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Old 09-17-2011, 04:47 PM   #1
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Question Quasi-Supernatural Testimony

I wrote up my testimony last year and distributed to people I knew. In one part I describe some things that were happening around me which were quite phenomenal to me. I have always wondered exactly what was going on there, and have some specific questions for you to ponder at the end. This took place about a week after I had a miraculous salvation experience complete with physical and mental healing, not to mention and incredible sense of the Lord and His anointing. Here's the excerpt (sorry if the formatting is bad):

Then came the day I have long regretted. I still hadn’t found any Christians I really wanted to be
with (but admittedly, hadn’t looked a whole lot). I was hanging out with a friend, John Noll, who
decided we should go to another friend’s house in the early afternoon. There were a few people
at this house, including some girls I had interest in, and a pretty one was noticing me. A joint
was lit up and passed around. At first I refused. Still being in a state of spiritual newness and
possessing wisdom beyond myself, it seemed as if I could look right into people’s soul, including
this girl’s. So against what I knew to be true, I took a hit on that joint. Big mistake . . .


Now you might consider that up until this point, the things that occurred were pretty subjective
and inward. But this is where things turned outwardly supernatural and were fearfully witnessed
by others. That day, as I remember, the sky was pretty fair and sunny, but suddenly got quite
dark around us as we were smoking that joint. People in the room became somewhat edgy and
were looking at me as if they knew something was about to happen. As the joint came around
the room again, I took another hit of it, and then the loudest noise imaginable occurred. There
had been no hint of thunder in the air, but suddenly a flash of lightning hit – we saw the flash
and heard the earth-shattering bang at the same time. The room got deadly quiet, and then
everyone exclaimed, “Wow!” We were all completely awestruck. I knew that something of
profound spiritual significance was going on, and I knew I shouldn’t take another hit on that joint,

but I did.

Immediately there was another lighting flash and a bang, and this was somehow even

louder and brighter than the first. The people in the room were really freaked out now. Why I

did it, I still do not know, but I took still another hit off that joint. It couldn’t be possible that
anything could be louder than the last lightning blast, but when the third one hit, it totally
dispelled that notion. There was no use in me denying it . . . those lightning blasts occurred
because of my actions. (Note: These three lightning blasts were the only ones that afternoon.)
As I sat there, dumbfounded at what I had just done, and what was happening outside,
suddenly all the “old feelings” came back to me in that instant. These were all the feelings that
left me when I had been miraculously healed a few days before. My head became plugged up,
and I felt weighted down and old. My body ached and the inexplicable sweetness in the air was
gone. But worst of all perhaps, the sense of being able to intimately communicate with God




seemed to be completely gone.


I was really dejected over what I had just done, and left the house with John. As we were

walking, John brought up something we had only mused about before, and that was regarding
going to California. This time he was really serious about it. I said, “Sure, let’s go, there’s
nothing for me here.” At that moment we reached a street corner when something else
supernatural occurred. As we were standing on the corner I saw John being pushed backward
on his one shoulder, as if someone were physically shoving him hard. This almost knocked him
off his feet. He cried out, “What the . . .!” I inquired about what had happened. He exclaimed,
“It’s as if someone pushed my shoulder!” I, being a little freaked out by this (as if all the other
things that day hadn’t scared me enough), said, “Oh no. Don’t say that!” Just then it happened
again. This was a movement that couldn’t be faked – John felt it and we both saw it. Being
really scared, we both exclaimed, “Let’s get out of here!” and went to make plans for going to




California.


Thanks for reading!

Questions: What was the lightning and thunder - God or the enemy? And what was the invisible push on my friend's shoulder? I've gone back and forth on these for years.
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Old 09-18-2011, 06:01 AM   #2
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What a rivetting testimony !

Surely El Shaddai wanted your undivided attention and was warning you of impeding danger ! You belonged to HIM now and yet you were treading in dangerous territory, the enemy's camp where you could have easily been devoured by the master deceiver, the thief who was not only trying to snatch you out of the Father's hand, but was out to steal kill and destroy you and your testimony.

It's also possible, you think that your friend was not a good influence on you & God pushed him back w/the message "HEY! Leave my son alone! He's MINE !"
The Scriptures are filled w/countless accounts of God speaking or sending messages through Thunder and Lightning.

Go to Biblegateway.com and key in thunder and/or lightning. It will link you to all the scriptures pertaining to Thunder and Lightning.

From what I have read in the scriptures, Thunder and lightning is ALWAYS from God...not the enemy. There is even lightning and thunder in heaven ! Here are 2 scriptures for you:

Isaiah 29:6 says
you will be visited by the LORD of Hosts
with thunder and with earthquake and great noise,
with Whirlwind and Storm and the flame of a devouring fire.

Revelation 4:5
And out of the Throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the Throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

P.S.S. on a side note, regarding the Seven Spirits of God, there are a few interpretations to what they are:

1) the 7 Spirits are symbolic of the Perfect and Complete Holy Spirit

2) angelic beings, Seraphim and Cherubim

3) Isaiah 11:2 describes 7 attributes of the Holy Spirit:
(1) Spirit of the LORD,
(2) Spirit of wisdom,
(3) Spirit of understanding,
(4) Spirit of counsel,
(5) Spirit of power,
(6) Spirit of knowledge,
(7) Spirit of the fear of the Lord.

From http://www.gotquestions.org/seven-spirits-God.html

Great Post STG ! Thanks for sharing !

Carol
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Old 09-18-2011, 06:19 AM   #3
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Great Post ZNP ! Thanks for sharing !

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OOPS !!! my bad ! I think I had read one of your posts and had you on my mind ZNP !
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What a rivetting testimony !

Surely El Shaddai wanted your undivided attention and was warning you of impeding danger ! You belonged to HIM now and yet you were treading in dangerous territory, the enemy's camp where you could have easily been devoured by the master deceiver, the thief who was not only trying to snatch you out of the Father's hand, but was out to steal kill and destroy you and your testimony.

It's also possible, you think that your friend was not a good influence on you & God pushed him back w/the message "HEY! Leave my son alone! He's MINE !"
The Scriptures are filled w/countless accounts of God speaking or sending messages through Thunder and Lightning.

Go to Biblegateway.com and key in thunder and/or lightning. It will link you to all the scriptures pertaining to Thunder and Lightning.

From what I have read in the scriptures, Thunder and lightning is ALWAYS from God...not the enemy. There is even lightning and thunder in heaven ! Here are 2 scriptures for you:

Isaiah 29:6 says
you will be visited by the LORD of Hosts
with thunder and with earthquake and great noise,
with Whirlwind and Storm and the flame of a devouring fire.

Revelation 4:5
And out of the Throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the Throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

P.S.S. on a side note, regarding the Seven Spirits of God, there are a few interpretations to what they are:

1) the 7 Spirits are symbolic of the Perfect and Complete Holy Spirit

2) angelic beings, Seraphim and Cherubim

3) Isaiah 11:2 describes 7 attributes of the Holy Spirit:
(1) Spirit of the LORD,
(2) Spirit of wisdom,
(3) Spirit of understanding,
(4) Spirit of counsel,
(5) Spirit of power,
(6) Spirit of knowledge,
(7) Spirit of the fear of the Lord.

From http://www.gotquestions.org/seven-spirits-God.html

Great Post STG ! Thanks for sharing !

Carol
No, thank you for sharing your insights! This is a very good witness to me. And why would the enemy want to warn me? He would be completely happy to let me stumble into his snare, without any warning whatsoever!

As I think I stated in the testimony, those were absolutely the loudest things I have heard before or since, and each blast was progressively a little louder than the first. Also interesting is that there were three of them, don't you think? I have often thought of Peter and the rooster crowing three times, because that is really what it was like. Each time I denied Him, thinking there was something to be gained by it. What a bitter realization!

And I certainly have had similar thoughts regarding my friend being shoved away. He certainly represent my old life. It is interesting that he was the one that had the idea to go to California. However, in in St. Louis (we started from NE Ohio) he turned back as he was homesick. I picked up a ride (hitchhiking was big back then) soon after that, which took me all the way to Berkeley. After getting several divinely influenced directions to the nearest restroom (as I really had to go badly), I wound-up at the meeting place for the church in Berkeley. I quickly realized God had been totally faithful to me, in that I had prayed this earnest prayer, "God, you have to take me to a place where others love you the way I do." He took me 2,500 miles across the US in about 10 days, to place me with seeking ones in Berkeley. This still amazes me (and why He did it like He did), and I am often aware that He is still fulfilling that prayer of mine today!

Thanks again!
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As I think I stated in the testimony, those were absolutely the loudest things I have heard before or since, and each blast was progressively a little louder than the first. Also interesting is that there were three of them, don't you think? Thanks again!
Oh You are welcome !!

Ah yes ! 3 roaring peals of thunder !

The Father, Son and the Holy Ghost.. guided you to the coast !...the day the music died...(don't know why this song suddenly came to me...

Certainly the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob got your undivided attention!

Great, GREAT testimony !!!!!
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If you guys think it would be edifying, I would post the rest of this testimony . . .
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If you guys think it would be edifying, I would post the rest of this testimony . . .
Man up and get a backbone. When you speak, speak as the oracles of God, not limply. Do not fear opposition, that is a good sign. Fear apathy. If you don't have the peace, then heed the Lord, otherwise, be bold brother!
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