Overview of LSM's Divisive Path

[Indiana]

AN OVERVIEW of LSM’s Divisive Path

The coworkers who composed the letter to the North American leaders with their "shepherding words", kept their record intact of not allowing pertinent true words to reach hungry truth seekers.

ShepherdingWords.com misguides, rather than shepherds the saints, in their aversion to the truth, saying that "rumors that have arisen over the years regarding the local churches and the ministry of God’s word through [Nee and Lee], are in the nature of myths (1 Tim. 1:4; 4:7; 2 Tim. 4:4), that is, narrative stories without factual basis."

This is vacuous speaking, and therefore worthless to truth seekers. These co-workers even say, “Some of these rumors were long ago disproven but still circulate today”. They do circulate BECAUSE they are not dealt with. Our brothers have no penchant for the truth, and simply defer to WL who also had the same penchant. There is no truth-telling among them and no renouncing of the hidden things of shame.


http://www.ourneedtoexamineourselves...visivePath.pdf

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by Indiana

ShepherdingWords.com misguides, rather than shepherds the saints, in their aversion to the truth, saying that "rumors that have arisen over the years regarding the local churches and the ministry of God’s word through [Nee and Lee], are in the nature of myths (1 Tim. 1:4; 4:7; 2 Tim. 4:4), that is, narrative stories without factual basis."

This is vacuous speaking, and therefore worthless to truth seekers. These co-workers even say, “Some of these rumors were long ago disproven but still circulate today”. They do circulate BECAUSE they are not dealt with. Our brothers have no penchant for the truth, and simply defer to WL who also had the same penchant. There is no truth-telling among them and no renouncing of the hidden things of shame.

I remember before I had read anything about the LC on the internet, I had been led to believe that it was all written by people who had no relation to the LC and were just making things up. I was surprised to learn that most of it is written by former members, and most of it addresses serious issues that necessitate a response from LC leadership.

One of the major things that the LSM/DCP/blendeds get wrong is that they characterize people's own experiences in the LC as being invalid or false. When you look closely at LC history, there have been numerous situations where people in the LC developed completely valid concerns. Daystar caused a mass exodus from the LC. Phillip Lee caused a mass exodus from the LC. If nothing else, both of those situations were certainly noteworthy in that they led to a massive loss of members.

The thing that's so outrageous about it all is that the new shepherdingwords.com site characterizes all these situations and the facts pertaining to them as "rumors" saying everything was "long ago disproven". If so, why wouldn't they have made at attempt at clarification when those situations were actually happening? Why wouldn't they have taken every opportunity to keep people from leaving? They never did that. And they didn't do that because the facts were the very reasons that people left. People didn't leave because of rumors. They left because of what actually happened.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Freedom

The thing that's so outrageous about it all is that the new shepherdingwords.com site characterizes all these situations and the facts pertaining to them as "rumors" saying everything was "long ago disproven". If so, why wouldn't they have made at attempt at clarification when those situations were actually happening? Why wouldn't they have taken every opportunity to keep people from leaving? They never did that. And they didn't do that because the facts were the very reasons that people left. People didn't leave because of rumors. They left because of what actually happened.

True. It's easy to say long ago disproven, when those who could prove it have either left, passed on, or take the path to "give mercy to the brothers" than to prove them at LSM to be in error.

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by Terry

True. It's easy to say long ago disproven, when those who could prove it have either left, passed on, or take the path to "give mercy to the brothers" than to prove them at LSM to be in error.

It seems like they think that if enough time has passed, the situations in question are no longer important. On the contrary, the longer these things have gone unaddressed, the more relevant they become.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Freedom

It seems like they think that if enough time has passed, the situations in question are no longer important. On the contrary, the longer these things have gone unaddressed, the more relevant they become.

Seems it should be that way, but coming from LSM it isn't so.

When Ron spoke in Ambato in 2006(?) , why did he have to allude to Bill Mallon? That had been nearly 20 years in the past.
In the months prior to Bill Freeman's passing, why did Ron need to allude to Bill Freeman? That had been 25 years?
Then this past year it was John Ingalls.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Freedom

It seems like they think that if enough time has passed, the situations in question are no longer important. On the contrary, the longer these things have gone unaddressed, the more relevant they become.

Before that "critical time" is reach, they refuse to talk about what happened.

Once that "critical time" is reached, then it's "old news we have already discussed."

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Before that "critical time" is reach, they refuse to talk about what happened.

Once that "critical time" is reached, then it's "old news we have already discussed."

Yes and I think that is exactly the issue that Steve Isitt ran into when he first started writing. Some of these issue have been out on the internet now for years, still never addressed by LC leadership. And they have the audacity to create a new site saying it's all just rumors.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Before that "critical time" is reach, they refuse to talk about what happened.

Once that "critical time" is reached, then it's "old news we have already discussed."

Kind of like Ukraine's political climate 2014-2016. Although in local church circles brothers act as if the final word had been given long time ago and to bring it up is either "ancient history" or it opens up old wounds thought resolved decades ago. When one controls the narrative, it's easy to direct or redirect what gets discussed and what doesn't get discussed.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Terry

Kind of like Ukraine's political climate 2014-2016. Although in local church circles brothers act as if the final word had been given long time ago and to bring it up is either "ancient history" or it opens up old wounds thought resolved decades ago. When one controls the narrative, it's easy to direct or redirect what gets discussed and what doesn't get discussed.

I had been thinking about the current political climate in relationship to local church history. In some manner the phrase ancient history has an updated terminology whether a discussion is sought on Daystar, Linko, morality issues, ethical issues, rebellions, quarantines, etc can really be referred as whataboutism. It's ancient history. Brothers control the narrative. Not open for discussion.

[Indiana]

Why does the comparatively new website called shepherdingwords.com keep feeding a wrong narrative to the full-timers and others in the Local Churches? They rightly desire to make a clear path for them; but wrongly follow the pattern in decades of leadership to sweep statements of facts under the rug and out of sight, and call it good. The following are not rumors or lies; but a part of the appalling record of leaders who are neither transparent nor accountable.

http://makingstraightthewayofthelord...opleChange.pdf


(Trouble is again brewing and for the same reasons that turmoil arises again and again in the Local Churches. THE LEADERS DO NOT LEARN FROM THE PAST. They are NOT accountable and they refuse to be transparent. This is their character and this is what you're dealing with.)