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Old 05-16-2020, 08:18 AM   #1
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That's great, Ohio. I could imagine most feel the same way however the bible still teaches us to examine the fruit because even the most assured and confident can be deceived (Matt 7:22, 24:24). For this reason we are even exhorted to examine and test ourselves whether we are in the faith (2 Cor 13:5).
And that full verse in 2nd Corinthians reads, "Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?" I love that verse and share it with folks like JWs when the opportunity presents itself!

This is the test of tests . . . can you boldly declare that you know that you know that you know that Christ is in you?
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And that full verse in 2nd Corinthians reads, "Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?" I love that verse and share it with folks like JWs when the opportunity presents itself!

This is the test of tests . . . can you boldly declare that you know that you know that you know that Christ is in you?

Early in my walk when I fell into a season of mysticism, I would have emphatically told you I knew Christ yet while my lips honored God my heart was far away from Him. I wasn't grounded in a proper understanding of scripture and so I was easy target to seducing spirits.

Unfortunately, boldly declaring something to be so isn't a sufficient enough test.
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Early in my walk when I fell into a season of mysticism, I would have emphatically told you I knew Christ yet while my lips honored God my heart was far away from Him. I wasn't grounded in a proper understanding of scripture and so I was easy target to seducing spirits.

Unfortunately, boldly declaring something to be so isn't a sufficient enough test.
Do you know Christ is in you?
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Do you know Christ is in you?
Paul says there is more than one Christ preached among the churches (2 Cor 11:3-4)

With this knowledge the question shouldn't be, "Do you know Christ is in you?" it should be, "Do you know which Christ is in you?"
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Paul says there is more than one Christ preached among the churches (2 Cor 11:3-4)

With this knowledge the question shouldn't be, "Do you know Christ is in you?" it should be, "Do you know which Christ is in you?"
That sure seems like a dodge. So what did Paul ask? ". . . test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you?" He didn't ask "Which Christ is in you?"

You do not appear, for some reason, to want to answer this simple question . . .
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That sure seems like a dodge. So what did Paul ask? ". . . test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you?" He didn't ask "Which Christ is in you?"

You do not appear, for some reason, to want to answer this simple question . . .
Paul also said to examine yourselves "unless indeed you fail the test". So Paul is saying that we can indeed fail to be in the true faith.

With that said, it's not a dodge at all. You're asking a loaded question with the assumption that there is only one Christ.

If you are asking whether I know the "Christ" of the LC's, I already mentioned I do through my past flirting with mysticism.

If you are asking whether I know the Christ of scripture, then yes I do because I already know the counterfeit well enough.
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Paul also said to examine yourselves "unless indeed you fail the test". So Paul is saying that we can indeed fail to be in the true faith.

With that said, it's not a dodge at all. You're asking a loaded question with the assumption that there is only one Christ.

If you are asking whether I know the "Christ" of the LC's, I already mentioned I do through my past flirting with mysticism.

If you are asking whether I know the Christ of scripture, then yes I do because I already know the counterfeit well enough.
I'll see if someone else wants to respond to this, as it appears that perhaps we're not effectively communicating here . . .
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