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Old 04-18-2011, 08:52 PM   #1
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Jim Moran Dies, Local Church Seizes Websites (28 June 2003)

In January of this year (2003), Jim Moran, director of Light Of Truth Ministries, probably the largest countercult ministry focused on the "Local Church", passed away, reportedly of a massive heart attack. This event effectively ended the work of Light Of Truth Ministries.
Several months later, in April, the "Local Church", represented by The Church In Fullerton, purchased ownership of Mr. Moran's research material, websites and copyrights from his estate. Since then, The Church In Fullerton has been exercising its ownership of those copyrights by demanding the removal of all Mr. Moran's works from distribution. As another consequence of these events, Internet addresses previously owned by Jim Moran or Light Of Truth Ministries, including the Light Of Truth Ministries home page located at http://www.ltm.org and http://www.thelocalchurch.org, are now owned and controlled by the "Local Church" movement. Therefore, visitors should note that material posted at those sites now are not likely to reflect Mr. Moran's original intent.
Anton Hein of The Apologetics Index has been encouraging readers to download copies of Mr. Moran's original site as cached by Google. The Church In Fullerton claims that these actions violate its copyright.

Jim Moran's Writings Removed (28 June 2003)

On June 17, 2003, Daniel Azuma, editor of the "Local Church" Information Site, received an email from representatives of The Church In Fullerton, current owners of the copyrights of the works of the late Jim Moran. The Church In Fullerton is part of the "Local Church" movement. They demanded that all Jim Moran's writings and compilations currently published on this web site be removed. The text of this letter is included below.

Dear Mr. Azuma:

We are writing to you on behalf of The Church in Fullerton to inform you of apparent copyright infringement found on your web site: http://dazuma.freeshell.org/lcinfo.
As you may know, in April of this year representatives of The Church in Fullerton contacted the executor of Mr. Moran's estate and purchased all of Mr. Moran's websites, articles, publications, postings, copyrights, trade names, trademarks and correspondence concerning the Local Church that were authored, created, assembled, collected or arranged by Mr. Moran ("the Works"). Because you currently have posted on your website numerous articles and sound files included in the Works, we are writing to inform you that any and all previous permissions or licenses to utilize and distribute the Works have been revoked (see also http://www.ltm.org/info.html). Therefore, as the new owner with the exclusive right to distribute the Works, we request that you remove these materials from your website.
Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. If you have any questions you can reach us at the above address or by email at: djsady@aol.com.

Respectfully,
Daniel E. Towle
Daniel J. Sady
For The Church in Fullerton Corporation



The editor concured that The Church In Fullerton was within their legal rights to ask for the removal of material copyrighted by Mr. Moran, and has complied with the request. Writings authored by Jim Moran remain on file with the editor but are no longer available for viewing on this site. Writings not authored by Jim Moran have not been affected.

In a return email to The Church In Fullerton, Azuma wrote:

Mr. Moran's work has been posted on my web site for many years, and it saddens me to learn that the new owners of his property do not share his desire to make it freely available to the public so that discerning individuals may make more informed decisions concerning both Mr. Moran's claims and those of the movement he critiques.

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Question to all Posters on Local Church Discussions: do any of you have access to this work which LSM wanted so very much to bury forever?
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Old 04-19-2011, 06:01 AM   #2
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Jim Moran Dies, Local Church Seizes Websites (28 June 2003)

In January of this year (2003), Jim Moran, director of Light Of Truth Ministries, probably the largest countercult ministry focused on the "Local Church", passed away, reportedly of a massive heart attack. This event effectively ended the work of Light Of Truth Ministries.
Several months later, in April, the "Local Church", represented by The Church In Fullerton, purchased ownership of Mr. Moran's research material, websites and copyrights from his estate. Since then, The Church In Fullerton has been exercising its ownership of those copyrights by demanding the removal of all Mr. Moran's works from distribution. As another consequence of these events, Internet addresses previously owned by Jim Moran or Light Of Truth Ministries, including the Light Of Truth Ministries home page located at http://www.ltm.org and http://www.thelocalchurch.org, are now owned and controlled by the "Local Church" movement. Therefore, visitors should note that material posted at those sites now are not likely to reflect Mr. Moran's original intent.
Anton Hein of The Apologetics Index has been encouraging readers to download copies of Mr. Moran's original site as cached by Google. The Church In Fullerton claims that these actions violate its copyright.

Jim Moran's Writings Removed (28 June 2003)

On June 17, 2003, Daniel Azuma, editor of the "Local Church" Information Site, received an email from representatives of The Church In Fullerton, current owners of the copyrights of the works of the late Jim Moran. The Church In Fullerton is part of the "Local Church" movement. They demanded that all Jim Moran's writings and compilations currently published on this web site be removed. The text of this letter is included below.

Dear Mr. Azuma:

We are writing to you on behalf of The Church in Fullerton to inform you of apparent copyright infringement found on your web site: http://dazuma.freeshell.org/lcinfo.
As you may know, in April of this year representatives of The Church in Fullerton contacted the executor of Mr. Moran's estate and purchased all of Mr. Moran's websites, articles, publications, postings, copyrights, trade names, trademarks and correspondence concerning the Local Church that were authored, created, assembled, collected or arranged by Mr. Moran ("the Works"). Because you currently have posted on your website numerous articles and sound files included in the Works, we are writing to inform you that any and all previous permissions or licenses to utilize and distribute the Works have been revoked (see also http://www.ltm.org/info.html). Therefore, as the new owner with the exclusive right to distribute the Works, we request that you remove these materials from your website.
Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. If you have any questions you can reach us at the above address or by email at: djsady@aol.com.

Respectfully,
Daniel E. Towle
Daniel J. Sady
For The Church in Fullerton Corporation



The editor concured that The Church In Fullerton was within their legal rights to ask for the removal of material copyrighted by Mr. Moran, and has complied with the request. Writings authored by Jim Moran remain on file with the editor but are no longer available for viewing on this site. Writings not authored by Jim Moran have not been affected.

In a return email to The Church In Fullerton, Azuma wrote:

Mr. Moran's work has been posted on my web site for many years, and it saddens me to learn that the new owners of his property do not share his desire to make it freely available to the public so that discerning individuals may make more informed decisions concerning both Mr. Moran's claims and those of the movement he critiques.

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Question to all Posters on Local Church Discussions: do any of you have access to this work which LSM wanted so very much to bury forever?
Gee, sounds like a question that LC lawyers would ask.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:03 AM   #3
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Question to all Posters on Local Church Discussions: do any of you have access to this work which LSM wanted so very much to bury forever?
I did.

I collected them probably 10 years ago, and printed them all out. I had little respect for the guy. He was a Moody grad who couldn't find work, and subsequently was sponsored by a wealthy sister in Texas who hated the LC's because it "stole" one or more of her family. Moran then came "anonymously" (the church learned what he was doing) to the church in Chicago for a year or two for his "studies," which were anything but objective or scholarly.

I found his writings of little use, but of course at the time I read them, I was still fairly devoted to the program. Moran's death was very ugly which fueled LC speculation that it was God's "judgment." Moran appeared far more "professional" on his website than he did in person. Nothing could change my opinion about WL until I read the eye-witness accounts of JI, BM, and others.

I sent all my copies to awareness, who now has them, I think. It was about an inch thick, double-sided, letter size. He had talked about scanning them, but I don't know if he has made any progress on this. LSM owns the rights to them, whatever that means. If I own a book, and the publisher gets sold, can they recall all the books?

Anyways brother NFNL, you are welcome to pursue them, but I doubt they will benefit you or your family. Methinks you already have enough information.
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