Passing Gas

[awareness]

This is rather funny but it says a lot about Witness Lee.

In The Testimony of God’s Grace by Herald Hsu, a cowoker with Nee and Lee from China, he says that after Lee confronted T. Austin Sparks about the ground of locality, and getting spurned by TAS, Lee said that "TAS’s message is like passing gas"!

Now considering that usually when someone accuses another it says more about the accuser than the accused my main question is: How much of Witness Lee's message was just passing gas?

And more broadly, how many Christian ministers are out there just passing gas?

Harold Hsu's testimony here:
http://www.bcbsr.com/topics/lc_hsu.html

[Timotheist]

Perhaps he meant it in the complimentary sense

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Timotheist

Perhaps he meant it in the complimentary sense

In the Chinese culture if you burp real loud after having a meal at someone's house it is a great compliment. In fact when I had dinner with WL when he is was in SC afterwards he burped to show his appreciation. Probably passing gas is just a compliment of ATS's deep knowledge and insight into the Bible. Do you think?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Dave

In the Chinese culture if you burp real loud after having a meal at someone's house it is a great compliment. In fact when I had dinner with WL when he is was in SC afterwards he burped to show his appreciation. Probably passing gas is just a compliment of ATS's deep knowledge and insight into the Bible. Do you think?

And I guess passing gas after the meal means you're full. Maybe Lee meant, TAS was full of the Spirit.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Timotheist

Perhaps he meant it in the complimentary sense

Thanks for pointing that out. I guess it can mean something like: "TAS's messages? Oh what a relief they are." But prolly not.

By the way bro Timotheist, I took a look at a thread you started, called something like "Timotheist Exposed."

The thread is closed, for reasons I know not. Maybe UntoHim doesn't allow textual criticism on the main forum. I don't know.

What do you think of having the thread moved to Alt. Views. I think it would fit here.

Let me know and I'll do my best to have it moved.

[OBW]

Awareness,

I think you missed that the thread "Timotheist Exposed" is his blog, therefore the fact that it is closed is probably his own doing.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by OBW

Awareness,

I think you missed that the thread "Timotheist Exposed" is his blog, therefore the fact that it is closed is probably his own doing.

I did miss that. Thanks for pointing it out. The offer still stands, to bring it over here. If Timotheist is interested.

[Timotheist]

The topics I discuss on my blog are definitely "alternative view" material. I stopped posting there last year because I was about to launch into a subject that I knew would be quite offensive to some, and so I hesitated.

I have been toying with the idea of picking up that discussion here in the Alternative View section, keeping the thread open, and letting the chaos begin.

The subject: The Virgin Birth.

If you want to bring my blog posts over here to set the stage for this discussion, I am good with that.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Timotheist

The topics I discuss on my blog are definitely "alternative view" material. I stopped posting there last year because I was about to launch into a subject that I knew would be quite offensive to some, and so I hesitated.

I have been toying with the idea of picking up that discussion here in the Alternative View section, keeping the thread open, and letting the chaos begin.

The subject: The Virgin Birth.

If you want to bring my blog posts over here to set the stage for this discussion, I am good with that.

I looked over your material at Timotheist Exposed. Certainly fodder for discussion over here on Alt Vw. Bring it on over!

[Timotheist]

How about we open three threads:

1) Bring "Timotheist exposed" over here and unlock it for comments. Perhaps there is some interest in discussing my research into the crucifixion (and Passion Week), Jesus' baptism, Paradise, and my approach in general.

2) Start a "Virgin Birth questioned: the research" thread. Ideally, this thread would devote itself to a dispassionate (yeah right) discussion of the evidence.

3) Start a "Virgin Birth questioned: the implications" thread. I would love a discussion, no holds barred, to address the question: "If Jesus was born as 100% man (just a slob like one of us), then what are the impacts to WL's theology and your own?"

What does the MOVA think?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Timotheist

If you want to bring my blog posts over here to set the stage for this discussion, I am good with that.

Why not? How 'bout it UntoHim, can ya do it? Can you move his blog to a thread on AltVs? If not, I suppose we could just copy them.

One way or the other, bro Timotheist, we'll get it done.

And we can also go into the virgin birth question.

I'll just give it a kick with, Paul, our earliest writer of the books of the NT, doesn't mention the virgin birth. Yet surely, writing during the 50s and 60s, he would have heard about it, even if it was just stories going around about Jesus.