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Old 12-27-2023, 02:42 AM   #1
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Several letters were issued by the N. American co-workers back in 2021 warning about some kind of trouble in OKC. At that time those documents seemed to be peculiar & a little cryptic. Looking back now, those seem to have been related to this recent OKC Civil Court Opinion.

Those documents were formerly accessible on shepherdingwords.com but now they are missing from the site.

Link to letter #1: https://blendedbody.com/4LCD/Lettert...01-14-2021.pdf

Link to letter #2: https://blendedbody.com/4LCD/Followu...01-14-2021.pdf

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Old 12-27-2023, 08:20 AM   #2
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Several letters were issued by the N. American co-workers back in 2021 warning about some kind of trouble in OKC. At that time those documents seemed to be peculiar & a little cryptic. Looking back now, those seem to have been related to this recent OKC Civil Court Opinion.

Those documents were formerly accessible on shepherdingwords.com but now they are missing from the site.

Link to letter #1: https://blendedbody.com/4LCD/Lettert...01-14-2021.pdf

Link to letter #2: https://blendedbody.com/4LCD/Followu...01-14-2021.pdf

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“The OKC-area elders assumed an authority that they did not have to deal with a fellow leading
one; if they felt that the matter needed adjudication, they should have referred it to leading co-workers who are qualified to exercise apostolic authority .(1 Tim. 5:19; CWWL, 1965, vol. 4, 189-190).”
This should tell everyone what these czars from Anahiem/LSM/DCP/North American blended bros coalition, think of themselves. These clueless fake apostles have ruined many churches, families, groups and people, and for anyone to want to refer to them in any matters should consider everything before the Lord before doing so. These men aren’t about caring for people, but about caring that their pride and “spiritual” authority is unquestionably followed.

They should just stop using the Bible as a guide completely, because you are doing a disservice to those who actually love the word of God. “Thus says Lee”, should be their calling card, because that’s all that’s there in those letters.
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From the letter:

This should tell everyone what these czars from Anaheim/LSM/DCP/North American blended bros coalition, think of themselves. These clueless fake apostles have ruined many churches, families, groups and people, and for anyone to want to refer to them in any matters should consider everything before the Lord before doing so. These men aren’t about caring for people, but about caring that their pride and “spiritual” authority is unquestionably followed.

They should just stop using the Bible as a guide completely, because you are doing a disservice to those who actually love the word of God. “Thus says Lee”, should be their calling card, because that’s all that’s there in those letters.
When WL had that Elders' Training in Feb 1986 stressing "one accord" and the demands to be "one with the ministry," destructive seeds were sown into all the Recovery leaders.
  • His words now superseded the Word of God
  • Oneness with WL now superseded obedience to the Lord
LSM will vehemently deny this, but we now have the rotten fruit of almost 40 years to prove this. I say pay no attention to their inexhaustible volume of words, but rather pay attention to what they do.


In this regard they are merely repeating so many of the errors we see:
  • With the Pharisees and Judaizers in the New Testament
  • With the Roman Papacy throughout the church age
  • With the Exclusive Brethren, supposedly their spiritual forebears
Paul said it best, "I say this to your shame, there is not even one among you, no one who is wise!" (I Cor 6.5)
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Old 12-27-2023, 04:09 PM   #4
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When WL had that Elders' Training in Feb 1986 stressing "one accord" and the demands to be "one with the ministry," destructive seeds were sown into all the Recovery leaders.


At this moment in time (1986), for the Lee Empire to successfully take power and to spread unhindered across the globe, it would require the development of a broad & loyal consensus among most church leaders. This is where the LC's powerhouse "Community Organizing Duo" - Ray Graver and Benson Phillips jumped in & began to wave their magic wand of undue influence. Similar to Aaron's goldsmith operation at the Mount Horeb base camp - into the LSM printing press went some holy paper & ink and then...surprise, surprise surprise - out popped a nice letter of loyalty to Lee & Co. with ample room for signatures....and this happened well before any leaders had a chance to fly back home unmolested.

If I am wrong about the timeline here please let me know.

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Old 12-28-2023, 01:01 PM   #5
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Paul said it best, "I say this to your shame, there is not even one among you, no one who is wise!" (I Cor 6.5)
Great verse Ohio!
Herein lies the basic problem with so-called leaders in the Lord's Recovery - they have been deliberately trained to become un-wise through the "ministry" of Nee & Lee. (see example below)
Neither of those opportunistic grifters (Nee & Lee) ever wanted their inner circle to be comprised of wise men. Instead these rascals carefully recruited/groomed compliant "ostrich men" who outwardly appeared & sounded quite spiritual, yet these same men could also be counted on to look the other way when the need arose.



Here is a link to the (shown above) chapter 3 in CWWN Vol 58.

And here is a link to Book 7 of the Elders Training which I mentioned in a previous post...

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Old 12-29-2023, 06:51 AM   #6
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I don’t see it, what’s it under?
“Pledge of Allegiance to Witness Lee” Thread

Moderators could you move these posts on the ministry to the “allegiance” thread since they mostly do not concern OK City?

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