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Old 10-21-2020, 01:36 PM   #11
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Will be curious to know if/what the Lord says!

Genesis 2:16 - And the LORD God commanded him, “You may eat freely from every tree of the garden,

From God saying this, it seems to me that every tree was indeed good for food....if God Himself is saying they can eat from them all. He wouldn't tell anyone to eat from a tree that wasn't good for food!

Good for food....fit for food.....all of them mean you can eat it. God would never tell one of His children that something poisonous is good or fit for food and can be eaten.

Regarding the pleasing to look at versus good for food, Eve saw that the TOTKOGAE was both. The Bible doesn't record that that view of hers was wrong.

I won't push back too hard on the ingesting thing. I agree it does matter what we take into ourselves, although I usually think of it in terms of what we hear, read, watch, etc. if you want to take the metaphorical approach. I'm not saying it isn't important in general, but as far as everything the Bible says about this story in particular, including in Romans, the emphasis is consistently on the act, the offense, the disobedience, the sin, rather than the eating, the ingesting, the "taking in", etc. The main reason I'm not totally acquiescing here is because once we say there was anything wrong with the fruit of the TOTKOGAE is the nanosecond we give the grounds for the abusive teachings of "good is death/poison" or "knowledge is death/poison", etc. I know the potential for abuse of a teaching doesn't negate a teaching, but when the verses aren't there to back up that the ingesting of the fruit (aside from disobedience) was a problem, then we've got an unbiblical teaching that turns into an abusive teaching. And that riles me up!
Concerning the bolded above, I wonder about "may eat . . ." Sure, we may eat a lot of things, including things we shouldn't - as they did.

So if it was about just the disobedience, and wasn't about both the disobedience and the ingesting, then this means that everything happened because of the disobedience. That is, sin got into the flesh and corrupted man and death was brought in, only as a result of the disobedient act. Their very genes seemed to have changed and they passed this on to all generations of those in Adam #1, again, simply because they were disobedient.

It's easier for me to think that something got into them through what they ingested, that caused things to drastically change in them - from the perfect beings they were as created, into the monumental mess of a train wreck of flesh that resulted.
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