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Old 04-15-2009, 02:23 PM   #1
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Default AFaithfulWitness.Org - Warning re: Dong Yu Lan

http://afaithfulwitness.org/

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"This site contains the letter of warning issued by the co-workers in the Lord's recovery and related materials concerning the teachings and practices promoted by Brother Dong Yu Lan and his co-workers. The initial rollout of this site makes available the following categories of material:
This Web site is still under development and will be revised and supplemented with additional material as time allows. We present the materials on this site to the saints in the Lord's recovery that they may realize the seriousness of the deviations in and turn away from Brother Dong's work and those who promote it. May the Lord have mercy on us all that we would take the way of practicing the oneness and the one accord to be preserved in His unique recovery for the building up of the Body of Christ in preparation for His soon return.
—Bill Buntain, Dan Sady, Dan Towle"

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Old 04-15-2009, 02:48 PM   #2
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Here we go again.

Now the crazies in Anaheim are quarantining basically the entire continent of South America!

At the rate these guys ex-communicate whole churches and regions, pretty soon they'll be left with just a few old men in dark suits and godman socks, huddled together over there at the La Palma headquarters with their fading copies of the One Publication...very sad.

In the meantime you can look for LSM "secret" operatives to be popping up all over South America, "training" the few remaining LSM/Lee loyalist on how to stir up trouble and sue the local saints for the land/meeting halls. I bet that Minoru Chen (Blended brother/chief LC "agent provocateur") has already booked his tickets for Brazil as I write this post
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Old 04-15-2009, 05:02 PM   #3
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It seems to me that there is a double standard at work here. Without doing extensive research here are two examples. I am sure there are more.

Example 1.

Bro Dong Yu Lan
In his International Conference at Estancia Árvore da Vida in February 2005, Brother Dong said that when Matthew, Mark, and Luke wrote their Gospels, they were not in the Spirit. (Pg 4 of coworkers' letter)

Bro Lee's speaking
James’ epistle is “surely not the words of God.”
W. Lee, Life-study of James, p. 131
Concerning many things, “James’ word…may be godly, but it is not God’s word.”
W. Lee, Life-study of James, Message 14, p. 131

The words may be different but I understand both to say that this is man's word, not God's. That is, a double standard is being applied by the authors of this letter.

Example 2

Bro Dong Yu Lan
Brother Dong claims to have received a vision of Revelation 12 based on the shape of the continents on a world map. This vision has been widely promoted by Brother Dong and his co-workers. Its effect is to exalt the role of Brother Dong s work. For example, Brother Dong's interpretation of Revelation 12 gives South America a central role in God s move both now and in the end times. He teaches that South America will be the wilderness where God's people will find refuge during the great tribulation. Based on the world map, Brother Dong teaches that the shape of the combined continents of Europe and Asia resemble a dragon and that the outline of Africa resembles a fetus, which he claims indicates that Africa has a particular relationship to the producing of the man-child in Revelation 12. Based on this he claims that South America has a special commission to spread Brother Dong's teaching and work to Africa. On maps created to depict this teaching, South America is portrayed as a cluster of grapes, the emblem of Brother Dong's publishing enterprise, indicating that his ministry will be the source of food for the entire earth.
(Pg 6 of coworkers' letter)

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I clearly remember bro Lee teaching that the American eagle is an indication that the US continent may well be the wilderness during the Great Tribulation based on the reference of flying on eagles wings (Rev 12:14). If memory serves me correctly there was the further implication that the local churches need to be raised up so that they can nourish the ones that flee to the wilderness.

(Sorry I have no time right now to locate the exact quote.)

While I do prefer the second speculation, both are just that, speculation. It seems to me that a blatant double standard is in play when one is rebuked for his speculation and its implications while the other's speculation are regarded as the Oracle of God's speaking.

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Old 04-15-2009, 05:13 PM   #4
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Example 1...
Bro Lee's speaking
James’ epistle is “surely not the words of God.”
W. Lee, Life-study of James, p. 131

The words may be different but I understand both to say that this is man's word, not God's. That is, a double standard is being applied by the authors of this letter.

Example 2
...I clearly remember bro Lee teaching that the American eagle is an indication that the US continent may well be the wilderness during the Great Tribulation based on the reference of flying on eagles wings (Rev 12:14). If memory serves me correctly there was the further implication that the local churches need to be raised up so that they can nourish the ones that flee to the wilderness.
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You must be a Local Church oldie but goodie just like me

These two examples were the EXACT ones that popped into my head as soon as I skimmed through the "warning" letter. I think it was the Revelation training in which Witness Lee likened the Pacific and Atlantic oceans as the "wings of the eagle" and then America being the body.

It's pretty blatant hypocrisy and double-standard to be sure. Hopefully there are a number of current LC members who lurk around this forum and will have the guts to finally challenge this nonsense.


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Old 04-15-2009, 05:37 PM   #5
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Does anyone know about Dong Yu and what he is up to in South America and Africa?

From just what I've seen here on this thread I'm getting the impression that he probably is causing damage to the Body of Christ. Much like a particular minister back in the 70s/80s/90s. I.E. When you come down to it is he just a miniature Witness Lee?
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:49 PM   #6
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Does anyone know about Dong Yu and what he is up to in South America and Africa?

From just what I've seen here on this thread I'm getting the impression that he probably is causing damage to the Body of Christ. Much like a particular minister back in the 70s/80s/90s. I.E. When you come down to it is he just a miniature Witness Lee?
IDon'tKnow,

The point here is not about the teachings of either minister, Dong Yu Lan or Witness Lee, but rather the unabashed hypocrisy and double-standard of LSM/LC/DCP.

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Old 04-15-2009, 09:03 PM   #7
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The point here is not about the teachings of either minister, Dong Yu Lan or Witness Lee, but rather the unabashed hypocrisy and double-standard of LSM/LC/DCP.

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In the training their is a lesson which talks about when a worker for the Lord receives a steady income from an organization that this is the teaching of Balaam and it was pointed out how this caused problems in Christianity with pastors, and even with a situation in the Midwest, The brother who taught this to me had probably received support from the church for the last 20 years. The quote from Witness Lee from the 70s rebellion where he stated that sending brother's out to different localities was hierarchy is oft quoted, I wouldn't be shocked if Francis Ball at one point quoted this when he was in Rosemead. Stories about Witness Lee and how he was "just a little brother" are also widespread completely ignoring his blatant bid for papal status in the 80s.

What's my point? The LSM/LC/DCP has been well trained over the decades to blatantly ignore there own hypocrisy. That said they will immediately notice yours if they begin to percieve that you're defending Dong Yu Lan while he attempts to build up his own personal kingdom even while they ignore the fact that his personal kingdom bears a striking resemblance to the personal kingdom they are currently dwelling in.

That said I would be quite interested in knowing what Dong is actually up to. How much of what LSM/DCP speaks of him actually true? how much is propanganda? Personally I'm wondering whether or not the reason why the BBs can get these quarantines through is simply because to an extent what they speak is true. The brother's in question probably are quite dangerous and probably haven't been fully dealt with by the Lord. That said at the same time the brothers and sisters have been conditioned to completely ignore the fact that the same signs of this which can be seen in these brothers can be seen in Witness Lee and the LSM, and could quite possibly be considered as being a fruit of Witness Lee and the LSM.

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Old 04-15-2009, 10:22 PM   #8
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sounds like both the blendeds and dong yu are off their rockers!

And perhaps the blendeds are getting a taste of their own medicine here...I mean, accusing dong of "errant teaching"....I had to laugh at that one.

andpeter,

It's true that Lee taught the same thing as Dong but put a north american bias on it instead of a south american bias concerning eschatology and the LC...here is a link to another thread containing the rather disturbing quotes from Lee on this matter:

http://www.thebereans.net/forum2/showthread.php?t=43345

It's interesting...Lee's crazy teachings are causing division. What do they expect? Dong seems to just be taking the same approach to scripture as Lee!
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Old 04-16-2009, 06:11 AM   #9
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It's true that Lee taught the same thing as Dong but put a north american bias on it instead of a south american bias concerning eschatology and the LC...here is a link to another thread containing the rather disturbing quotes from Lee on this matter:

http://www.thebereans.net/forum2/showthread.php?t=43345

It's interesting...Lee's crazy teachings are causing division. What do they expect? Dong seems to just be taking the same approach to scripture as Lee!
Thanks cityonahill,

I must have been present to hear the speaking that is quoted in the link. It is good to see that my memory banks can still be relied upon.

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Old 04-16-2009, 06:55 AM   #10
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What's my point? The LSM/LC/DCP has been well trained over the decades to blatantly ignore there own hypocrisy. That said they will immediately notice yours if they begin to perceive that you're defending Dong Yu Lan while he attempts to build up his own personal kingdom even while they ignore the fact that his personal kingdom bears a striking resemblance to the personal kingdom they are currently dwelling in. That said I would be quite interested in knowing what Dong is actually up to. How much of what LSM/DCP speaks of him actually true?
IDK, I understand your question, and I had the same one several years ago concerning the quarantine of Titus Chu in the GLA.

The short answer is this -- much of what LSM and DCP is saying about the intentions of these two ministers is true. Both have aspirations to spread their ministry and influences around the globe, especially inside the "LC globe." LSM easily recognizes this simply because they are "guilty" of the same thing. Both DYL and TC view the BB's as childish wannabee's.

It was obvious that TC had the intention of assuming WL's position as leader. He traveled the world creating mini-insurrections among the locals. His quarantine and that of DYL had nothing to do with "teaching differently." They both were quarantined due to rivalry, and the perceived loss of power in Anaheim. Had either of them just "stayed home" and limited their ministry to the positive things of the truth in their own regions, there would have been no quarantines. But ... of course ... all "their churches" and all "their saints" would "belong" to LSM.

IDK, your comments about LSM hypocrisy are correct. Yesterday, after checking out this new website, I wrote a post comparing the hypocrisy of the Pharisees to LSM double standards. I never posted it because I was uncomfortable with the tone of the post.
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I just came across this verse while looking for another one. Read it slowly..especially the first part..the part I highlighted:

Matthew 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Seems to me a lot of these great 'oracles' might be in for a rude awakening. They broke a lot 'laws', mainly the Law of LIFE and the law of LOVE and taught a lot.
Here's the scripture I was looking for when I found Matthew 5:19. It is
Hebrews 8:11

And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

Also, Remember the hymn?
"On Christ the Solid Rock I stand. All other ground is sinking sand. All other ground is sinking sand.

Looks to me all we need is to STAND on GOD'S Word. If we trust in HIM, the Holy Spirit will enlighten as we seek the understanding through prayer, study, fellowship then TEACH the Word without a person's own interpretation. Let the Word of God enlighten us, teach us and Feed us.
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It was obvious that TC had the intention of assuming WL's position as leader. He traveled the world creating mini-insurrections among the locals. His quarantine and that of DYL had nothing to do with "teaching differently." They both were quarantined due to rivalry, and the perceived loss of power in Anaheim. Had either of them just "stayed home" and limited their ministry to the positive things of the truth in their own regions, there would have been no quarantines. But ... of course ... all "their churches" and all "their saints" would "belong" to LSM.
What I don't understand is the work of Titus Chu and Dong Yu Lan has been going on for decades. Why the wait until the 21st century?

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What I don't understand is the work of Titus Chu and Dong Yu Lan has been going on for decades. Why the wait until the 21st century?

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Both were subservient to WL. Titus Chu and Dong Yu Lan may have submitted to WL, but they obviously have no intention of submitting to the BB's.

Perhaps there is more of Chinese culture here, than we care to admit. Notice how the 70's and 80's "rebellions" were not carried out by Chinese "rebels." In fact, as far as I know, very few Chinese participated. (John So was a Philipino, German, American.)
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I clearly remember bro Lee teaching that the American eagle is an indication that the US continent may well be the wilderness during the Great Tribulation based on the reference of flying on eagles wings (Rev 12:14). If memory serves me correctly there was the further implication that the local churches need to be raised up so that they can nourish the ones that flee to the wilderness.

(Sorry I have no time right now to locate the exact quote.)
Here's a quote of Lance Lambert from July 2007 West Coast Conference available in the book CONFORMED TO THE IMAGE OF HIS SON, page 15

"When God is bringing judgment, He always begins gently, and He waits. Is there a response? If there is none, there are more severe judgments. Then He waits. Is there a response? If none, they are more severe, until in the end, it becomes catastrophic. I believe the Lord will touch the affluent economy of the United States, and it will come suddenly. You and I need to be prepared."

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Both were subservient to WL. Titus Chu and Dong Yu Lan may have submitted to WL, but they obviously have no intention of submitting to the BB's.
Titus and Dong have had a work just as Bill Freeman had a work. Bill left in the 1980's, but Titus and Dong continued with their work within the Recovery long after Witness Lee was taken by the Lord.
I know none of these brothers. How were Titus and Dong able to continue their work within the Recovery after the word given at the 86' Elders Training (?), whereas Bill walked away?

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Isn't everyone relieved that we have LSM to enforce orthodoxy on everyone on the planet? Otherwise, without them, God's purpose and plan on earth would come to screeching halt, and we'd all become a bunch of Moabites or Edomites or Mormons or something like that.

We can all sleep easier knowing they are constructing these incredibly boring and ponderous websites filled with labyrinthian explanations of the orthodox, since they are the only people on earth with any clue as to what's going on.

You see, most apologists stop at enforcing the faith. But these sophisticated and brilliant rightly cut brothers can discern the finest deviation from the straightly cut Word. Yes, and if you are just a thorn in their side, they can concoct a complex condemnation of you that would make a Byzantinian artist blush and which sounds just like the real thing. This is how they deal with dissentering oneses, and you don't want to be one of those oneses.

Thank you, LSM. Please continue to tell us what we should think. You know we are too clueless to decide for ourselves. Also, if I get off the rightly cut faithful word and witness path, don't hesitate to quarantine me, because if you think I need it I probably do, but I wouldn't know it because all I know is what the One Publication tells me to know and anything else is not life.

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Amen, CountMeWorthy, On Christ the solid Rock we stand. All other ground is sinking sand.
I am very distressed to read about this latest excommunication. What a sorry state the LC is in. I must admit I feel like the unhappy child of a divorced couple. However, our lovely Bridegroom will soon appear and all our tears will be wiped away
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[COLOR=Navy]Here we go again.

Now the crazies in Anaheim are quarantining basically the entire continent of South America!
It is worse than that. Here in the u.s. we have various expatriate brazialian believer communities which have blended in with the american brethren. Now they are getting wrenched apart. People who worshipped and testified side by side are now torn asunder. Camps form, walls spring up. Closed circles gather, with negative assessments of "them"...

It's really too sad for words.
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I would be quite interested in knowing what Dong is actually up to. How much of what LSM/DCP speaks of him actually true? how much is propanganda? Personally I'm wondering whether or not the reason why the BBs can get these quarantines through is simply because to an extent what they speak is true. The brother's in question probably are quite dangerous and probably haven't been fully dealt with by the Lord.
Perhaps they are dangerous. My impression from my few brazilian contacts is that they are somewhat unbalanced and misled, but so what? Most christians are not yet completely unleavened, so let's not toss stones at each other, eh?

What intrigues me about Dong is that as many of you know I was beating a drum for the "organic ministry of John" for some time, and still harbor leanings in that regard. My interpretation of John's ministry is that it's quite opposed to centralized control with concomitant bureacratization; therefore if someone "in authority" amongst the christian fellowships speaks about being organic, that is potentially quite fresh. Even (gasp) subversive! I can hope, anyway.
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Where is brother Dong's son David these days? How does he feel about LSM and his father's excommunication?
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I read a report on this website from David Franco, who left the situation in Sao Paulo. It is eerie. It is accusing Dong et all of deviation, yet it seems to be describing a carbon copy of the LSM model.

Franco quotes Peter Dong: "Brother Dong is the commissioned one. We have to obey him. It doesn't matter if he's right or wrong. We only have to obey."

Franco, again: "It became almost compulsory for the saints to purchase The Daily Food. The saints were expected to purchase it for every family member. Often the saints bought the book just to avoid problems...anytime a brother was going to share a message it had to be from the Daily Food...if you did not you were considered 'rebellious against the Apostle' ."

Again: "One of brother Dong's co-workers said to us, 'We are 100% one with brother Dong. Whatever he says, I agree!' They said for me to be a co-worker or an elder, if I was not 100% for brother Dong it was best for me to resign. These same conditions were imposed on many other brothers serving in Brazil."

Man, talk about the pot calling the kettle black! I am really weirded out that LSM can print this stuff with a straight face. I mean, doesn't this sound even a little like what we have been talking about regarding Lee & the BB's MO with "Living Stream Ministry"? And yet here LSM apologists are printing this about someone else, insinuating how horrible it is. There is more in this letter: deposing of elders who are not loyal to Dong, Dong et al's paranoia about people who are 'rebellious', not absolute for the cause, creating dissension, etc. etc.

It is just too weird for words. I just can hardly believe that these "afaithfulwitness" people can't see how massively illogical it is to accuse someone who is blatantly copying your MO, pretty much down to the exact phraseology, of being deviant. I am rarely at a loss for words, but I think I'm really stumped here. As YP would say, "Wow."
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My guess would be that in the minds of those with LSM, it's okay when brother Lee said it because he was a perfect GodMan who always took the Lord's way, thus following him is the same as following God. Whereas with Dong, well he's just egotistical.

I.E. it's okay when we do it because we're right, it's not okay when they do it because they are wrong.
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It is just too weird for words. I just can hardly believe that these "afaithfulwitness" people can't see how massively illogical it is to warn someone who is blatantly copying your MO of being deviant. I am rarely at a loss for words, but I think I'm really stumped here.
On further reflection, maybe I'm just going to giggle. I mean, it's really just too silly. It's incredibly silly. It's indescribably silly. Djohnson was right: these are just little children playing in the sandbox. I can't believe they don't realize how incredibly silly it looks to sternly warn someone else for doing exactly what you yourself have done for lo these many years.

Any pretension that these people are anything other than comical is, for me, just stripped away. I mean, even Toto the dog, having pulled back the curtain on the mighty wizard, has got to grin a little bit here. How can you not smile?

I recognize that many were, and are, injured, that the testimony of Jesus has been also, but when I reflect on the list of complaints in brother Franco's letter it's just too farcical. Maybe we can do a "Gilbert and Sullivan" musical and set these accusations to song. It's just too precious, it really is.
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Blended one: "Next, we are going to hear -- oh, the gall! The unmitigated gall!-- that brother Dong is saying he's a God-Man! Oh, how can we possibly -- "

Loyal one: "But, dear brother Blended, haven't we also been saying this now, for -- "

Blended: "Hush, child, I'm just getting started! You're interrupting my train of thought... Oh, of all the rash, presumptuous, daring, self-willed..."
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:44 AM   #25
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My guess would be that in the minds of those with LSM, it's okay when brother Lee said it because he was a perfect GodMan who always took the Lord's way, thus following him is the same as following God. Whereas with Dong, well he's just egotistical.

I.E. it's okay when we do it because we're right, it's not okay when they do it because they are wrong.
Here's another example from brother Franco's testimony:

"At that moment I realized that the ground of the church in Sao Paulo had been changed by them because they made absolute submission to one person - the "Apostle" - a requirement for oneness. I told them I could not do this regarding anyone but the Lord Himself...from that time I could no longer break bread in the church in Sao Paulo because its ground had changed..."

I am stumped that these folks can put this out without at least squirming somewhat. Have all their nerve endings been so cauterized, that they don't at least tingle a little bit, reading these words? Don't they see the similarity, nearly the exactitude, of the 'Dong' way and the 'Lee' way? Or is it really just, "When we do it it's good and acceptable, and when they do it, it's just plain old wrong."

--But why, Daddy, why?
--Hush, little child, go back to sleep.

I pray that God would wake up the eyes of all our hearts to see as He sees i.e. reality, and not as we see, which is apparently cobwebs and vapors. Surely we don't see very well. If I am anything like these folks I don't see very well either. Since I spent several years happily drinking at their fountain, I suppose it would have been easy for me, at one point, to read warnings such as this and cluck my tongue disapprovingly and go right back about my LSM- directed business, oblivious to the glaring coincidence.

Well, I am oblivious no longer. If the editors of this stuff, Dan Towle and company, can let this slip into the public view without massive remanding to resolve the glaring contradictions, then it seems that the pot is at full boil.
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Here's another example from brother Franco's testimony:

"At that moment I realized that the ground of the church in Sao Paulo had been changed by them because they made absolute submission to one person - the "Apostle" - a requirement for oneness. I told them I could not do this regarding anyone but the Lord Himself...from that time I could no longer break bread in the church in Sao Paulo because its ground had changed..."
This is ironically humerous. If an entire local church takes this way, they're considered a rebel church. The double-standards continue.

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Here's a Letter from the LSM BB's outlining the next step in their strategy against Br. Dong Yu-Lan in Brazil
It was posted on www.LastAdam.com
There's a second letter immediately after this one giving details, costs etc


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Concerning the Lord's Move in South America and 'Recovered to the Bible-Brazil'

April 24, 2009

To the saints and churches in the Lord's recovery,

We are writing to encourage your participation in the Lord's present move in His recovery in all of South America. We hope that all the saints will take this as a most serious and joyful opportunity and do their best to cooperate as one man for the Lord's interest in this part of the earth.

Brother Lee told us that there are three ways to participate in the Lord's move-by prayer, by giving and by going. For this very strategic move of the Lord in an area over which there has been and still is much spiritual warfare (see the co-workers' letter of fellowship and warning dated April 4, 2009, which is posted at www.afaithfulwitness.org), our intensified and persevering individual and corporate prayer during this time is crucial (Eph. 6:10). Concerning the Lord's Move in South America: We feel a particular burden that the saints and churches in South America could receive the supply of life and truth to be strengthened and recovered out of every influence of deviation, division, and isolation back into the one New Testament teaching and fellowship that is the rightful inheritance of all the local churches throughout the earth (Acts 2:42; 1 John 1:3). In such a supply of life and truth those who have been affected by these things can receive light to properly understand the situation and be recovered.

Over the past several years many saints and churches throughout South America have been revived and have returned to the New Testament ministry. These saints have been yearning for more fellowship in the Body and have been petitioning the co-workers to bring the New Testament ministry to their places. Although the co-workers have already been visiting many places in South America, since the co-workers' letter of April 4, the cry for visitation has increased. In response to the Lord's intensified move in Brazil, beginning in May co- workers will be traveling to many localities throughout that country to shepherd the saints and churches and to hold conferences to supply them with the Lord's up-to-date speaking in His recovery. Such a move of the Lord throughout South America can be expected to require a sustained burden of prayer, giving, and going over the next few years.

Recovered to the Bible-Brazil: Due to the recent publication of the Portuguese Recovery Version as well as the new and critical opening among the saints and churches in Brazil, we are burdened to 'rise up and take action' by sending small teams of saints to over 135 localities throughout Brazil. Together with the local saints these teams will dive into the present ministry, enjoy the common fellowship of the Body, and co-labor to spread the use and appreciation of the Recovery Version among the saints, the churches, and many new ones in Brazil. We believe that the going of the saints and their time with the loving seekers in Brazil will also do much to advance the Lord's interest, to strengthen and encourage these saints, and to restore a healthy circulation in the Body. Therefore, we are asking that saints from all over the earth would rise up to pray, give, and volunteer to go in one blended coordination to Brazil this July and August to carry out Recovered to the Bible-Brazil. A separate information letter and application form with this letter will give the details of the times, places, and qualifications to go.

Brother Witness Lee spoke often of using the Recovery Version of the New Testament for both preaching the complete gospel and building up the saints in the truth so that they may grow in life unto the building up of the Body of Christ:

The Lord has commissioned us with His recovery, and He has surely opened up the New Testament to reveal many dear and precious truths to us. What the Lord needs is for thousands of His dear saints who love Him, who live to Him, and who know nothing but His recovery to take one way. Regardless of whether the saints are from Brazil, Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, England, Thailand, Indonesia, or the United States, we all bear the same burden, take the same way, and spread the same truths. We dispense the truths embodied in the 'gold bar,' the Recovery Version. We have no other merchandise! If we would be like this, the entire earth will be taken! (Witness Lee, Elders' Training, Book 8: The Life-Pulse of the Lord's Present Move, 1986, p. 114)

Brother Lee also spoke repeatedly of the openness and need in Central and South America, including Brazil:

Today Central and South America are completely open to the Lord's recovery. Even if we send up to a thousand full-time workers, still they would not be enough to meet the need of these places. (A Blessed Human Life, p. 63)

In addition to the intensified prayers of the Body and the going of many saints in coordination, there is the opportunity to participate in this move of the Lord by giving. There will be numerous and significant expenses involved with carrying out such a move in the Body which covers an entire continent. Immediate expenses include: costs of transportation, office space, conference and seminar facilities, food and lodging, translators, and literature. Donations for the Lord's move in South America, including for Recovered to the Bible- Brazil and other efforts, should be sent to:

The Church in Fullerton (South America account)
2411 West La Palma Avenue
Suite 223
Anaheim, CA 92831.

Or, for wire transfer: routing #: 026009593; Swift code (international): BOFAUS3N; account # 2163640789.

Let us all pray in one accord for:
1. The responsive 'Amen!' in all the saints throughout Brazil and all of South America to the co-workers' letter of fellowship and warning.
2. The responsive 'Amen' in prayer, giving, and going from throughout the recovery.
3. All the planning, preparation, and coordination required for the conferences, visitation, and Recovered to the Bible-Brazil.

On behalf of the co-workers,

Minoru Chen
Gary Kaiser
Albert Lim
Victor Molina
Benson Phillips
Sherman Robertson
Dan Towle
Andrew Yu


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