank above human life and social norms. That is his god.
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Okay bro ZNP I get it. Everybody is religious.
That's a far cry from the definition you've used in the past, that you were so fond of : Jas_1:27 Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.
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Today Trump is attacking Social Media. Eventually he's gonna run out of enemies.
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Pure and undefiled religion does not refer to the religion of atheists and hedonists. This definition is based on the Lord's 2 major commandments. Any religion will talk about their love for God, but religion is what man sees, which is their love for their fellow man. blowing yourself up based on some religious dogma is "defiled" and it isn't pure, you are being manipulated by those with a political agenda. The best test for your love for God, the father of all, is that you do unto others as you would have them do to you. Particularly widows and orphans. But murdering and robbing banks also reveals what you love. It is your religion, but is defiled and impure. The love of money is a root of all sorts of evil.
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But it says right there on our money : In God we Trust.
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The Trump swamp is getting drained, of Trump swamp creatures :
Cohen, Trump’s Ex-Lawyer, Investigated for Bank Fraud in Excess of $20 Million https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/19/n...s&ref=headline
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Giuliani : "truth isn't truth". That can't be true. Because if it is it isn't. That's absurd, contradictory, and illogical. Trump's defense is the stuff of post-truth double-talk.
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I agree with Ohio that there is a lot of fake news on these cable news networks. For example, I heard many people on CNN and MSNBC say that Trump was "petty" for revoking the security clearance of one of his critics. How do they know its petty? How do they know that Trump isn't planning on authorizing some very disturbing clandestine operations and doesn't need someone who is critical of him reading about it?
If Obama did this no one would be saying it was "petty". Imagine if Clinton did this during the Whitewater investigation or Nixon did this after Watergate. This is certainly every bit as chilling as what McCarthy did. What an insult to characterize what McCarthy did as "petty". And words matter. If the President is indeed "petty" then suing him over this would also be deemed petty. This is not simply a constitutional matter and a first amendment matter, it could very well be a national security issue.
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Breaking News: Russian hackers appear to have a new target: conservative U.S. think tanks that have broken with President Trump, a report by Microsoft found. In a report scheduled for release on Tuesday, Microsoft Corporation said that it detected and seized websites that were created in recent weeks by hackers linked to the Russian unit formerly known as the G.R.U.
The sites appeared meant to trick people into thinking they were clicking through links managed by the Hudson Institute and the International Republican Institute, but were secretly redirected to web pages created by the hackers to steal passwords and other credentials. NYTimes.com News Alert 12:04 AM
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Good for them. Celebrating Abraham's willingness to sacrifice Isaac.
Muslims Hold Massive Rally at Vikings USBank Stadium — Chanting “Allahu Akbar” https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...u-akbar-video/ It's good to live in the land of the freedom of religion.
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Manafort guilty; Cohen guilty. And Cohen implicates Trump. Trump may have to testify under oath after all. What do you think?
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I also agree with Giuliani that the charges do not name Trump, that needs to be rectified now that we have Cohen's confession. Kudos for Giuliani pointing this out. I think the best thing for the country is for Trump to resign so that he can focus his full attention on his legal woes. Especially since he has already confirmed that he was the one that directed Michael Cohen to make that payment and his lawyer Giuliani has also confirmed that he was the one that reimbursed Cohen. It is nice that in this case Cohen, Trump and Giuliani all agree about Trump's involvement in these felonies. The good news is that Pence is not implicated in any of this.
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It's not a witch hunt. It's witches hunting :
Alabama pastor asks church to pray for Trump, against witchcraft attacking him https://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/...ource=rawstory
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Why Trump Supporters Believe He Is Not Corrupt
What the president’s supporters fear most isn’t the corruption of American law, but the corruption of America’s traditional identity. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...uption/568147/
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Trump, even if he's more crooked than crooked Hillary, represents American traditional identity. After president Blackenstein, he's the last great white hope. That's more important than corrupt law.
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One question, why did CNN cover this story? Also, why did ABC news? One other question, why did PBS and the BBC?
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