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[UntoHim]

Sons to Glory! Could you please point me to the verse that states that "calling on the Lord" means verbalizing "Oh Lord" or "Oh Lord Jesus".
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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Sons to Glory! Could you please point me to the verse that states that "calling on the Lord" means verbalizing "Oh Lord" or "Oh Lord Jesus".
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This is getting crazy.

SonsToGlory, why do you think the Lord's name is Jesus?

What were you thinking?

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Sons to Glory! Could you please point me to the verse that states that "calling on the Lord" means verbalizing "Oh Lord" or "Oh Lord Jesus".
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riiiiggghhttt, you see "calling" actually means to remain mute, to think about using your voice, and remaining silent.

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"on the Lord",.... actually does NOT mean saying "Oh Lord", neither, "Oh Lord Jesus" NO! You can never be saved that way. Calling on the name of the Lord actually means to think about a name that is not the Lord nor Jesus. And you cannot say "Oh", definately, those who say "Oh" will be condemned.

-- WL "...the New Testament is comprised of 27 books...."
-- Local Church Discussions fanatics....."heresy, it´s twenty seven books!!!!"

[Sons to Glory!]

Here's an article I'd like everyone's thoughts on, as it seems to encapsulate the argument at least somewhat: Acts 2:21 - Calling on the Lord's Name

And here's the passage of Stephen being stoned - he was crying out to the Lord in an audible voice: "While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, 'Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.' Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.'” Acts 7:59-60 I know this isn't regarding initial salvation, but wasn't he calling on His Savior . . . to save & forgive?

And isn't there a verse in Acts that says they found and persecuted Christians by those calling on the Lord? (I can't find this verse now - perhaps somebody can tell us where it is . . . unless I imagined it, then please correct me.)

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Here's an article I'd like everyone's thoughts on, as it seems to encapsulate the argument at least somewhat: Acts 2:21 - Calling on the Lord's Name

And here's the passage of Stephen being stoned - he was crying out to the Lord in an audible voice: "While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, 'Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.' Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.'” Acts 7:59-60 I know this isn't regarding initial salvation, but wasn't he calling on His Savior . . . to save & forgive?

And isn't there a verse in Acts that says they found and persecuted Christians by those calling on the Lord? (I can't find this verse now - perhaps somebody can tell us where it is . . . unless I imagined it, then please correct me.)

No, no, don´t you know that there was another Jesus, who was called Justus (Col. 4:11)?? Surely he was calling on that one.

[UntoHim]

Thanks for the article Sons to Glory! Unlike Witness Lee, this fellow actually lays out some scriptural references to back up his interpretations. Not sure how good a job he did, but at least he didn't just declare "This is what this means because I said so!".

Ok Raptor and Ohio, since I'm such a nice guy, I'll widen the playing field for you. Witness Lee claimed that he was "recovering" so many of the original teachings and practices of the New Testament. One of them was "calling on the Lord"...and not just any ole calling on the Lord...it was the recovery of verbalizing "Oh Lord Jesus". The louder the better. The more times the better.

Can you please point us to where any Christians have practiced this particular brand of calling on the Lord...verbalizing "Oh Lord Jesus"? You have about 2,000 years to sort through. Pick a year. Pick an era. Pick a place. Surely if this is a "recovered" practice then surely some other Christians have practiced this type of calling on the Lord by verbalizing "Oh Lord Jesus". And please spare us all the histrionics and false indignation. Simply point to a verse or verses or any written record of Christians practicing calling "Oh Lord Jesus" throughout history.
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[Raptor]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Thanks for the article Sons to Glory! Unlike Witness Lee, this fellow actually lays out some scriptural references to back up his interpretations. Not sure how good a job he did, but at least he didn't just declare "This is what this means because I said so!".

Ok Raptor and Ohio, since I'm such a nice guy, I'll widen the playing field for you. Witness Lee claimed that he was "recovering" so many of the original teachings and practices of the New Testament. One of them was "calling on the Lord"...and not just any ole calling on the Lord...it was the recovery of verbalizing "Oh Lord Jesus". The louder the better. The more times the better.

Can you please point us to where any Christians have practiced this particular brand of calling on the Lord...verbalizing "Oh Lord Jesus"? You have about 2,000 years to sort through. Pick a year. Pick an era. Pick a place. Surely if this is a "recovered" practice then surely some other Christians have practiced this type of calling on the Lord by verbalizing "Oh Lord Jesus".
And please spare us all the histrionics and false indignation. Simply point to a verse or verses or any written record of Christians practicing calling "Oh Lord Jesus" throughout history.
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Ok, if you are learning what "calling on the Lord" is, here is a good start:

https://www.gotquestions.org/call-up...-the-Lord.html

"To call on the name of the Lord is to invoke His proper name “in audible and social prayer and praise” (Albert Barnes)."

[UntoHim]

Very good article Raptor! The best one that I've ever seen.

Still looking for the "Oh Lord Jesus" though
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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Raptor and Ohio. Take a deep breath. Breath in. Breath out. There ya go!

Now, could you please show me the verse that says that "calling on the Lord" is "oh Lord" or "oh Lord Jesus"?

Oh, and if you don't want to be called a Witness Lee fanatic, then I suggest you don't call others Local Church Discussions fanatics. Understand?
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Bro, if you called me a "Witness Lee fanatic," all of my friends and family would laugh at you, "Huh, do you know who he is?"